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One item to note: trotsky Dec 2014 #1
Did you make the same objections to this post? TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author cleanhippie Dec 2014 #7
Why should I? It's not written by a DUer, or specifically addressing DU theists. trotsky Dec 2014 #9
One could assume that mr blur was in agreement with what he posted. TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #10
One could assume that? Really? trotsky Dec 2014 #13
Not angry, it was just a PSA receive it if you want or not. TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #50
I love the post, TexasProgressive. I hate broad brush roguevalley Dec 2014 #129
The post you love WAS a broad brush. trotsky Dec 2014 #132
One could, but one would be wrong. mr blur Dec 2014 #77
Well no, I do not know as you did not TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #82
'If you are only speaking for yourself, you should change the pronouns from "we" to "I." ' rug Dec 2014 #24
seemed like just MFM008 Dec 2014 #139
Hostile and combative is his MO. cleanhippie Dec 2014 #140
Lol! rug Dec 2014 #146
Says the guy who calls Mary a rape victim. LOL Starboard Tack Dec 2014 #272
That's not hostility, it's an observation of a double standard. rug Dec 2014 #145
Why didn't you say that to the OP? Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #190
Because the OP didn't say that. rug Dec 2014 #194
OP didn't say "we" Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #196
Well, WRT point #9 in March 2013 Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2014 #90
Sorry FA, you completely nuked any credibility you might have had. trotsky Dec 2014 #91
Translation: I am mot going to respond, and it's your fault I won't Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2014 #100
Thank you for posting this! hrmjustin Dec 2014 #2
Well done. I think that the great majority of atheists already know much of what you are saying. cbayer Dec 2014 #3
"Religion isn't going anywhere." False. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #66
Has any atheist on DU made statements or claim contrary to what you posted? cleanhippie Dec 2014 #5
see post 4 TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #6
I hadn't seen it yet, and that post is not a DU'er posting about themselves, its an article. cleanhippie Dec 2014 #8
See response 9 TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #11
Has any atheist on DU made statements or claim contrary to what you posted? cleanhippie Dec 2014 #12
Pretty simple question to answer, I thought. trotsky Dec 2014 #14
It's really weird. He is going to great lengths to avoid answering a simple question cleanhippie Dec 2014 #19
Exactly. Why wish for something you already have? trotsky Dec 2014 #20
What don't you understand about wishes? TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #16
You charged ALL DU atheists with not knowing the things you posted. cleanhippie Dec 2014 #18
Yes you have. Leontius Dec 2014 #128
Incoherence seems to be your stong point. cleanhippie Dec 2014 #131
What don't you understand about Hamlet? mr blur Dec 2014 #39
This is lame. If you are going to post an op don't defend it with "see response x". Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #23
What percentage do you say have? rug Dec 2014 #25
I can't say. can you? cleanhippie Dec 2014 #34
Do you say most or less than most? rug Dec 2014 #37
I answered your question. Kindly answer mine. cleanhippie Dec 2014 #38
Actually, you said you can't say. rug Dec 2014 #81
Do you have any actual proof for your claim that most 'theists' are not homophobic? World events Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #15
Perhaps you didn't read where I was referring to DU theist TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #17
who has claimed all theists are homophobic? that is a strawman. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #22
Looks like #15 is implyimg most are. Do you agree with that? rug Dec 2014 #26
Depends on context, I would say worldwide, most people, theist or atheist are homophobic... Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #30
So, you believe most theists outside "the West" are homophobic? rug Dec 2014 #35
Yes, but not just theists, atheists as well, yes, and yes. Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #118
Then that would be cultural, would it not? rug Dec 2014 #147
In some cases yes, in others no, and most are a mix... Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #185
In fairness, the only person I've seen here openly spouting homophobic talking points AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #69
Thank you for posting that TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #72
That said, the poster in question is constantly interposing himself between theists and atheists AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #78
keep going, you're on a roll Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #273
The adults in the room know a right-wing anti-same-sex marriage talking point when they hear one. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #274
Except that is not what I am saying, and you know it. Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #275
Math is hard. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #277
LARED and humblebum are PPRed former DUers... trotsky Dec 2014 #98
Thanks for posting. i did not know why they were banned. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #99
there was at least one theist here who agreed that his beliefs included LGBT people Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #124
I disagree Lordquinton Dec 2014 #178
Good point. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #276
Oh wow, and people wonder why we consider relgious faith self-delusion. That 'mother' was well AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #281
There are far more progressive theists then you realize? Where, here on DU? Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #21
From some of your past posts, Warren TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #28
I don't think King was either lying or stupid, I think he was a smart person who both Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #59
Using the rhetoric of belief to further and agenda is lying. TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #70
uh no it isn't. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #71
Either Dr. King knew what he was doing TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #80
No I've already said that I think King was a believer and that he also Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #88
That would be an abuse of belief. TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #96
So you are claiming that anyone promoting progressive values using the rhetoric Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #117
Thanks for the work Texas. Ink Man Dec 2014 #158
Gracias, Ink Man TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #173
Still waiting, Warren, stupid or lying, which is it? TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #33
Has any atheist on DU made statements or claim contrary to what you posted? cleanhippie Dec 2014 #36
Are you, Warren? If so answer the question, stupid or lying. TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #40
You answer the question. Has any atheist on DU made statements or claim contrary to what you posted? cleanhippie Dec 2014 #42
Yes cleanhippie is warren. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #62
No, *I'M* Spartacus! AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #75
Invalid bifurcation fallacy is invalid. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #74
From what Warren posted in the previous thread TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #86
First of all - it was not my article, I reposted it. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #116
intellectually naive or dishonest. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #56
Apparently, Warren, you have not read my posts on LGBTQMOUSE rights and reproductive rights Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2014 #102
Apparently you think I said "all". Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #112
Why would Warren care about how you feel about LGBTQ rodents? DeadLetterOffice Dec 2014 #150
your statement number one may apply to theists on du, but it certainly does NOT apply to niyad Dec 2014 #27
Never said it did - this is in reference to theist at DU-and not the inevitable troll TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Dec 2014 #29
If any DU theist is offended by the we let them post. TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #32
The only thing offensive about your post is it's blatant dishonesty. cleanhippie Dec 2014 #41
This is a great thread Texas! hrmjustin Dec 2014 #43
The only nerve here is the nerve to post blatantly dishonest diatribes. cleanhippie Dec 2014 #45
Perception and where that leads, both here on DU and in society at large, are key, imo. pinto Dec 2014 #44
Thank you, pinto. TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #46
Has any atheist on DU made statements or claim contrary to what you posted? cleanhippie Dec 2014 #48
Nice sentiments, but has nothing to with the assertions the OP makes. cleanhippie Dec 2014 #47
If the shoe fits, cleanhippie, wear it. TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #49
So am I to assume that any time an atheist says something about a theist... trotsky Dec 2014 #51
It appears that you are the one on the offensive. TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #53
Actually, he's asking for more information. Not a retraction jeff47 Dec 2014 #60
Yeah, imagine that. trotsky Dec 2014 #68
The only shoes are the ones on YOUR feet. You make blatantly false accusations then blame cleanhippie Dec 2014 #52
Can't speak for the poster. The OP spurred some general issues for me, wanted to comment from there. pinto Dec 2014 #55
So you want atheists to not use a broad brush, yet you use a massively broad brush jeff47 Dec 2014 #54
Do you think that if he had worded this differently, it might have gotten a different reaction. cbayer Dec 2014 #85
"From what I know of this member, he is responding to that." trotsky Dec 2014 #92
I think he's passive-agressively attacking. jeff47 Dec 2014 #101
I am reading this from my own unique perspective and not cbayer Dec 2014 #103
I agree with your statement. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #104
But he has definitely triggered a strong response in this member who is not a regular, cbayer Dec 2014 #109
Well i think it is good to explore his views. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #110
Not posting often does not mean not a regular. (nt) jeff47 Dec 2014 #114
True, but I understood what justin meant by regular. cbayer Dec 2014 #120
Thanks for that...Jeff haikugal Dec 2014 #266
If the great majority don't believe in the list, why make it? jeff47 Dec 2014 #106
I think you have a point about who this should be addressed to. cbayer Dec 2014 #111
Under God. jeff47 Dec 2014 #113
The survey that you are citing about the pledge is from 2004. cbayer Dec 2014 #125
I'm supposed to be buoyed by 77% becoming 79%? jeff47 Dec 2014 #130
Sorry, you are making the point of the OP and it is becoming increasingly clear to me why cbayer Dec 2014 #137
!!! trotsky Dec 2014 #141
It's as if she is totally unable to see herself in her own words. cleanhippie Dec 2014 #142
Nope, but good job trying to steer it that way jeff47 Dec 2014 #197
I don't recall having had a chat with you before. cbayer Dec 2014 #199
One of the things about having a sig is it makes you more memorable. jeff47 Dec 2014 #221
Sorry, I can't deal with the block quotes anymore. cbayer Dec 2014 #224
How DARE I make it clear what I'm responding to. jeff47 Dec 2014 #268
It's annoying and not conducive to conversation. cbayer Dec 2014 #269
I wanted to look more closely at the two surveys we are discussing cbayer Dec 2014 #144
cbayer, one of your favorite sayings has been the old... trotsky Dec 2014 #115
Damn that's a succinct summary of the 10 points. trotsky Dec 2014 #105
/hat tip (nt) jeff47 Dec 2014 #107
I will tell you what bothers me here. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #57
How 'bout when they don't know the answer? jeff47 Dec 2014 #63
I wasn't talking about you. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #64
No, you were talking about the horrors of repeatedly asking questions. jeff47 Dec 2014 #76
You try having the same questions about why you pray by the same people here. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #79
You think I haven't? jeff47 Dec 2014 #84
I am just not answering certain posters right now because it is tense in this room. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #89
"I am sick and tired of being abused here". Puh-LEASE! cleanhippie Dec 2014 #97
It is very clear. Justin wants to say "I prayed" Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #168
No I just don't think I need to be asked this question all the time when you know the answer. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #169
Then you know what? Don't mention your prayer activity on a discussion board, Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #172
Prayer is part of religion so you shouldn't tell him not to mebntion it in here. rug Dec 2014 #174
I will mention what I like just like you will. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #175
Yeah we know, we've seen the way you run that other place. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #119
interfaith will never be this room nor will the hosts ever allow it. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #121
I thought you were out of this thread due to all the abuse. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #122
no you thought wrong. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #123
So when you said that you were lying? cleanhippie Dec 2014 #133
That's because this isn't an echo chamber like interfaith. cleanhippie Dec 2014 #134
Oh, you have no problems at all with echo chambers. You just don't like those echoes. rug Dec 2014 #152
Lol, and "we've" seen how you run that other place. rug Dec 2014 #154
As an "Athiest at DU" I have to say that I didn't know that I didn't know these things corkhead Dec 2014 #58
Well, we apparently are utter morons completely incapable of understanding nuance jeff47 Dec 2014 #67
"But hey, apparently that's part of not viewing atheists as enemies." trotsky Dec 2014 #73
Who is 'we'? AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #61
We is DU theists- haven't seen any disagreement from them yet. TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #83
As one who is more agnostic than anything else lark Dec 2014 #65
Starting at the top LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #87
Well put, LostOne4Ever. trotsky Dec 2014 #93
+1000! The best part of your post is " Has anyone here on DU done that?" cleanhippie Dec 2014 #94
Excellent rebuttal. Curmudgeoness Dec 2014 #108
So when believers here do speak out, will you support them and give them credit? cbayer Dec 2014 #126
I certainly do hope that believers and non-believers can stand together Curmudgeoness Dec 2014 #143
OK, well the change starts at home cbayer Dec 2014 #148
Is the lecture over now? Curmudgeoness Dec 2014 #167
If you want the "lecture" to be over, then all you have to do is stop responding. cbayer Dec 2014 #170
The lecture will never be over. PassingFair Jan 2015 #282
Ah, that's so nice of you. I am not one to give up, that's for sure. cbayer Jan 2015 #283
Really? All of us are afraid to stand up to right-wing Christians? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #127
Some atheists are unable to understand the difference between personal faith and belief Maedhros Dec 2014 #138
I actually think Dorian Gray Dec 2014 #187
Great job! Kevin from WI Dec 2014 #179
I wish you would provide evidence to support your assertions about DU atheists. cleanhippie Dec 2014 #95
Do you presume that people only have arguments with people they consider bad people? Silent3 Dec 2014 #135
I challenge those who have rec'ed this post to show examples of DU atheists doing ANY cleanhippie Dec 2014 #136
Start here. The thread is still young. rug Dec 2014 #149
Still stalking groups your banned from, huh? cleanhippie Dec 2014 #155
Lol! What's sad is that thread. rug Dec 2014 #156
You've done it repeatedly. Leontius Dec 2014 #151
Where? Saying so is one thing, and easy. cleanhippie Dec 2014 #153
"adherents" rug Dec 2014 #157
I don't know which is more disturbing, that you have so many of my posts bookmarked cleanhippie Dec 2014 #159
They're not bookmarked, a simple DU search. rug Dec 2014 #171
I do have to say the flying spaghetti monster posts do bother me a bit. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #160
Me too LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #161
I prefer regular spaghetti to thin myself. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #162
So long as it is a good marinara I am happy LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #163
Had ravioli myself tonight. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #164
Lucky you LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #165
The bread is a killer for calories. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #166
Are you a christian? Kevin from WI Dec 2014 #176
I am a Christian and believe some of the bible literally. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #177
I am curious why only some and not all of the bible literally? Kevin from WI Dec 2014 #180
I believe the bible is divinely inspired but not the literal word of God. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #181
If the bible is devinely inspired, should we use it to determine matters of law? Kevin from WI Dec 2014 #182
I believe in the seperation of church and state. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #183
Nice. But, the idea is to keep the religious from DU and Dems. Festivito Dec 2014 #184
Found your list uninformative. Jappleseed Dec 2014 #186
I wish the atheists at DU weren't so aggressive Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #188
I wish the exact same thing about believers at DU. trotsky Dec 2014 #189
Fair point Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #191
I don't think the atheists of DU are aggressive. cbayer Dec 2014 #192
Yes, the aggressiveness of some of the atheists in this room does take me back at times. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #193
And some of the theists here are extremely aggressive and insulting toward non-believers. mr blur Dec 2014 #213
Yes, some are Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #218
The fact that this even needs to be said tells you how bad things have gotten here. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #195
Yes, being asked uncomfortable questions on a message board is exactly like getting fired. jeff47 Dec 2014 #198
I am gay so don't pull that on me. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #200
Your responses don't bother me. Why ignore them? jeff47 Dec 2014 #201
Do you read this forum often? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #204
Semi-regularly. Not frequently enough to be familiar with anyone jeff47 Dec 2014 #205
Oh, ouch! Somebody get me a band-aid! cbayer Dec 2014 #207
Guess what? It's not about you. jeff47 Dec 2014 #212
Oops! Wrong assumption on my part. cbayer Dec 2014 #215
Well i as a regular can tell you that I am sick and tired of taking the bait from some members hrmjustin Dec 2014 #208
K, now imagine the questions are from your boss instead. jeff47 Dec 2014 #211
I have no doubt that you and the other atheists of this board are discriminated against irl. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #217
DU exists within real life. Real life is why we are here jeff47 Dec 2014 #222
i am sick of; hrmjustin Dec 2014 #227
I am sorry you feel that way. I really am. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #231
I live in NYC. I know more atheists than I know believers. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #233
There will always be trolls who violate safe havens LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #239
There is different opinions as to whether it needs to be changed. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #241
It is interesting that you use the word irreligious. cbayer Dec 2014 #244
Maybe LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #245
The name could be changed and the group moved out of religion & spirituality. cbayer Dec 2014 #246
Me? LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #248
Irreligion LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #247
I figured that you meant it more generally, but I found it interesting because of the cbayer Dec 2014 #250
Well I think that I am in a certain position LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #252
Being blocked from the group is clearly painful for you. cbayer Dec 2014 #255
A question. And I'm not even getting into the AA block--I promise. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #256
An answer. And I'm not even getting into your interfaith block - I promise. cbayer Dec 2014 #260
Must hit pretty close to home, then. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #261
Yeah, that's right. You really got me that time. cbayer Dec 2014 #263
I deleted those posts after LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #264
So, my point is that you have had a rocky relationship with the group, that's all. cbayer Dec 2014 #267
No, Atheists and Agnostics is fine Lordquinton Dec 2014 #249
Are you again calling me an anti-atheist? cbayer Dec 2014 #251
Your GLBT analogy is completely wrong. cbayer Dec 2014 #202
Again, majority status in one enclave does not confer majority privileges everywhere. jeff47 Dec 2014 #203
Of course it doesn't. But this conversation is about this enclave. cbayer Dec 2014 #206
No, you would like to restrict the conversation to this enclave jeff47 Dec 2014 #216
Again telling me what I want and what I am most comfortable with. cbayer Dec 2014 #220
This conversation is about this board and room. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #209
And that board and room exist within a larger place. jeff47 Dec 2014 #214
This room is not a safe haven as was the appropriate room to post this in. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #219
Even safe havens exist within the larger context. jeff47 Dec 2014 #226
The point is this post was not about real life and your trying to make it. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #229
Well said, justin. cbayer Dec 2014 #230
Thank you. It was becoming clear what was happening. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #232
The remedy I have chosen is very effective. cbayer Dec 2014 #235
What really bothers me here is that so many here rose up to yell about this post and gave hrmjustin Dec 2014 #236
I don't see a lot of yelling, but that is because of my "chosen remedy". cbayer Dec 2014 #237
Agreed! it has to stick now or they won't stop. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #238
In general when people who desperately want your attention are ignored, they will up the ante. cbayer Dec 2014 #240
Yes this is true. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #242
Maybe approach it like a 12 step program, lol. cbayer Dec 2014 #243
Your analogy is again completely wrong. cbayer Dec 2014 #223
Again, you're attempting to claim this room is it's own universe. It isn't. jeff47 Dec 2014 #225
One last thing. cbayer Dec 2014 #234
Size-13 Kick! riqster Dec 2014 #210
"Not all theists..." Iggo Dec 2014 #228
Wow! A call for a cease-fire is seen as a new opening shot... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #253
Let me ask you something, TB, since you seem like a reasonable person. trotsky Dec 2014 #254
I wouldn't have a problem with that... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #257
Really. Alright then. trotsky Dec 2014 #258
That is hardly the point... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #259
"in the course of a general debate" trotsky Dec 2014 #265
Back to the point... TreasonousBastard Jan 2015 #278
Have I not made myself clear enough? trotsky Jan 2015 #285
You've made yourself perfectly clear that... TreasonousBastard Jan 2015 #287
Oh FFS. trotsky Jan 2015 #296
I'm afraid that your impression seems to be mistaken mr blur Dec 2014 #270
What I think you really are would get the post hidden, but... TreasonousBastard Jan 2015 #279
What a heap of false equivalency. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #280
What a heap of misreading... TreasonousBastard Jan 2015 #284
"Both sides are working on blind faith, but neither side will admit it and they fight over who is th AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #286
See, here's why we have problems... TreasonousBastard Jan 2015 #288
Your meaning is perfectly clear. And that's a pathetic backpedal from what you wrote. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #289
I did not say "disbelief" I said... TreasonousBastard Jan 2015 #290
That's not what you said in 279. Let me refresh your memory. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #291
I did not. Now bugger off. TreasonousBastard Jan 2015 #292
As I said, pathetic backpedal. Not surprised it didn't lead anywhere. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #293
Looks like he made your point. rug Jan 2015 #294
To me the reality of this group is this... goldent Dec 2014 #262
This is not unusual. Going back to Usenet days... TreasonousBastard Jan 2015 #306
Well you can always end any discussion with "bugger off". Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #299
How in your opinion does religious privilege manifest itself on DU? hrmjustin Jan 2015 #300
This should be good. rug Jan 2015 #301
Well Justin, you claiming that you were being Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #307
Thats bull! my complaint was being asked the same question over and over again by the same hrmjustin Jan 2015 #308
So you agree that you post things on a forum and declare yourself "abused" by having people ask Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #311
Since you are not going to answer my question I am done. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #312
No it isn't. rug Jan 2015 #310
I am far from a victim, and if... TreasonousBastard Jan 2015 #304
So in light of that statement... trotsky Jan 2015 #309
Beautiful post. Starboard Tack Dec 2014 #271
Whatever happened to your alternative forum for you and all those other good atheists? Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #295
It's on the Libertarian Underground forum JDDavis Jan 2015 #297
Oh, so sorry. I guess we forgot to invite you Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #313
But surely with the many atheists here who agree with you... Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #314
But we meet in secret, didn't you know? Though many of us did rec this OP. Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #315
And still no Good Atheists Forum here on DU. Seems odd. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #316
This thread went pretty much as I expected. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #298
That's nothing compared to the apoplexy after posting a Dawkins tweet. rug Jan 2015 #302
The poor guy is misunderstood! hrmjustin Jan 2015 #303
Can't blame him. He's had such an underprivileged life. rug Jan 2015 #305
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