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In reply to the discussion: Newly Released Emails Confirm Clinton is to Blame for Libya Disaster [View all]nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)92. Well let me see child, I will take the EMAILS, aka a primary source
I BOTHERED reading over your snakiness. But hey, you are working on depressing the vote in November with that Tactic... GOOD MOVE sparky.
None said he was a boy scout, but when you embed al Qaida with our allies, this has nada to do with terrorism. He was CONTAINED, LEARN TO READ. I GAVE A FUCKING LINK with that.
Among other things, his predecessor was one of our puppets
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/oct/23/libya-before-and-after-gaddafi
Did I mention he was just as ugly and nasty?
Now here is a tad MORE COMPLEXITY than I expect you can handle
The overthrow of Gaddafi & Co was far from being a straightforward revolution against tyranny, but the Wests latest military intervention cant be debunked as being simply about oil
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v33/n22/hugh-roberts/who-said-gaddafi-had-to-go
By the way, that came out BEFORE the Emails came out.
and here from VICE
t appears that Clinton's office too was awash in Libya rumors. Nearly a third of all the emails she received on the security and political situation in Libya during her tenure as Secretary of State came from Blumenthal, a longtime Clinton associate who was not formally employed by the State Department. He was on the payroll of the Clinton Foundation, bringing in $10,000 a month as a consultant, while pursuing his own business interests in Libya. Blumenthal's emails to Clinton now have been made public in response to a FOIA lawsuit filed by VICE News.
https://news.vice.com/article/libyan-oil-gold-and-qaddafi-the-strange-email-sidney-blumenthal-sent-hillary-clinton-in-2011
By the way I read a fair amount of them. This was about the gold dinar, the western economy, and of course, somewhat about oil and control. You may not want to listen to this, but human rights had butkis to do about it,. though they are always a nice talking point taht gullible people swallow whole.
The emails are up at the foia site
https://foia.state.gov/search/results.aspx
You can either search for the truth, it is there, it is not the best of indexed sites, but it is there, Or you can keep prattling along and be the clown of the class, about this being about terrorism and human rights. Really, at this point this is quite honestly willful ignorance.
Oh and by the way, this war has been an absolute human rights disaster. While you show me documents from the past, here you go
And that ISIS you seem to ignore has pledged to attack the US.
http://time.com/4114805/former-cia-director-isis-will-strike-america/
And you know who I will blame for that partly... yes, you guessed it... Clinton and her failed policy in Libya, Syria and other places, Just keeping it real.
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Newly Released Emails Confirm Clinton is to Blame for Libya Disaster [View all]
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
OP
Wow, the idea that she "turned Obama around on this" means Hillary *owns* the Libya policy.
reformist2
Mar 2016
#101
Hillary's foreign policy disasters should be a huge topic in this election.
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#111
These people don't worry about anything like that, or care about anything like that.
delrem
Mar 2016
#99
hillary: making isis what it is today in libya, syria, iraq, and beyond. nt
restorefreedom
Mar 2016
#7
Some of her supporters on DU would like us to believe SOS just does as POTUS says
tk2kewl
Mar 2016
#11
A problem is her private mail server, to do SOS business, excluded the gov't apparatus.
delrem
Mar 2016
#109
I agree with Slaughter. Serial regime change is exhausting. HRC deserves a rest
leveymg
Mar 2016
#19
Wars have consequences. She loves "No-flies". Recipe for everything, incl. starving people in Syria.
thereismore
Mar 2016
#24
They always want to blow up other countries without regard to the consequences
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#36
New Hillary Clinton Emails Show She Wanted Credit for Libya Intervention in 2011. Now She Doesn’t.
UglyGreed
Mar 2016
#33
Hillary's reckless bad judgement is the reason ISIS freely roams in Libya & Syria
amborin
Mar 2016
#38
Nice to see the Republicans don't have a monopoly on low information voters.
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#42
Nice to see that there's Democrats who still know how to deal with foreign affairs
Tarc
Mar 2016
#43
Libya is in chaos. A failed state crawling with ISIS, Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#44
Hillary Clinton will still win the Democratic nomination and be elected President.
George II
Mar 2016
#50
Ya. People love a tough leader who isn't afraid to use the military even if it the wrong thing to do
think
Mar 2016
#63
yes, and she is to blame for ISIS now in Libya and Syria, and the ME in chaos nt
amborin
Mar 2016
#52
bulletin: PROOF HRC caused WWII... yeah, it's true, Yes it is. LOL!
Recoverin_Republican
Mar 2016
#72
Breaking: Hillary Clinton KILLED CHRIST!!! ... It's true --- Yeah, uh-huh.
Recoverin_Republican
Mar 2016
#78
In this thread many Clinton loyalists still defending these policy disasters
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#120
How do you know it was 'reckless'? Were you sitting in on the deliberations with the Arab League,...
randome
Mar 2016
#126
Because the result is chaos, terrorism, a huge refugee crisis, and Africa flooded with US weapons
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#127
The result otherwise would have been chaos, terrorism and Qaddafi's promised 'bloodbath'.
randome
Mar 2016
#129
The people he was about to 'bloodbath' might have disagreed that things were so good.
randome
Mar 2016
#159
Convincing him to pursue a policy of regime change through force in Libya
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#124
So the assertion is Obama was reluctant to pursue regime change and the SOS "turned him around"?
EndElectoral
Mar 2016
#128
Exactly. She persuaded him to destroy Libya and now it is a terrorist chaos.
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#135
The facts really are not in dispute. It's in the New York Times. Hillary bragged about it.
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#155
Baffling to me when people tout her 'experience'... she's made HORRIFIC mistakes. Unfit.
AzDar
Mar 2016
#130
Saw that email before. Obama should have stood up to the neocons, it was clear to most
sabrina 1
Mar 2016
#132
I honestly think naming Clinton as Secretary of State was Obama's greatest error
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#134
They should have used the money to fix the water pipes in Michigan and Ohio instead
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#140
This is the most legitimate issue possible. Hillary's foreign policy record is a major FAIL
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#141
This is based all on facts out of the New York Times 2 part special report
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#150
One of her supporters laughed at me when I said she lacked judgement, I think this proves me right.
peacebird
Mar 2016
#152
I hope it was just a case a horrible judgement, and not something worse like
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#153