It would save a lot of time if he just numbered his responses (Reply #214)

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Mon May 14, 2018, 12:34 PM

214. It would save a lot of time if he just numbered his responses

#1 You have convinced yourself

#2 Name calling!

#3 11th Commandment

#4 You avoided/missed my point

#5 Semiotics

#6 Nice try

#7 Ubiquitous Whataboutism

#8 I'm rubber, you're glue

If you have any others, feel free to add them and I'll amend this post. That way we have a handy reference guide that puts everyone on the same page. Eventually there will be no need for him to post anything more than a number in response to anything. Imagine the increase in posting efficiency.

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236 replies	Author	Time	Post
Deism. What it is, and what it is not. [View all]	guillaumeb	May 2018	OP
'The term is used chiefly of an intellectual movement of the 17th and 18th centuries	elleng	May 2018	#1
True. And I feel that many theists accept that view. eom	guillaumeb	May 2018	#5
Speculation	Lordquinton	May 2018	#26
Of course. And I framed it as an opinion.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#32
It's still mere speculation	Lordquinton	May 2018	#45
Some could have been atheists	Eko	May 2018	#2
Speculation.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#7
Maybe, maybe not.	Eko	May 2018	#18
He seems to have opposed the negative aspects of the institution.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#20
I dont know. This one is pretty strong.	Eko	May 2018	#22
Jefferson also wrote that each generation needs a revolution.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#29
What does that have to do with religion?	Lordquinton	May 2018	#46
It has to do with Jefferson and his views.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#65
So it's a non-sequitur meant to distract from the topic	Lordquinton	May 2018	#76
You seem confused.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#108
No, you're just trying to cover for yourself	Lordquinton	May 2018	#128
Congratulations on convincing yourself.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#136
Wow, a stock answer with less than zero substance	Lordquinton	May 2018	#142
Amazingly enough, I thought the same about your response.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#145
And again distracting from the topic at hand	Lordquinton	May 2018	#151
And again, missing the point.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#154
Did you even read what I wrote?	Lordquinton	May 2018	#169
You're missing the point	Major Nikon	May 2018	#182
It's a good thing I'm used to these responces	Lordquinton	May 2018	#190
As predictable as a broken record	Major Nikon	May 2018	#183
Oh my...	Lordquinton	May 2018	#191
A choir of one, apparently.	trotsky	May 2018	#202
There's always the fan club	Major Nikon	May 2018	#203
Update	Lordquinton	May 2018	#213
It would save a lot of time if he just numbered his responses	Major Nikon	May 2018	#214
I think you missed...	NeoGreen	May 2018	#215
I'm going to have to combine some of them	Major Nikon	May 2018	#216
how about delineated variations...	NeoGreen	May 2018	#217
That would save a lot of time	Lordquinton	May 2018	#218
Someone should open a thread on it	Major Nikon	May 2018	#219
Perhaps when more time is available	Lordquinton	May 2018	#220
Did he really say that? dont think so.	Eko	May 2018	#164
There you go with your reality again	Major Nikon	May 2018	#184
Sorry Mr Major Sir!	Eko	May 2018	#185
You need to put yourself on report	Major Nikon	May 2018	#186
I think it might have been the 12th.	Eko	May 2018	#189
That's fully covered by the 11th	Major Nikon	May 2018	#194
Shucks.	Eko	May 2018	#195
Does that say how it relates to his views on religion?	Lordquinton	May 2018	#192
I think I could answer that,	Eko	May 2018	#196
Taking it far away from the topic at hand	Lordquinton	May 2018	#197
ah, Guillaumeb is a ally.	Eko	May 2018	#198
guillaumeb	saidsimplesimon	May 2018	#178
I do find it interesting that	Eko	May 2018	#231
Sometimes I wish that Jefferson favored the period	lordsummerisle	May 2018	#177
He didnt say that also.	Eko	May 2018	#168
This doesn't sound like opposition to the negative aspects of the institution.	Eko	May 2018	#170
So where were the atheists of the 17th and 18th centuries?	Major Nikon	May 2018	#23
A good question.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#30
And you are certainly entitled to that opinion	Major Nikon	May 2018	#38
Unfamiliarity with the concept?	guillaumeb	May 2018	#64
Not an answer	Major Nikon	May 2018	#81
I was referring to your question, and a possible reason	guillaumeb	May 2018	#109
Understanding the difference seems to be the best reason. YMMV.	Major Nikon	May 2018	#121
Revelation is an interesting subject.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#132
They also do	Major Nikon	May 2018	#138
You well demonstrate what you attack.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#144
My first line matter of factly answers the question you posed yourself.	Major Nikon	May 2018	#153
You have convinced yourself.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#155
I can't take all the credit	Major Nikon	May 2018	#157
Yes, you can.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#159
No need to be so modest	Major Nikon	May 2018	#162
Speaking of debates, this one was a bit bizarre.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#163
You post this immediately after your diversion remark?	Major Nikon	May 2018	#173
Are you welcoming me from "mansplaining" world?	guillaumeb	May 2018	#209
Won the debate with you as well	Lordquinton	May 2018	#193
Some arguments are self-defeating	Major Nikon	May 2018	#212
Actually the term "atheist" was used by Greeks and Romans to refer to early Christians.	malchickiwick	May 2018	#52
The term was also used differently in the 17th and 18th centuries by freethinkers	Major Nikon	May 2018	#53
Do you think "creator" and "god" are interchangeable?	Major Nikon	May 2018	#44
So, are you a deist?	MineralMan	May 2018	#3
I am a theist first,	guillaumeb	May 2018	#8
So, then, you are not a Christian?	MineralMan	May 2018	#10
I see no problem with being a Christian and a deist.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#12
OK, then...	MineralMan	May 2018	#14
Was this Jesus person a god?	Voltaire2	May 2018	#49
I agree with the American Friends that each person has a fragment of the divine.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#66
That is not an answer.	Voltaire2	May 2018	#71
If all humans are a part of the Creator,	guillaumeb	May 2018	#106
Nope. Still haven't answered.	Voltaire2	May 2018	#114
I did answer, but not as you wanted.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#120
I understood it perfectly	Major Nikon	May 2018	#176
So you think you're a god?	Lordquinton	May 2018	#129
You sound confused.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#137
Again, not in the slightest	Lordquinton	May 2018	#146
Definitely confused.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#148
You talking about yourself?	Lordquinton	May 2018	#167
Sometimes a non-answer provides far more information	Major Nikon	May 2018	#179
multiply this by a hundred	Lordquinton	May 2018	#188
"the message of Jesus"	trotsky	May 2018	#204
Still confused?	guillaumeb	May 2018	#211
Gaslighting. n/t	trotsky	May 2018	#221
Does that not make you an atheist?	Major Nikon	May 2018	#59
Are you working on some sort of routine?	guillaumeb	May 2018	#70
Come on Gil, don't project.	Mariana	May 2018	#74
Just questioning how much or little you know about the subject matter	Major Nikon	May 2018	#83
As are mine of you.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#110
Sorry I didn't mention it before, but thanks for utterly disproving your argument	Major Nikon	May 2018	#124
Thank you for confirming my suspicion.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#135
I am, thanks for noticing.	Major Nikon	May 2018	#139
Preceded my agnostic 'belief,'	elleng	May 2018	#4
My opinion is that this described George LeMaitre as well.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#9
Who was a theist and decidedly not a deist	Major Nikon	May 2018	#84
Sarcasm and insult are not substitutes for insight.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#111
You stole my line!	Major Nikon	May 2018	#123
Depends on what they meant by "placeholder"	marylandblue	May 2018	#6
After reading the response, and replying to it,	guillaumeb	May 2018	#11
You never actually asked that question	marylandblue	May 2018	#13
I disagree.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#15
I have no dog in this fight	marylandblue	May 2018	#19
I accept that about you.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#21
The best part is his own source says virtually the exact same thing	Major Nikon	May 2018	#42
Ouch.	trotsky	May 2018	#205
Disagree all you want. The facts tell a different story.	Major Nikon	May 2018	#41
If you refrained from insults and attack,	guillaumeb	May 2018	#115
The facts tell a different story	Major Nikon	May 2018	#122
Your responses are very harmonious.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#134
Whatever that means	Major Nikon	May 2018	#140
It was his choir insult. It should be on the list.	Voltaire2	May 2018	#223
Sounds more like a sock allegation	Major Nikon	May 2018	#224
Could be that too.	Voltaire2	May 2018	#225
I'm sure at this point he would love nothing more than to see this thread fall off the first page.	trotsky	May 2018	#228
Yes. We are supposed to sing in harmony.	MineralMan	May 2018	#226
That's exactly what happened	Lordquinton	May 2018	#47
At least you admit your strawman	Major Nikon	May 2018	#24
"no evidence"	Major Nikon	May 2018	#133
You missed an essential part.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#141
Funny how you pretend to want to engage in dialog after injecting yet more strawman into it	Major Nikon	May 2018	#150
Funny how you ignored my point.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#152
The evidence proves otherwise	Major Nikon	May 2018	#160
Nice try.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#161
One would have to be delusional to think so	Major Nikon	May 2018	#165
I am enjoying how you divert yourself.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#166
I'm diverting to your own words. Please try to stay focused.	Major Nikon	May 2018	#172
"Deists believe in a god of nature -- a noninterventionist creator"	procon	May 2018	#16
I understand your position.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#17
It's actually simplistic and non-inclusive	Major Nikon	May 2018	#56
It has always somewhat surprised me when religious folks try to appropriate	procon	May 2018	#57
Most religions have some kind of creation myth	Major Nikon	May 2018	#58
That's why I'm an atheist, it's much less complicated than the religious contortions.	procon	May 2018	#60
There are those here who make that overly complicated as well	Major Nikon	May 2018	#61
LOL - that's good, too. nt	procon	May 2018	#62
Christians are not deists	Cartoonist	May 2018	#25
Christians can be deists	Major Nikon	May 2018	#27
Are there Christians like that?	Cartoonist	May 2018	#28
At one time there were many	Major Nikon	May 2018	#37
By definition, Christians must believe that Jesus was 'anointed'	muriel_volestrangler	May 2018	#85
And thus the matter is settled?	guillaumeb	May 2018	#31
Just responding to your OP	Cartoonist	May 2018	#33
The sources can make that claim.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#34
I'm OK with the definition you provided.	Cartoonist	May 2018	#35
Deity and deism.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#63
Dumb and dumber	Cartoonist	May 2018	#77
Anyone can be a Christian.	Mariana	May 2018	#43
There are those who believe otherwise	Major Nikon	May 2018	#86
Yeah, and they all believe and disbelieve different things. nt.	Mariana	May 2018	#87
It's part of the Christian tradition to argue about who is a Christian	marylandblue	May 2018	#91
Things were much simpler when you could just BBQ dissenters	Major Nikon	May 2018	#92
A non-interventionist creator	paleotn	May 2018	#36
This becomes apparent when you consider how they avoided the supernatural	Major Nikon	May 2018	#39
I think you didn't read very far into your own source	Major Nikon	May 2018	#40
I think you are channeling another poster here.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#67
The same methods of actually reading the material you provided?	Mariana	May 2018	#79
Same nonsense	Major Nikon	May 2018	#82
Such a literalist	Lordquinton	May 2018	#48
Your source is biased.	Mariana	May 2018	#50
Did you really expect anything other than confirmation bias?	Major Nikon	May 2018	#55
Name an unbiased source.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#68
You can do better.	Mariana	May 2018	#72
And some can find fault with everything	guillaumeb	May 2018	#112
Websters, Collins, Oxford, Britanica, among others	Major Nikon	May 2018	#89
So you openly admit you went to a biased source?	Lordquinton	May 2018	#96
You need to reread what I wrote.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#113
Funny how you always say that when you've been busted contradicting yourself	Major Nikon	May 2018	#126
Ok, reread it	Lordquinton	May 2018	#127
What are you trying to accomplish with all your post?	njhoneybadger	May 2018	#51
Nailed it	Major Nikon	May 2018	#54
You sound convinced of your own opinion.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#69
What are you trying to accomplish with your post? nt.	Mariana	May 2018	#73
...	Major Nikon	May 2018	#94
To promote dialogue in with those who wish it.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#107
Please do keep promoting this thread	Major Nikon	May 2018	#143
Your best talent so far seems to be posting such clips.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#147
Yours seems to be hubris	Major Nikon	May 2018	#156
You need a better dictionary.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#158
We can use yours if you like	Major Nikon	May 2018	#171
LMAO	trotsky	May 2018	#206
At least he is consistently inconsistent	Major Nikon	May 2018	#207
Not another type of theist - here's the definition of theism:	muriel_volestrangler	May 2018	#75
You may be using a too-high level of diction.	MineralMan	May 2018	#78
Were you confused?	guillaumeb	May 2018	#117
Someone is	Major Nikon	May 2018	#181
Kinda funny though	Major Nikon	May 2018	#88
Now, here we have the crux of the matter. Both recognize a supreme being but	PatrickforO	May 2018	#105
So in your view, what does a deist believe that's different from your belief?	Major Nikon	May 2018	#180
According to the definitions provided here, the deist believes there is a God,	PatrickforO	May 2018	#199
Creation was intervention.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#116
Which is where the intervention stops for deists	Major Nikon	May 2018	#131
You yourself bolded "a noninterventionist creator". Are you saying that's an oxymoron	muriel_volestrangler	May 2018	#200
What's your take on free will?	Htom Sirveaux	May 2018	#80
As sentient beings, we have free will.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#118
From your own crappy source:	Voltaire2	May 2018	#90
...	Major Nikon	May 2018	#93
Apparently, one needs only to read the introductory material	MineralMan	May 2018	#95
The 11th Commandment in action is amusing to behold.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#119
"amusing to behold"	Major Nikon	May 2018	#125
"Mansplaining" can also be amusing to see.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#229
...	Major Nikon	May 2018	#230
So pointing out that your source contradicts your thesis is a violation of your rules?	Voltaire2	May 2018	#222
Many things are amusing...	MineralMan	May 2018	#227
Someone clearly got their feelings hurt in the process	Major Nikon	May 2018	#232
So you go to a conservative christian site for absolute definition on religious matters	Lordquinton	May 2018	#97
This thread is now a religion forum classic trainwreck.	Voltaire2	May 2018	#98
It should be a sticky	Major Nikon	May 2018	#99
Well, it is sunday...	Lordquinton	May 2018	#100
Bookmarking to be a permanent reference...	NeoGreen	May 2018	#101
Don't forget to rec	Major Nikon	May 2018	#102
Done (nt)	NeoGreen	May 2018	#103
Oh, we do know	Lordquinton	May 2018	#130
K&R for future reference.	MineralMan	May 2018	#104
Only 27 out of 80.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#149
The quality more than makes up for the quantity	Major Nikon	May 2018	#174
Irrelevant to the discussion.	MineralMan	May 2018	#208
There's a lesson to be learned here	Major Nikon	May 2018	#187
"Thoughts"	saidsimplesimon	May 2018	#175
Which does not make them atheists.	guillaumeb	May 2018	#210
And there you go with a fine display of hypocrisy once again.	trotsky	May 2018	#201
Deism defers to the study of Nature; Science	Bretton Garcia	May 2018	#233
This might be an eternal thread.	Voltaire2	May 2018	#234
Hopefully there's no religion in it	Bretton Garcia	May 2018	#235
Good god man, don't ever say that	Major Nikon	May 2018	#236

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