2016 Postmortem

Cheese Sandwich

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118. Turned out awesome huh?

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Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:46 PM

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Newly Released Emails Confirm Clinton is to Blame for Libya Disaster [View all] Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 OP

This email will be the game-changer Sanders supporters are looking for! Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #1

Maybe if the TV news wasn't a department of the Clinton campagin Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #6

Where have you been? Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #10

They still seem to have a lot of influence Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #30

Yes, they certainly do. Duval Mar 2016 #46

Ain't that the truth !!! agracie Mar 2016 #25

Game changer? No. NWCorona Mar 2016 #8

ouch. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #98

Wow, the idea that she "turned Obama around on this" means Hillary *owns* the Libya policy. reformist2 Mar 2016 #101

Have you read her book? NWCorona Mar 2016 #104

Hillary's foreign policy disasters should be a huge topic in this election. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #111

How sweet. You think innocent people being slaughtered hifiguy Mar 2016 #15

Naw. It's pretty well known she sucks at handling foreign policy.... think Mar 2016 #54

It's all cumulative. And Trump will use this. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #74

No. I think HRC will win. I think she'll set the ME further on fire. delrem Mar 2016 #86

You laugh at your own peril nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #96

. Orrex Mar 2016 #97

These people don't worry about anything like that, or care about anything like that. delrem Mar 2016 #99

+1 to everything you've posted in this thread. closeupready Mar 2016 #151

She is going to be an epic disaster Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #2

Of Hindenburg/Titanic proportions. hifiguy Mar 2016 #13

She put rhe US on A fire sale Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #16

She owns Libya NWCorona Mar 2016 #3

Therefore, she owns ISIS... MrMickeysMom Mar 2016 #62

Of course she owns ISIS. Like the House of Saud owns ISIS. delrem Mar 2016 #105

War is good for Wall Street RobertEarl Mar 2016 #4

And how does that make you feel about Clinton supporter? Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #79

well RobertEarl Mar 2016 #83

How old? I'm 61 and that's not old enough! Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #84

Hillary Clinton, wrong on everything. Broward Mar 2016 #5

True. senz Mar 2016 #100

hillary: making isis what it is today in libya, syria, iraq, and beyond. nt restorefreedom Mar 2016 #7

She doesn't get enough credit for that Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #31

she aims to change that imo. nt restorefreedom Mar 2016 #37

She's a Kissinger fangirl. hifiguy Mar 2016 #9

Some of her supporters on DU would like us to believe SOS just does as POTUS says tk2kewl Mar 2016 #11

A problem is her private mail server, to do SOS business, excluded the gov't apparatus. delrem Mar 2016 #109

Excellent points dana_b Mar 2016 #116

Bravo indeed! ISIS needed another safehaven... datguy_6 Mar 2016 #12

+1000 amborin Mar 2016 #163

I would say that she is a disaster waiting to happen nichomachus Mar 2016 #14

kick kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #17

Nice to get a note like that from someone named Slaughter. Wilms Mar 2016 #18

I agree with Slaughter. Serial regime change is exhausting. HRC deserves a rest leveymg Mar 2016 #19

bravo H!!!! wendylaroux Mar 2016 #20

She is drenched in blood from this to her cluster bomb support Arazi Mar 2016 #21

.... rbrnmw Mar 2016 #22

Guess things aren't looking so rosy for Bernie today. zappaman Mar 2016 #23

I know it's sad rbrnmw Mar 2016 #28

Perhaps I missed the "fill in the blank" class ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #154

Wars have consequences. She loves "No-flies". Recipe for everything, incl. starving people in Syria. thereismore Mar 2016 #24

They always want to blow up other countries without regard to the consequences Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #36

K&R agracie Mar 2016 #26

you guys really are stretching it..... chillfactor Mar 2016 #27

Good grief... Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #29

What's your interpretation of the email? -nt Bradical79 Mar 2016 #39

Everyone wanted to play in Libya (and grab up their resources) ghostsinthemachine Mar 2016 #32

New Hillary Clinton Emails Show She Wanted Credit for Libya Intervention in 2011. Now She Doesn’t. UglyGreed Mar 2016 #33

That's interesting thanks. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #34

K & R AzDar Mar 2016 #35

Hillary's reckless bad judgement is the reason ISIS freely roams in Libya & Syria amborin Mar 2016 #38

Sad but true. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #40

A Khadaffy-less Libya is a better Libya Tarc Mar 2016 #41

Nice to see the Republicans don't have a monopoly on low information voters. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #42

Nice to see that there's Democrats who still know how to deal with foreign affairs Tarc Mar 2016 #43

Libya is in chaos. A failed state crawling with ISIS, Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #44

Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #45

What is this, Neo-Con Underground? Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #48

So we go from a problem that was contained nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #51

It was not contained, otherwise it would not be a problem Tarc Mar 2016 #64

Yes, it was contained nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #69

Agan, reading comprehension and a basic unawareness of reality Tarc Mar 2016 #89

Well let me see child, I will take the EMAILS, aka a primary source nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #92

Step 1 implies there's a step 2... Bradical79 Mar 2016 #59

You're really claiming an Libya with ISIS bases is better? jeff47 Mar 2016 #53

six of one, half a dozen of the other Tarc Mar 2016 #55

Well, Qaddafi was contained in Libya. ISIS isn't. jeff47 Mar 2016 #58

The point is whooshing over your head, I'm afraid Tarc Mar 2016 #61

Now you're just trolling Bradical79 Mar 2016 #68

You might want to read this link now nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #82

What The Fuck?? Arazi Mar 2016 #57

"the most progressive and prosperous North African nation" ? Tarc Mar 2016 #88

In comparison to what?? Fucking Sudan?? Arazi Mar 2016 #95

I just gave this person a link to the FOIA room nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #93

Clearly it's not -nt Bradical79 Mar 2016 #67

Before Hillary, Libya was the most advanced country in North Africa. bvar22 Mar 2016 #146

It was a gamble,maybe she thought three's the charm elmac Mar 2016 #47

K&R. nt Duval Mar 2016 #49

Hillary Clinton will still win the Democratic nomination and be elected President. George II Mar 2016 #50

Ya. People love a tough leader who isn't afraid to use the military even if it the wrong thing to do think Mar 2016 #63

Dream on Politicalboi Mar 2016 #80

yes, and she is to blame for ISIS now in Libya and Syria, and the ME in chaos nt amborin Mar 2016 #52

K & R desmiller Mar 2016 #56

She is also to blame for the War of 1812 shenmue Mar 2016 #60

on the Experience question PatrynXX Mar 2016 #65

HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Mar 2016 #66

I must have made a wrong turn and ended up at Freeperville. eom tarheelsunc Mar 2016 #70

Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #71

bulletin: PROOF HRC caused WWII... yeah, it's true, Yes it is. LOL! Recoverin_Republican Mar 2016 #72

You left out an I. notadmblnd Mar 2016 #90

Bookmarking for later. nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #73

What were they working for???????????? hollowdweller Mar 2016 #75

From other material, yes I read it nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #94

People are content to vote for incompetence Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #76

Maybe they just haven't followed this issue Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #113

Did I miss something? Eko Mar 2016 #77

Breaking: Hillary Clinton KILLED CHRIST!!! ... It's true --- Yeah, uh-huh. Recoverin_Republican Mar 2016 #78

They just hid that on you. Eko Mar 2016 #81

She was a complete failure as SOS. Vattel Mar 2016 #85

Foreign policy was supposed to be her strength. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #87

yup Vattel Mar 2016 #103

Hillary on Gadaffi: "We Came....We Saw.....He Died!...A Hearty Laugh... KoKo Mar 2016 #91

Not a game changer. ghostsinthemachine Mar 2016 #102

What country are you talking about and why Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #106

Im lame. ghostsinthemachine Mar 2016 #107

Oh Gotcha Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #108

K & R John Poet Mar 2016 #110

That's true I think it was in her book but this confirms it some more Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #112

So much for all of her "extensive experience"! dana_b Mar 2016 #114

She's the "most qualified" at creating terrorists Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #115

Yep! dana_b Mar 2016 #119

In this thread many Clinton loyalists still defending these policy disasters Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #120

How "Democratic" of them dana_b Mar 2016 #125

The international community was practically begging us to intervene in Libya. randome Mar 2016 #117

Turned out awesome huh? Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #118

No, it did not. That's not the point. randome Mar 2016 #121

The point is reckless use of military power makes things much worse Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #123

How do you know it was 'reckless'? Were you sitting in on the deliberations with the Arab League,... randome Mar 2016 #126

Because the result is chaos, terrorism, a huge refugee crisis, and Africa flooded with US weapons Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #127

The result otherwise would have been chaos, terrorism and Qaddafi's promised 'bloodbath'. randome Mar 2016 #129

Qaddafi was a bad dude but he was no threat Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #131

The difference in Libya is night and day NWCorona Mar 2016 #133

The people he was about to 'bloodbath' might have disagreed that things were so good. randome Mar 2016 #159

And that is a valid point NWCorona Mar 2016 #160

What does "Turning POTUS around on this" mean? EndElectoral Mar 2016 #122

Convincing him to pursue a policy of regime change through force in Libya Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #124

So the assertion is Obama was reluctant to pursue regime change and the SOS "turned him around"? EndElectoral Mar 2016 #128

Exactly. She persuaded him to destroy Libya and now it is a terrorist chaos. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #135

But, fundamentally, do people care? EndElectoral Mar 2016 #137

I honestly think this may be Hillary's greatest weakness. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #156

What a simplistic crock Darb Mar 2016 #139

The facts really are not in dispute. It's in the New York Times. Hillary bragged about it. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #155

Baffling to me when people tout her 'experience'... she's made HORRIFIC mistakes. Unfit. AzDar Mar 2016 #130

Saw that email before. Obama should have stood up to the neocons, it was clear to most sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #132

I honestly think naming Clinton as Secretary of State was Obama's greatest error Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #134

The Libyans did not want the West to be peacekeepers applegrove Mar 2016 #136

They should have used the money to fix the water pipes in Michigan and Ohio instead Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #140

Another collosal shark jump. Darb Mar 2016 #138

This is the most legitimate issue possible. Hillary's foreign policy record is a major FAIL Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #141

You're joking aren't you, you kidder. Darb Mar 2016 #142

Care to explain how Libya is a success? Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #143

Care to explain how Libya is the entire world? Darb Mar 2016 #144

We had to destroy the village to save it? Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #145

One person's opinion. Darb Mar 2016 #147

This is based all on facts out of the New York Times 2 part special report Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #150

The bloodbath did take place and Hillary did take credit jeepers Mar 2016 #149

Just one more set of hearings and indictments Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #148

I think they already said they plan to do just that. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #157

THe only issue will be the Timing of it. Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #161

One of her supporters laughed at me when I said she lacked judgement, I think this proves me right. peacebird Mar 2016 #152

I hope it was just a case a horrible judgement, and not something worse like Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #153

And the sinking of the Titanic! whistler162 Mar 2016 #158

This Libya thing is true though Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #162