Gun Control & RKBA

discntnt_irny_srcsm

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25. For the most part...

Sun May 27, 2012, 12:05 PM

May 2012

...the data in the Fatal Gaps report is accurate. This does not validate the MAIG group as correct in their views anymore than NRA membership would validate the views of Klan member.

I think the fact that California has shared 279,589 mental health records with the database and Oregon has shared 3 is indicative of "gap". Maybe CA is a bit too intrusive but I'd say it's clear that Oregon under reports.

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FBI Data Show Gun Background Checks Still Undermined [View all] Meiko May 2012 OP

Good post. And a good reason to restrict gun sales. The system is broken and dangerous people are Hoyt May 2012 #1

It would be wise to update the background check system as was supposed to happen ... spin May 2012 #3

So because the states don't obey the law I have to lose a civil liberty? hack89 May 2012 #6

Cry us a river. Adequate background checks and registries are all but impossible. Hoyt May 2012 #7

Your river is a bed of sand and you have no paddle. PavePusher May 2012 #10

Could you repeat that please? sarisataka May 2012 #14

Registries of people who should not be allowed around guns. Hoyt May 2012 #15

So the correct answer is to throw the baby out with the bathwater? sarisataka May 2012 #18

So you admit gun control is failure? You are finally getting it. nt hack89 May 2012 #23

"Gunsters"? Is that like "punsters", but of a different caliber? n/t PavePusher May 2012 #12

No, another poster used it and I like it. Hoyt May 2012 #16

Hoyt, you seem to like a lot of things.... PavePusher May 2012 #29

Cry us a river rl6214 May 2012 #20

Does the concept of FIXING features of our government that are broken have any meaning for you? slackmaster May 2012 #24

That would require actual effort... Clames May 2012 #30

Fabulous system you propose krispos42 May 2012 #34

It is a rare day sarisataka May 2012 #2

Updates and improvements... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #4

So where is all of this blood running in the streets? Tejas May 2012 #5

Where are all those supposed threats that cause you guys to carry? Hoyt May 2012 #8

But you've said elsewhere the world is full of problems. DanM May 2012 #9

Hoyt doesn't really do "logic". PavePusher May 2012 #11

You are 0 for 3 on this thread. Hoyt May 2012 #17

You are 0 for 950 in this Group. Clames May 2012 #31

But has Hoyt ever indicated that he understands that in order to influence... DanM May 2012 #22

Logic doesn't work with the right wing panderers to the gun lobby and supporters. Hoyt May 2012 #32

Don't you realize your target of persuasion isn't the right wing? DanM May 2012 #37

The NRA, TParty and the gun culture segment that uses guns to intimidate are right wingers. Hoyt May 2012 #38

What are the gun-rights people doing politically that gun-control folks can't do? DanM May 2012 #42

Exactly, right wingers have mobilized TBaggers, NRA types, etc., to pass right wing legislation that Hoyt May 2012 #43

So why is it impossible to mobilize Democrats to pass progressive gun control? hack89 May 2012 #52

You sure talk a lot about being intimidated by people with guns. Tejas May 2012 #75

You of course meant lies don't work... ileus May 2012 #39

If you don't know, just say "as usual, I have no clue". Tejas May 2012 #21

They are chasing down criminals. News Flash - you gun toters are not. Hoyt May 2012 #33

You are right SGMRTDARMY May 2012 #40

You can actually defend yourself without a gun, as the 96+% who do not carry prove every day. Hoyt May 2012 #45

Your right SGMRTDARMY May 2012 #46

So you leave home prepared to shoot some "young punk." How many times has that happened? Hoyt May 2012 #58

If a young punk physically assaults me or one of my family members SGMRTDARMY May 2012 #61

"Level headed?" How is that when you are worried about "young punks?" Hoyt May 2012 #62

Yep SGMRTDARMY May 2012 #63

How would you know about a "PPR'd female canadian"? Hugabear May 2012 #69

reading posts without registering. gejohnston May 2012 #70

Sure, but it's hilarious how common that explanation is here in the Gungeon Electric Monk May 2012 #71

Can't speak for anyone else gejohnston May 2012 #72

I've only been registered for a few days SGMRTDARMY May 2012 #77

Whhhaaa ---young punks-----whhhaaaa trumad May 2012 #73

I'm in my 60's and not in the best of health. SGMRTDARMY May 2012 #78

Hey, if it makes you feeeel better, then Tejas May 2012 #53

Unfortunately, your thing pollutes society with guns. Hoyt May 2012 #59

How odd, that's the same thing Joseph Stalin said. Tejas May 2012 #64

And don't forget Hitler. SGMRTDARMY May 2012 #65

I thought every gun owner was a threat? krispos42 May 2012 #35

Potentially they are. Non-toters are obviously much less likely to shoot innocents. Hoyt May 2012 #36

Again your right SGMRTDARMY May 2012 #41

Hopefully police are doing things that you aren't -- hopefully you are not police wannabe. Hoyt May 2012 #44

I am no police wannabe SGMRTDARMY May 2012 #47

Neither Zimmerman or Loughner had been arrested in their life. Doesn't mean much. Hoyt May 2012 #48

It's not a need, it's a choice that I consciously made many years ago. SGMRTDARMY May 2012 #49

More guns affect everyone -- but you don't seem to care about that. Hoyt May 2012 #50

How does more guns in the hands of honest citizens affect everyone? SGMRTDARMY May 2012 #51

YOU, and EVERY CCW, BETTER care what others think. That insular militant attitude, SHOULD disqualify WingDinger May 2012 #68

So you want the power to take my CCW hack89 May 2012 #76

What I better do is none of your business. SGMRTDARMY May 2012 #79

Who? Every damn person that sees themselves as Trayvon. WingDinger May 2012 #80

How will you know if I am armed? SGMRTDARMY May 2012 #81

YUP, just like on TV! Tejas May 2012 #74

re: "BTW, police shoot innocents many more times than CCW citizens." discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #57

Non-drivers are less likely to Tejas May 2012 #54

What a crock of shit. PavePusher May 2012 #13

Swearing and personal insults in all most every post safeinOhio May 2012 #28

Making psychological diagnoses based on internet forum posts.... Callisto32 May 2012 #55

thank you for your opinion. safeinOhio May 2012 #56

"Swearing and personal insults in all most every post may indicate a person with rl6214 May 2012 #66

Perhaps it would be a good idea safeinOhio May 2012 #67

Source: Mayors against illegal guns? rl6214 May 2012 #19

For the most part... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #25

how many people are gejohnston May 2012 #26

"Maybe that is all there is in Oregon." discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #27

From the FBI site: discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #60