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Mon Aug 12, 2013, 12:28 PM Aug 2013

New meta-analysis checks the correlation between intelligence and faith [View all]

First systematic analysis of its kind even proposes reasons for the negative correlation.



The relationship between countries' belief in a god and national average IQ.

by Akshat Rathi - Aug 11 2013, 6:30pm EDT

More than 400 years before the birth of Jesus of Nazareth, Greek playwright Euripides wrote in his play Bellerophon, “Doth some one say that there be gods above? There are not; no, there are not. Let no fool, led by the old false fable, thus deceive you.”

Euripides was not an atheist and only used the word “fool” to provoke his audience. But, if you look at the studies conducted over the past century, you will find that those with religious beliefs will, on the whole, score lower on tests of intelligence. That is the conclusion of psychologists Miron Zuckerman and Jordan Silberman of the University of Rochester and Judith Hall of Northeastern University, who have published a meta-analysis in Personality and Social Psychology Review.

This is the first systematic meta-analysis of 63 studies conducted in between 1928 and 2012. In such an analysis, the authors look at each study’s sample size, quality of data collection, and analysis methods, then account for biases that may have inadvertently crept into the work. This data is next refracted through the prism of statistical theory to draw an overarching conclusion of what scholars in this field find. “Our conclusion,” as Zuckerman puts it, “is not new.”

“If you count the number of studies which find a positive correlation against those that find a negative correlation, you can draw the same conclusion because most studies find a negative correlation,” added Zuckerman. But that conclusion would be qualitative, because the studies’ methods vary. “What we have done is to draw that conclusion more accurately through statistical analysis.”

http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/08/new-meta-analysis-checks-the-correlation-between-intelligence-and-faith/

Here's the abstract. The study is behind a firewall.

http://psr.sagepub.com/content/early/2013/08/02/1088868313497266

I can't wait for some intelligent responses.

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I'm having trouble opening the article, but I would question the validity of any cbayer Aug 2013 #1
There ought to be as many dots above 100 as below. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #2
Correct. That is the point that I was trying to make as well. cbayer Aug 2013 #6
I guess the rest of the world is the opposite of Lake Woebegone; no one is above average. n/t lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #8
Let me take a whack at why that's not so. dimbear Aug 2013 #26
It appears that only about 13 out of 137 countries are of average or above intelligence ... Jim__ Aug 2013 #3
And from what I did see, the bulk of those studied (87%) were from western countries. cbayer Aug 2013 #7
Yea, Wilson and Sociobiolgy gave IQ scores a bad reputation. rug Aug 2013 #11
The graph is just one of the 63 studies muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #13
My read was that although they found a higher number of studies with cbayer Aug 2013 #16
I'm not sure what you mean by 'substantiating' correlation muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #17
Because other studies had claimed to have made a correlation, cbayer Aug 2013 #18
A meta study is defiend as 'looking at other studies and not doing their own' muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #19
I am very familiar with what a meta study is, muriel. cbayer Aug 2013 #22
No, the graph posted in the OP does not tell the tale at all muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #23
You are correct about the title. cbayer Aug 2013 #24
I presume you're talking about American atheists muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #25
There is also a correlation between being part of a privilege class and cbayer Aug 2013 #28
"More than 87 percent of the participants were from the US, the UK, and Canada." Jim__ Aug 2013 #4
Mensa members are supposed to be very intelligent so I decided to see how many are religious. ... spin Aug 2013 #5
I don't find this surprising at all. cbayer Aug 2013 #9
In high school I had a close friend who was a member of Mensa. ... spin Aug 2013 #10
Don't get me wrong, I like super intelligent people. cbayer Aug 2013 #14
Unfortunately, being in that top 2% okasha Aug 2013 #20
The Mensa data you quote tells us they are far more nonreligious than the average in America, dimbear Aug 2013 #21
The data on scientists closely matches members of Mensa. ... spin Aug 2013 #27
no data for people above 110 IQ? eShirl Aug 2013 #12
I think those are averages within specific countries. cbayer Aug 2013 #15
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