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cleanhippie

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31. So you admit that I never said it was normal behavior. Great, thanks.

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Sun Oct 21, 2012, 12:42 PM

Oct 2012

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Was Abraham just a poor man who skipped his meds too? Or was that "ordinary religious observance?"

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Worshipper rips out both eyes in Mass with his BARE HANDS [View all] cleanhippie Oct 2012 OP

The voices said..... lend me your eyes?? n/t 2on2u Oct 2012 #1

Matthew 18:9 LuvNewcastle Oct 2012 #2

Wow. Talk about an Oedipus complex. geckosfeet Oct 2012 #3

We discussed this when it happened, last year: struggle4progress Oct 2012 #4

It is sad, but my point still stands. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #7

Nobody but you even pretends to thinks this was normal behavior struggle4progress Oct 2012 #10

Feel free to show me where I said this was normal behavior. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #18

The Daily Mail article is dated October 2011, and you posted in the R/T thread on this back then, struggle4progress Oct 2012 #20

So you admit I never said it was normal behavior. Great, thanks. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #24

You claim to be unable to distinguish between a poor man, who blinds himself after skipping struggle4progress Oct 2012 #27

So you admit that I never said it was normal behavior. Great, thanks. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #31

So if an atheist heard voices a plucked out his eyes, would you ask humblebum Oct 2012 #17

Except that seeing visions, hearing the voice(s) of God or DavidL Oct 2012 #28

"I have never heard about ... atheist...." humblebum Oct 2012 #39

there are many studies linking religious belief to positive mental health DavidL Oct 2012 #46

The percentage of child sexual abuse for public school teachers is almost equal to humblebum Oct 2012 #50

There are also many reputable Christian counselors and psych professionals. nt humblebum Oct 2012 #51

Oh, PLEEZE, Michele Bachmann's dear hubby must have DavidL Oct 2012 #58

I was right about the agenda thing. But the evidence put before you humblebum Oct 2012 #67

The "evidence put before you"? (me?) Michele Bachmann? DavidL Oct 2012 #68

Kinda gettin' out there a little, aren't you? nt humblebum Oct 2012 #69

I noticed that no one wants to address your actual question. trotsky Oct 2012 #48

It's expected. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #54

The actual question is just about unanswerable as LARED Oct 2012 #55

Well I know you have a history of punting on the tough questions. trotsky Oct 2012 #57

No I have a history of avoiding questions with no answers. nt LARED Oct 2012 #60

"Where does religious devotion stop and mental illness begin?" trotsky Oct 2012 #62

To clarify; As framed in this thread there is no answer LARED Oct 2012 #63

So there IS an answer, if the mental illness is "extreme" enough? trotsky Oct 2012 #66

Are you always this boring? LARED Oct 2012 #70

As opposed to starting a thread based on the notion that atheism is a mental illness? That's OK? 2ndAmForComputers Oct 2012 #71

Do you always argue via personal attacks? trotsky Oct 2012 #72

Bet he regretted doing this shortly afterwards Applan Oct 2012 #5

Keep selling it. TheCowsCameHome Oct 2012 #6

Selling what? cleanhippie Oct 2012 #8

Since it's an older story JohnnyRingo Oct 2012 #9

Not loud or often enough. IIRC from CSI or similar... TheMadMonk Oct 2012 #12

How can so many people believe this stuff... Auntie Bush Oct 2012 #11

how? because they take passages like this as the literal truth. madrchsod Oct 2012 #13

You actually cut and paste a year old story about a schizophrenic to try to connect it to religion? rug Oct 2012 #14

'See what I am getting at?' ...... No. LARED Oct 2012 #15

This. cordelia Oct 2012 #16

What was it when god told Isaac to kill his child? cleanhippie Oct 2012 #19

Are you equating God with voices in his head? nt LARED Oct 2012 #21

Don't you? How else do you get your instructions? mr blur Oct 2012 #22

My instructions? Care to expand LARED Oct 2012 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author Marrah_G Oct 2012 #73

Isn't that what Isaac heard, god's voice telling him to kill his child? cleanhippie Oct 2012 #25

According to scripture, yes it was God's voice. nt LARED Oct 2012 #26

So what's the difference between mental illness and hearing gods voice, when both tell you to kill? cleanhippie Oct 2012 #32

It's a pretty simple concept LARED Oct 2012 #40

No one else but Moses and Abraham heard the voice talking to them. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #42

And you know this tidbit how? LARED Oct 2012 #47

You, my friend, are sidestepping the question. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #49

Which question? I thought I answered your questions nt LARED Oct 2012 #52

The two sentences that end with question marks. Start with those. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #53

Ok LARED Oct 2012 #56

You continue to dodge. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #64

Not clear who's dodging here. Perhaps you need to restate the topic at hand, as I answered LARED Oct 2012 #65

Well... Marrah_G Oct 2012 #74

"There is no relation between mental illness and faith" except DavidL Oct 2012 #29

The behavior of the faithless and those with mental illness can sometimes be similar. rug Oct 2012 #30

When faithlesness becomes a method for treating mental illness, your point will be valid. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #33

The topic is cause not treatment. rug Oct 2012 #34

The topic is mental illness. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #35

Your topic is that religion causes mental illness. rug Oct 2012 #36

Causes? No. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #37

That was Abraham not Isaac. rug Oct 2012 #38

Oh, we agree that it is stupid. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #41

The best cure for hypocrisy is knowledge. rug Oct 2012 #43

"The notion of hearing voices had a much different meaning three milennia ago than it does now." cleanhippie Oct 2012 #44

Not really. Along with dreams and angels, that was a common story-telling device then. rug Oct 2012 #45

Horrible story LeftishBrit Oct 2012 #59

Far more common and important: self-castration, etc. dimbear Oct 2012 #61