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2016 Postmortem

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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:38 AM Feb 2016

Neocon Kagan Endorses Hillary Clinton [View all]

Kissinger is retired, but this jackass is unfortunately not.

https://consortiumnews.com/2016/02/25/neocon-kagan-endorses-hillary-clinton/

Prominent neocon Robert Kagan has endorsed Democrat Hillary Clinton for president, saying she represents the best hope for saving the United States from populist billionaire Donald Trump, who has repudiated the neoconservative cause of U.S. military interventions in line with Israel’s interests.

In a Washington Post op-ed published on Thursday, Kagan excoriated the Republican Party for creating the conditions for Trump’s rise and then asked, “So what to do now? The Republicans’ creation will soon be let loose on the land, leaving to others the job the party failed to carry out.”

Then referring to himself, he added, “For this former Republican, and perhaps for others, the only choice will be to vote for Hillary Clinton. The [Republican] party cannot be saved, but the country still can be.”

While many of Kagan’s observations about the Republican tolerance – and even encouragement – of bigotry are correct, the fact that a leading neocon, a co-founder of the infamous Project for the New American Century, has endorsed Clinton raises questions for Democrats who have so far given the former New York senator and Secretary of State mostly a pass on her pro-interventionist policies.

The fact is that Clinton has generally marched in lock step with the neocons as they have implemented an aggressive “regime change” strategy against governments and political movements that don’t toe Washington’s line or that deviate from Israel’s goals in the Middle East. So she has backed coups, such as in Honduras (2009) and Ukraine (2014); invasions, such as Iraq (2003) and Libya (2011); and subversions such as Syria (from 2011 to the present) – all with various degrees of disastrous results.

Yet, with the failure of Republican establishment candidates to gain political traction against Trump, Clinton has clearly become the choice of many neoconservatives and “liberal interventionists” who favor continuation of U.S. imperial designs around the world. The question for Democrats now is whether they wish to perpetuate those war-like policies by sticking with Clinton or should switch to Sen. Bernie Sanders, who offers a somewhat less aggressive (though vaguely defined) foreign policy.

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Parry. LOL...nt SidDithers Feb 2016 #1
If you have a URL proving that Kagan did not endorse Clinton, let's see it eridani Feb 2016 #2
Something something something Nuland's cookies something something...nt SidDithers Feb 2016 #37
Sid. LOL...it's back. nt leveymg Feb 2016 #12
Parry became a laughingstock when he became Putin's stenographer... SidDithers Feb 2016 #35
this thread is not about Parry, Putin or stenography... Raster Feb 2016 #48
Parry's the author of the piece in the OP!... SidDithers Feb 2016 #50
Were you on DUI during the Iraq War debate? Armstead Feb 2016 #51
This is NOT the first time this subject has come up and from other sources... Raster Feb 2016 #72
Kagan himself wrote the article in WAPO endorsing Hillary suffragette Feb 2016 #79
But that's not was was posted... SidDithers Feb 2016 #81
Anything to draw attention away from PNAC neocon Kagan's support. suffragette Feb 2016 #87
He could be the Devil's stenographer, sulphurdunn Feb 2016 #57
Devil's Stenographers. Great band name. aidbo Feb 2016 #89
His Ukraine shootdown articles are not his best work. But, he's nobody's laughingstock leveymg Feb 2016 #71
Robert Kagan founder of the neocons--was Clinton's adviser while she was SOS CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #67
Humor is often used to protect one's self from accepting the truth. arcane1 Feb 2016 #76
The humor is a piss-poor attempt at watering down the horror of this endorsement CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #80
Another endorsement. Clinton supporters should be very pleased. democrank Feb 2016 #3
I am. Also depressed but unsurprised by the DU response. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2016 #5
2nd most leftwing? The Redheaded Guy Feb 2016 #7
Kagan surely is not what should be meant... JackRiddler Feb 2016 #11
I think the more people who vote Democratic the better. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2016 #14
Look up PNAC in the DU archives from the Iraq War years Armstead Feb 2016 #54
If you don't expect the democrats sulphurdunn Feb 2016 #61
Sanders is getting the independent vote by 77% so far. eridani Feb 2016 #17
With friends like PNAC who needs enemies? Armstead Feb 2016 #36
Ain't no closet in the house. Fuddnik Feb 2016 #55
Thats complete bull. liberalnarb Feb 2016 #58
look at her voting record. Perogie Feb 2016 #63
So is wonderful when Sanders attracts Republican votes but terrible when Hillary does? yardwork Feb 2016 #9
Kagan is just one vote, but you would not know that given his role in destroying-- eridani Feb 2016 #15
Funny how that works eh? workinclasszero Feb 2016 #16
Still can't tell the difference between average joes and people with real power? eridani Feb 2016 #24
Hypocrites, it's the same crew that complained about HRC giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #27
That was about the difference between photo ops and private meetings n/t eridani Feb 2016 #28
No, no it wasn't. giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #32
Ignorance is not bliss Armstead Feb 2016 #39
They know that. They just need to defend Kagan the vicious amoral sociopath eridani Feb 2016 #42
I was against the war in Iraq when many on DU were for it. yardwork Feb 2016 #90
You really don't see the difference between CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #77
I was just going to post that. Funny how that works. nt stevenleser Feb 2016 #105
It was predicted: "Are Neocons Getting Ready to Ally With Hillary Clinton?" NYT KoKo Feb 2016 #73
Wow. I thought these guys were starting to fall in line for Rubio Renew Deal Feb 2016 #4
Rubio's done. JackRiddler Feb 2016 #13
Wow! A leading PNAC NeoCon (emphasis on the "Con") supports Hillary... Raster Feb 2016 #6
Special case. JackRiddler Feb 2016 #8
PNAC never left. Octafish Feb 2016 #10
Why assume that the influence flows in one direction? HillareeeHillaraah Feb 2016 #29
I hear ya! "Money trumps peace." -- pretzeldent George W Bush Octafish Feb 2016 #49
PNAC for Hillary, so not surprised. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #18
very cool song yourpaljoey Feb 2016 #34
Lol, when R's endorse BS it's a testament to his wide appeal, PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #19
Unbelievable garbage eridani Feb 2016 #20
Please hold while I note your concern. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #21
Please explain how Cheney = some dumbass voter with no power. n/t eridani Feb 2016 #25
Don't even try. The "please hold while I note your concern" bullshit should tell you... Raster Feb 2016 #30
Pro tip: if you're looking for a serious discussion with someone, PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #41
It's like starting a post with LOL.... Armstead Feb 2016 #45
Serious discussion = equating people who dictate foreign policy with random voters eridani Feb 2016 #46
Huge difference in their Republican supporters. stillwaiting Feb 2016 #22
Read your history...Not abcient history but read DU back when Iraq War debate was going on Armstead Feb 2016 #43
Careful what you ask and hope for with this endorsement mrdmk Feb 2016 #95
Can you show me where I asked or hoped for anything regarding this endorsement? PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #96
It started with, "LOL" mrdmk Feb 2016 #98
So... No. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #99
Hawks of a feather...... marmar Feb 2016 #23
Any right-wingers fleeing Trump should be viewed as a win Tarc Feb 2016 #26
It is't Kagan's fucking VOTE that is at issue. eridani Feb 2016 #31
Yep Tarc Feb 2016 #38
That "regime change" only tore the shit out another country eridani Feb 2016 #44
how fucking trite... Raster Feb 2016 #33
Except that they'll remake our "team" in their old team's image. Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #64
I just love all the so-called TM99 Feb 2016 #40
Breaking! Dr. Strangelove endorses Hillary! Karmadillo Feb 2016 #47
That character was modeled on her friend Henry Kissinger. Fuddnik Feb 2016 #56
I find this horrifying. bunnies Feb 2016 #52
Problem? There's no problem. JoeyT Feb 2016 #59
Heh. bunnies Feb 2016 #62
Good...Now Necon Bob & the Hill can start WW III together! andrewv1 Feb 2016 #53
She's not batshit crazy n/t eridani Feb 2016 #103
Birds of a feather and all. BillZBubb Feb 2016 #60
Good. Proof that Hillary can work with the other side of the aisle Freddie Stubbs Feb 2016 #65
Maybe they can bomb Iran together. JackRiddler Feb 2016 #84
If this election is Hillary vs. Trump the neocons are going to leave the Republican party DesMoinesDem Feb 2016 #66
I think HRC has created and spearheaded a neocon faction within the Democratic party CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #68
Just to clarify when I say neocons I don't mean average Republican voters. DesMoinesDem Feb 2016 #82
That's what is revealing about this endorsement--she's not going after "voters" CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #88
Ugh..what an endorsement EndElectoral Feb 2016 #69
Is this anything like when RNC chair Reince Priebus offered unsolicited support to Bernie? JTFrog Feb 2016 #70
K&R for Exposure! KoKo Feb 2016 #74
Wow! this validates what everyone has been saying: the obvious: amborin Feb 2016 #75
The PNAC lives ... Trajan Feb 2016 #78
Funny how Bernie supporters always tell us Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #83
You think this is about Bernie support? JackRiddler Feb 2016 #85
There is a reason why Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #91
Name a racist Republican who helped murder a million people. JackRiddler Feb 2016 #100
expanding the base is a bad thing? MariaThinks Feb 2016 #86
So Satan endorsing Hillary Clinton is not a bad thing, right? Raster Feb 2016 #93
A vicious neocon sociopath can never be part of the Dem base eridani Feb 2016 #104
Not sure if this is true but the SCOTUS needs to remain apolitical dr60omg Feb 2016 #92
This is a different Kagan...or not. Octafish Feb 2016 #97
Thanks again! Information is needed around here. K&R! haikugal Feb 2016 #102
Lol! zappaman Feb 2016 #94
K n R OZi Feb 2016 #101
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