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Ocelot II

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12. Sort of.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 11:04 AM
Jun 2024

John I says: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. ... The Word became flesh and dwelt among us." As I understand it, this means that the Logos, "Word," means Jesus, the pre-existent second person of the Trinity. So God would have had to have created himself. The early Greek Christians who were trying to establish a coherent belief system had to consider the fact that if they deemed Jesus to be a god they wouldn't be monotheists any more, so they had to come up with a concept that Jesus, God and the Holy Spirit (which is a thing in Judaism, the influence of God over the world) were all one entity. Jesus had to be God or the concept didn't work, but Jesus didn't exist in the world until he was born as a human, then died (sort of) and went back to being pure God again.

No, I don't get it either.

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