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16. Why KGO was blown up
Fri Dec 16, 2011, 01:15 PM
Dec 2011

The reason wasn't politics. It was something called PPM, as in Portable People Meter. This is a new method Arbitron uses for measuring listenership to stations. With the debut of PPM in the market a few years ago, KGO's ratings went down, while the ratings for all-news KCBS and public broadcaster KQED (now the #1 station in the Bay Area) went up. Essentially, KGO and its new owners are trying to compete with those two stations.

Blowing up KGO as extremely as Cumulus did wasn't a very bright idea. For one, there's no way they can compete with what KCBS does. Second, Cumulus likes to run things on the cheap, and that won't work with an expensive format like all-news.

All-news seems to be the latest du jour format. Doesn't skew as old as talk, gets high ratings and brings in lots of money from respectable advertisers (as opposed to partisan political talk). Just this year, upstart Merlin Media launched FM news stations in New York and Chicago (and got promptly and rightfully laughed at), Radio One, of all companies, launched one in Houston which has gotten decent reviews, and CBS launched a WBBM simulcast in Chicago, with a new station to launch in Washington, DC next month. And Merlin might launch another all-news station in Philly sometime next year.

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Progressive AM Radio [View all] SHRED Dec 2011 OP
I doubt it. ProfessionalLeftist Dec 2011 #1
Not a conspiracy... kwikset Dec 2011 #2
It is indeed a green eyeshade business ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2011 #4
you mean in a country that voted overwhelmingly for obama 95% want limbaugh? certainot Dec 2011 #6
You confuse talk radio listeners with the electorate ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2011 #7
i recognize the difference but his 'popularity' is not a reflection of the 'market' certainot Dec 2011 #8
Independent radio station owners I know would disagree with you ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2011 #9
that was a political move, getting ready for the elections. and plenty of progressives are making $ certainot Dec 2011 #10
You have still not answered the economics for the stations ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2011 #12
so you're saying 95% of talk radio listeners are racist idiots who like blowhards who've been wrong certainot Dec 2011 #14
Why KGO was blown up LTR Dec 2011 #16
i'm not very familiar with the KGO situation except that is looks like they replaced some certainot Dec 2011 #18
PS limbaugh IS the republican party so he is going to get that in any location. certainot Dec 2011 #11
+10 shcrane71 Mar 2012 #22
i don't think you're right on that first sentence. certainot Dec 2011 #5
"...they subsidized it to start it..." Jenoch Feb 2013 #28
I disagree in the case of 1360 KLSD in San Diego SHRED Dec 2011 #13
But was the bottom line better? ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2011 #17
Here is my take on the situation mrdmk Dec 2011 #3
Clear Channel's always been about money more than politics LTR Dec 2011 #15
if that was the case 95% of talk radio wouldn't be right wing certainot Dec 2011 #19
if that was the case 95% of talk radio wouldn't be right wing certainot Dec 2011 #20
" the profit driven market argument makes no sense- it's an excuse that's used all the time to shcrane71 Mar 2012 #23
no-holds-barred mike malloy just pointed out they're under assault, need funding, sponsorship certainot Mar 2012 #21
But we have progressive radio in our area. occupy this. Mar 2012 #24
Is that on the AM dial? Where do you live? shcrane71 Mar 2012 #25
Detroit Progressive Talk Radio WDTW GONE! Downriver Doc Jan 2013 #26
Ick - freerepublic! Here's a better source... cyberswede Jan 2013 #27
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