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LARED

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40. It's a pretty simple concept

Sun Oct 21, 2012, 01:36 PM

Oct 2012

Scripture states Moses heard God voice. (as in an audible voice) It is a matter of faith that scripture is stating a true fact. If God told Moses to kill that was what God wanted him to do as a test of faith. (please don't make the mistake that I believe God is an all loving entity that would never do such a thing, that's scriptural hogwash)

Mental illness is believing you hear voices. Voices in your head.

This will get pointless rather quickly as you do not believe in God, you believe Moses and the bible are myths or made up stories. To you it's all made up and there is little or no difference between a mentally disturbed man and a believer.

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Worshipper rips out both eyes in Mass with his BARE HANDS [View all] cleanhippie Oct 2012 OP

The voices said..... lend me your eyes?? n/t 2on2u Oct 2012 #1

Matthew 18:9 LuvNewcastle Oct 2012 #2

Wow. Talk about an Oedipus complex. geckosfeet Oct 2012 #3

We discussed this when it happened, last year: struggle4progress Oct 2012 #4

It is sad, but my point still stands. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #7

Nobody but you even pretends to thinks this was normal behavior struggle4progress Oct 2012 #10

Feel free to show me where I said this was normal behavior. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #18

The Daily Mail article is dated October 2011, and you posted in the R/T thread on this back then, struggle4progress Oct 2012 #20

So you admit I never said it was normal behavior. Great, thanks. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #24

You claim to be unable to distinguish between a poor man, who blinds himself after skipping struggle4progress Oct 2012 #27

So you admit that I never said it was normal behavior. Great, thanks. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #31

So if an atheist heard voices a plucked out his eyes, would you ask humblebum Oct 2012 #17

Except that seeing visions, hearing the voice(s) of God or DavidL Oct 2012 #28

"I have never heard about ... atheist...." humblebum Oct 2012 #39

there are many studies linking religious belief to positive mental health DavidL Oct 2012 #46

The percentage of child sexual abuse for public school teachers is almost equal to humblebum Oct 2012 #50

There are also many reputable Christian counselors and psych professionals. nt humblebum Oct 2012 #51

Oh, PLEEZE, Michele Bachmann's dear hubby must have DavidL Oct 2012 #58

I was right about the agenda thing. But the evidence put before you humblebum Oct 2012 #67

The "evidence put before you"? (me?) Michele Bachmann? DavidL Oct 2012 #68

Kinda gettin' out there a little, aren't you? nt humblebum Oct 2012 #69

I noticed that no one wants to address your actual question. trotsky Oct 2012 #48

It's expected. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #54

The actual question is just about unanswerable as LARED Oct 2012 #55

Well I know you have a history of punting on the tough questions. trotsky Oct 2012 #57

No I have a history of avoiding questions with no answers. nt LARED Oct 2012 #60

"Where does religious devotion stop and mental illness begin?" trotsky Oct 2012 #62

To clarify; As framed in this thread there is no answer LARED Oct 2012 #63

So there IS an answer, if the mental illness is "extreme" enough? trotsky Oct 2012 #66

Are you always this boring? LARED Oct 2012 #70

As opposed to starting a thread based on the notion that atheism is a mental illness? That's OK? 2ndAmForComputers Oct 2012 #71

Do you always argue via personal attacks? trotsky Oct 2012 #72

Bet he regretted doing this shortly afterwards Applan Oct 2012 #5

Keep selling it. TheCowsCameHome Oct 2012 #6

Selling what? cleanhippie Oct 2012 #8

Since it's an older story JohnnyRingo Oct 2012 #9

Not loud or often enough. IIRC from CSI or similar... TheMadMonk Oct 2012 #12

How can so many people believe this stuff... Auntie Bush Oct 2012 #11

how? because they take passages like this as the literal truth. madrchsod Oct 2012 #13

You actually cut and paste a year old story about a schizophrenic to try to connect it to religion? rug Oct 2012 #14

'See what I am getting at?' ...... No. LARED Oct 2012 #15

This. cordelia Oct 2012 #16

What was it when god told Isaac to kill his child? cleanhippie Oct 2012 #19

Are you equating God with voices in his head? nt LARED Oct 2012 #21

Don't you? How else do you get your instructions? mr blur Oct 2012 #22

My instructions? Care to expand LARED Oct 2012 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author Marrah_G Oct 2012 #73

Isn't that what Isaac heard, god's voice telling him to kill his child? cleanhippie Oct 2012 #25

According to scripture, yes it was God's voice. nt LARED Oct 2012 #26

So what's the difference between mental illness and hearing gods voice, when both tell you to kill? cleanhippie Oct 2012 #32

It's a pretty simple concept LARED Oct 2012 #40

No one else but Moses and Abraham heard the voice talking to them. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #42

And you know this tidbit how? LARED Oct 2012 #47

You, my friend, are sidestepping the question. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #49

Which question? I thought I answered your questions nt LARED Oct 2012 #52

The two sentences that end with question marks. Start with those. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #53

Ok LARED Oct 2012 #56

You continue to dodge. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #64

Not clear who's dodging here. Perhaps you need to restate the topic at hand, as I answered LARED Oct 2012 #65

Well... Marrah_G Oct 2012 #74

"There is no relation between mental illness and faith" except DavidL Oct 2012 #29

The behavior of the faithless and those with mental illness can sometimes be similar. rug Oct 2012 #30

When faithlesness becomes a method for treating mental illness, your point will be valid. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #33

The topic is cause not treatment. rug Oct 2012 #34

The topic is mental illness. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #35

Your topic is that religion causes mental illness. rug Oct 2012 #36

Causes? No. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #37

That was Abraham not Isaac. rug Oct 2012 #38

Oh, we agree that it is stupid. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #41

The best cure for hypocrisy is knowledge. rug Oct 2012 #43

"The notion of hearing voices had a much different meaning three milennia ago than it does now." cleanhippie Oct 2012 #44

Not really. Along with dreams and angels, that was a common story-telling device then. rug Oct 2012 #45

Horrible story LeftishBrit Oct 2012 #59

Far more common and important: self-castration, etc. dimbear Oct 2012 #61