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Octafish

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9. Ray got put on a government 'Watch List' after that.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 02:10 PM
Mar 2016

What kind of Democracy is it when those who tell the Truth are considered "Enemies of the State"?





Ex-Spy Vindicated After Protesting Hillary

by Peter Van Buren
Moyers and Company, Sept. 30, 2014

EXCERPT...

McGovern is a changed man. He started out in the Army, then he worked for the CIA from the Kennedy administration up through the first Bush presidency, preparing the president’s daily intel brief. He was a hell of a spy. McGovern began to see the evil of much of the government’s work, and has since become an outspoken critic of the intelligence world and an advocate for free speech. He speaks on behalf of people like Julian Assange, Chelsea Manning and Edward Snowden.

Ray McGovern was put on the State Department’s diplomatic security BOLO list – Be On the Look Out – one of a series of proliferating government watch lists. What McGovern did to end up on diplomatic security’s dangerous persons list and how he got off the list are a tale of our era, post-constitutional America.

Offending the Queen

Ray’s offense was to turn his back on Hillary Clinton, literally.

In 2011, at George Washington University during a public event where Clinton was speaking, McGovern stood up and turned his back to the stage. He did not say a word, or otherwise disrupt anything. University cops grabbed McGovern in a headlock and by his arms, and dragged him out of the auditorium by force, their actions directed from the side by a man whose name is redacted from public records. Photos (above) of the then 71-year-old McGovern taken at the time of his arrest show the multiple bruises and contusions he suffered while being arrested. He was secured to a metal chair with two sets of handcuffs. McGovern was at first refused medical care for the bleeding caused by the handcuffs. It is easy to invoke the words thug, bully, goon.

The charges of disorderly conduct were dropped, McGovern was released and it was determined that he committed no crime.

[font color="green"]But because he had spoken back to power, State’s diplomatic security printed up an actual wanted poster citing McGovern’s “considerable amount of political activism” and “significant notoriety in the national media.” Diplomatic security warned agents should USE CAUTION (their emphasis) when stopping McGovern and conducting the required “field interview.” The poster itself was classified as Sensitive but Unclassified (SBU), one of the multitude of pseudo-secret categories created following 9/11.[/font color]

Violations of the First and Fourth Amendments by State

Subjects of BOLO alerts are considered potential threats to the secretary of state. Their whereabouts are typically tracked to see if they will be in proximity of the secretary. If Diplomatic security sees one of the subjects nearby, they detain and question them. Other government agencies and local police are always notified. The alert is a standing directive that the subject be stopped and seized in the absence of reasonable suspicion or probable cause that he is committing an offense. Stop him for being him. These directives slash across the Fourth Amendment’s prohibitions against unwarranted search and seizure, as well as the First Amendment’s right to free speech, as the stops typically occur around protests.

CONTINUED...

http://billmoyers.com/2014/09/30/watchlists-fourth-amendment/



The answer to Who Is Enemy and Who Is NOT Enemy is classified Top Secret or stored in somebody's server somewhere.

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If you're not worried about where we're going.... daleanime Mar 2016 #1
Renowned photojournalist assaulted by US Secret Service at Trump rally 2016 Octafish Mar 2016 #5
we were all shocked when Bush started giving us the "60s Brazil" treatment MisterP Mar 2016 #12
LBJ! LBJ! LBJ! Octafish Mar 2016 #29
I'm depressingly worried. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #34
But she's such a sweet and loving person nichomachus Mar 2016 #2
Forgiving, too. Octafish Mar 2016 #7
kick kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #3
Ray got put on a government 'Watch List' after that. Octafish Mar 2016 #9
Horrendous... Hilary is dangerous... kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #10
Not just her: that is the scary part... eom Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #35
Authoritarians call themselves everything, including Democrat. The third way is not our friend. haikugal Mar 2016 #4
+1 daleanime Mar 2016 #11
Authoritarians all share one trait in common... Octafish Mar 2016 #18
Thanks for this. I get so angry when I realize how long this has been going on. haikugal Mar 2016 #20
I very much appreciate your years of research. madfloridian Mar 2016 #32
he's just a decorated veteran; one of the little people, and they don't matter amborin Mar 2016 #6
Remember Cindy Sheehan? Octafish Mar 2016 #27
yes, that whole episode was heartbreaking; and bush so sociopathic amborin Mar 2016 #30
K&R for the original post and subsequent informative posts and links. JEB Mar 2016 #8
Saving USA from the United Stasi of America Octafish Mar 2016 #45
What an appalling thread!!! erlewyne Mar 2016 #13
One does not mess with Lady Macbeth. Fuddnik Mar 2016 #14
Did Hillary condemn his mistreatment and removed him from any threat list? Vattel Mar 2016 #15
I feel for Tulsi Gabbard for being courageous as well SheenaR Mar 2016 #16
What a shame. (This was in 2011, you say?) NurseJackie Mar 2016 #17
2011 at George Washington University for the real DU reality-based community NurseJackie. bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #21
Hillary Clinton says "supporting veterans is a sacred responsibility", so why, after five years, bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #19
That no-good bearded old crumb bum wrecked her speech, bobthedrummer. Octafish Mar 2016 #28
Ex-Spy Vindicated After Protesting Hillary (Peter Van Buren 9-30-2014 Bill Moyers&Co.) bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #22
k/r. VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #23
Among other things he helped to prevent WWIII during his CIA employment and cofounded VIPS. n/t bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #24
Unfriending Mubarak Capt. Obvious Mar 2016 #25
They must have been in on the IPO. Octafish Mar 2016 #38
Kick warrprayer Mar 2016 #26
During the War on Terror/Post-9-11 world, merely knowing this makes one an Enemy of the State Octafish Mar 2016 #37
Thanks warrprayer Mar 2016 #49
K & R AzDar Mar 2016 #31
What's this have to do with hillary, it was Ray McGovern who refused to sit down or leave BlueStateLib Mar 2016 #33
Why would he have to do either in the first place? Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #36
Why did Bernie have protesters arrested at his office in the 90s? JaneyVee Mar 2016 #41
Scraping the bottom of the barrel, are we? Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #42
Scraping at double standards, are we? JaneyVee Mar 2016 #44
Your retorts are much like Clinton's campaign: lame attempts to copy the other side's words, Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #46
I remember that, I almost cried for him. polly7 Mar 2016 #39
What about the antiwar protesters Bernie had arrested at his office in the 90s? JaneyVee Mar 2016 #40
Were they beaten and bruised too, or is that reserved for those standing up to The Annointed One? Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #43
So, Hillary, came down off the stage and strong-armed that man out of the venue? nt Jitter65 Mar 2016 #47
No. The guards did. Octafish Mar 2016 #48
Publications of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity/VIPS (WarIsACrime) kick bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #50
J Edgar Hoover with Supercomputers Octafish Mar 2016 #53
One doesn't turn one's back on Claire Underwood. nt valerief Mar 2016 #51
Orwell is rolling in his grave laughing his a%& off. nt kristopher Mar 2016 #52
Recommended interview with Ray McGovern by Cinema Libre. proverbialwisdom May 2016 #54
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