2016 Postmortem

truedelphi

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161. This brings to mind the atrocious swift boating of John Kerry.

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:35 PM

Feb 2016

True to the workings of his brilliant mind, political comic Jon Stewart said to John Kerry, when welcoming Kerry to his show during the Autumn of 2004, "So Mr Senator, Sir, you just never were in Vietnam, were you?"

Which got a huge laugh from not only the audience but Kerry as well.

The task before each and every one of us who is adamantly for Sen Sanders is in seeing that these Big Lies are repudiated. And in seeing that many of the problems with the election system are ironed out, long before the Election Night in November.

We really don't need yet another situation wherein the Establishment Itself announces who won, before the votes are even counted!

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Celebrated Photographer: Yes, that is Bernie Sanders. Time Magazine is lying [View all] cali Feb 2016 OP

FFS can this please finally settle this? Recursion Feb 2016 #1

I agree that it's basically insignificant cali Feb 2016 #4

I totally get that. Recursion Feb 2016 #6

You are right, but cali Feb 2016 #8

And, we are sadly in exact agreement there Recursion Feb 2016 #9

Now I'll add why I think, poor as the odds are, cali Feb 2016 #13

I'm probably going to vote for Sanders in the Democrats Abroad Global Primary for basically Recursion Feb 2016 #14

The only thing that would keep Hillary sammythecat Feb 2016 #121

Sanders/Kucinich would make me almost as happy as a Sanders/Warren ticket. AtheistCrusader Feb 2016 #128

I made a big mistake here sammythecat Feb 2016 #132

Geeze, get me all excited... AtheistCrusader Feb 2016 #133

I don't know much about him either, except sammythecat Feb 2016 #135

Nobody forceably removed from the stage of a Grateful Dead concert-- geologic Feb 2016 #150

My theory: merrily Feb 2016 #11

And yet that total is what we're starting with in both states Recursion Feb 2016 #12

Nominate someone who turns people out. Also, by that time, the Republicans will have only merrily Feb 2016 #15

That is the exact thing that haunts me. They feel like we did in 2008. Recursion Feb 2016 #17

Read my prior post again, please. I added an edit I think you will like. merrily Feb 2016 #18

Good catch, thanks. I think even Vermin Supreme got 3 Rep. votes. Recursion Feb 2016 #24

Are you serious? merrily Feb 2016 #26

Right: the DNC has refused to kneecap our frontrunner, despite the fact that any consultant Recursion Feb 2016 #28

That is not what I said. merrily Feb 2016 #30

I think it might end up being Rubio cali Feb 2016 #29

It's rare I agree with you four times in one day, but here we are Recursion Feb 2016 #32

That is journalist fantasy. cali Feb 2016 #36

And yet, Bush is making a comeback. I wouldn't rule him out yet either. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #37

I admit, I've ruled him out. cali Feb 2016 #39

Same here Recursion Feb 2016 #42

He's so... cali Feb 2016 #44

Right? (nt) Recursion Feb 2016 #45

I saw a SC Republican focus group yesterday that said no more Bushes basically. Punkingal Feb 2016 #51

I thought so too but now I am not so sure. Stay tuned. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #43

It's like the tortus and the hare. Bush being the tortous. Remember he has "Dirty Tricks" Rove rhett o rick Feb 2016 #151

Where Bernie could win over independents and some Republicans from Kasich or Rubio is H-1B visas cascadiance Feb 2016 #56

That's true, but is that a significant number? cali Feb 2016 #67

I think that it should be put to the test by asking about this issue in the debates... cascadiance Feb 2016 #85

They may have thought Vermin Supreme was a ratfscker. merrily Feb 2016 #174

Please, by all means, give Rep. Lewis a call. Hissyspit Feb 2016 #60

Seriously? Recursion Feb 2016 #64

No. Democrats using tactics like he did yesterday is why we lose. Hissyspit Feb 2016 #66

+1 BeanMusical Feb 2016 #170

"This is why we lose" Say WH-HAT? truedelphi Feb 2016 #163

Perhaps because the sus453 Feb 2016 #143

i can tell you why we had lower turn out questionseverything Feb 2016 #144

It isn't just a minimizing of Bernie's civil rights activism, but also of his honesty. femmedem Feb 2016 #89

Good on ya cali ! Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #140

Thanks, ferd cali Feb 2016 #141

And again...this is a Rovian tactic. Attack the strengths of AikidoSoul Feb 2016 #176

It was a ridiculous meme to begin with but memes when ignored have ways of killing campaigns, eg., Live and Learn Feb 2016 #27

No. It will be brought up from now until the convention. jeff47 Feb 2016 #98

This photo flap only has significance because it adds to the "throw everything and see if it sticks" mikehiggins Feb 2016 #99

This puts paid to the doubters, spinners and liars. Divernan Feb 2016 #2

The depths of this little episode of ratfuckery are truly unfathomable. mhatrw Feb 2016 #149

Holy shit! Did all this info come out today? cui bono Feb 2016 #157

This brings to mind the atrocious swift boating of John Kerry. truedelphi Feb 2016 #161

K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SamKnause Feb 2016 #3

I bet the MSM will not report this. SamKnause Feb 2016 #5

We'll just have to keep correcting MSM bullshit cali Feb 2016 #7

I just watched the clip again. SamKnause Feb 2016 #10

It's also lazy ass journalism. cali Feb 2016 #23

They are not journalists. SamKnause Feb 2016 #25

But watch.... Bangbangdem Feb 2016 #104

Thank You For Setting The Record Straight cantbeserious Feb 2016 #16

Very happy to do it. Thanks for the kick cali Feb 2016 #20

K n r ReasonableToo Feb 2016 #19

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #21

I must have missed this photo kerfuffle. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #22

'A concerted effort to try to scrub Bernie's history' Exactly and well said. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #33

And when they can't do that, they claim none of it matters anyway, it was decades ago! cui bono Feb 2016 #158

Yep, they are pathetic and nauseating. BeanMusical Feb 2016 #171

Chris Matthews (after last night's debate) brought it up and said it wasn't Bernie KoKo Feb 2016 #61

Great Find. Thank you. K&R nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #31

Missing all the du Hillary fans who insisted we were lying when cali Feb 2016 #34

Of course, it's Bernie! flpoljunkie Feb 2016 #35

But some in the MSM and hill fans have been saying that it absolutely isn't cali Feb 2016 #46

I'm surprised they haven't tried to photoshop Generic Other Feb 2016 #68

But if you can't prove it is a duck even though it looks, walks and talks like one and has Live and Learn Feb 2016 #53

Also, Cali, did you see this Mother Jones' article? Duppers Feb 2016 #38

Yes, thank you. It does indeed cali Feb 2016 #41

When you compare the two photos and look first at the hands and wrists appalachiablue Feb 2016 #102

Good observations, my friend. Duppers Feb 2016 #120

Isn't that Bruce in the upper right corner? Kensan Feb 2016 #146

Oh man I was going on ears alone. Kalidurga Feb 2016 #156

K&R denbot Feb 2016 #40

It's just an attempt to swift boat of Sanders' civil rights record and it's disgusting. myrna minx Feb 2016 #47

Exactly so. cali Feb 2016 #52

Go ahead Hillary fans, call Lyon a liar. I double dog dare you cali Feb 2016 #48

Thanks for posting. Giving a K & R. Bohunk68 Feb 2016 #50

I'm sorry that John Lewis got involved in this debacle. he's an American hero who is above Doctor_J Feb 2016 #49

Evidence would seem to indicate that he is not, in fact, "above this sort of thing." Funny how, when Gene Debs Feb 2016 #103

I think this should be the focus until May bravenak Feb 2016 #54

I think you don't give a damn how much hilly lies. cali Feb 2016 #57

They all lie. I'm just observant enough to realize it. bravenak Feb 2016 #58

May the Best Liar Win! Iggy Knorr Feb 2016 #65

Some are far more dishonest than others. Your powers of observation cali Feb 2016 #69

And some speak to everybody but us with respect and thats my thing bravenak Feb 2016 #74

Okay cali Feb 2016 #78

+1 Kittycat Feb 2016 #145

History says otherwise. AtheistCrusader Feb 2016 #105

Scrub? bravenak Feb 2016 #106

Yes, scrub. AtheistCrusader Feb 2016 #108

But do we have to make admiration over him? bravenak Feb 2016 #109

No one said anyone had to be excited tkmorris Feb 2016 #114

Whats a lie? That picture? bravenak Feb 2016 #116

The lie is the attempt to deny Bernie Sanders part of his own history and legacy. AtheistCrusader Feb 2016 #126

Well. I guess he understand now why bravenak Feb 2016 #127

We all have to own the consequences of our actions. AtheistCrusader Feb 2016 #129

I felt it when he discussed the sanitation strikers. bravenak Feb 2016 #131

I do know it's getting added to a whole lot of confirmation biases for people on all sides AtheistCrusader Feb 2016 #134

Thank you, this is so true. bravenak Feb 2016 #136

All true, and I agree. AtheistCrusader Feb 2016 #115

In 1964 Hillary was in high school radical noodle Feb 2016 #172

You should read her autobiography. "Living History" AtheistCrusader Feb 2016 #177

I did read her biography radical noodle Feb 2016 #178

I did as well. AtheistCrusader Feb 2016 #179

Ah yes, rationalization is the key to happiness. Correct? nm rhett o rick Feb 2016 #153

I'm interested to know when Bernie lied. n/t Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #168

Inartful Ratfuckers Iggy Knorr Feb 2016 #55

THIS. Is what Bernie is up against. A once-venerable news-magazine attempting to LIE about him. AzDar Feb 2016 #59

Not just Time. Yesterday Jonathan Capehart cali Feb 2016 #63

Does Capehart have Twitter? TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #80

Yes cali Feb 2016 #110

Yes, Capehart has been all over TV saying it isn't Bernie dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #113

What a find! To have the actual photographer verify the authenticity, then ADD that it was the first FailureToCommunicate Feb 2016 #62

Please contact the Post, Time and Chris Matthews cali Feb 2016 #70

Are these the pictures Tweety was whining about on his show? in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #71

Yes. And Capehart and the WaPo and and and cali Feb 2016 #73

Okay. Thanks! I'm going to go enlighten Matthews again. in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #77

Looks like Bernie to me (nt) nyabingi Feb 2016 #72

It doesn't matter who it looks like. cali Feb 2016 #75

But now Time will have to call the photographer a liar. valerief Feb 2016 #79

Just so you know Andrea Mitchell just had Capehart on her Noon show KoKo Feb 2016 #123

Proof schmoof. You're ruining the narrative! valerief Feb 2016 #76

And I intend to keep removing those turds. cali Feb 2016 #81

retractions need to be demanded on all fronts nt retrowire Feb 2016 #82

Yep. Pretty vile swiftboating cali Feb 2016 #87

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #83

Worse than the Kerry Swift Boat TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #84

There's a reason capehart keeps lying about Bernie cali Feb 2016 #86

Oh...... SoapBox Feb 2016 #112

Wow, that is interesting dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #117

Actually, he is now a paid staffer in her campaign cali Feb 2016 #118

Damn, that does indeed put some context into Capehart's sliming - eom dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #119

"Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?" nt mhatrw Feb 2016 #138

Time's B.S. repeated on NPR this morning. Eleanors38 Feb 2016 #155

Capehart, eh? MisterP Feb 2016 #160

NT JRLeft Feb 2016 #88

Can you believe that Chris Matthews and Jonathan Capeheart went there on the air???? jillan Feb 2016 #90

Oh.yes, I can believe that hillshills have no problem brazenly lying cali Feb 2016 #92

The constant flow of cheesy, transparent lies, smears, and dirty tricks coming from the Zorra Feb 2016 #91

Lewis supported Hillary against Obama too Geronimoe Feb 2016 #93

He finally switched to Obama after his district voted for him 3-1 cali Feb 2016 #94

And note it took his district's vote to make him switch. jeff47 Feb 2016 #100

Dragged kicking and screaming. frylock Feb 2016 #125

Come on Hillary supporters, where are you? Arazi Feb 2016 #95

Thanks for the kick cali Feb 2016 #111

Actually it's clear zentrum Feb 2016 #96

I have seldom seen two photos of the same individual, taken so many years apart, and yet ... eppur_se_muova Feb 2016 #97

I agree. But I figured that is because I've been familiar cali Feb 2016 #101

He's the real McCoy, and that scares the shit out of some people. AtheistCrusader Feb 2016 #107

Actually, I'M the real Berni McCoy. berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #139

That's too awesome to go unapplauded renate Feb 2016 #169

Good, it is settled and e-mailed to spread around..thanks. Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #122

Thank you. cali Feb 2016 #130

KnR nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #124

K & R! TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #137

That is OBVIOUSLY Bernie Sanders in that photo! raging moderate Feb 2016 #142

Another K & R Duppers Feb 2016 #147

How did Time and WaPo both decide this photo was so important DirkGently Feb 2016 #148

Same reason for the anti-Gary Webb editorials in NYT, WaPo, LA Times ON SAME DAY... Eleanors38 Feb 2016 #154

Time mag's claim repeated this A.M. on NPR. Eleanors38 Feb 2016 #152

Rovian politics...why would the photographer lie? EndElectoral Feb 2016 #159

Has Time and WaPo apologized yet? EndElectoral Feb 2016 #162

I think they should apologize Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2016 #175

Electing a President whose genetilia "make history"... MadDAsHell Feb 2016 #164

I thought this was debanked months ago Jack Rabbit Feb 2016 #165

Important story Land Shark Feb 2016 #166

I was overjoyed when Tweetie admitted the whole thing was a lie. Oh, wait. That didn't happen? mikehiggins Feb 2016 #167

Kick and R BeanMusical Feb 2016 #173