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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Ray McGovern got ''The Treatment'' protesting Hillary speech in 2011 [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)9. Ray got put on a government 'Watch List' after that.
What kind of Democracy is it when those who tell the Truth are considered "Enemies of the State"?
Ex-Spy Vindicated After Protesting Hillary
by Peter Van Buren
Moyers and Company, Sept. 30, 2014
EXCERPT...
McGovern is a changed man. He started out in the Army, then he worked for the CIA from the Kennedy administration up through the first Bush presidency, preparing the presidents daily intel brief. He was a hell of a spy. McGovern began to see the evil of much of the governments work, and has since become an outspoken critic of the intelligence world and an advocate for free speech. He speaks on behalf of people like Julian Assange, Chelsea Manning and Edward Snowden.
Ray McGovern was put on the State Departments diplomatic security BOLO list Be On the Look Out one of a series of proliferating government watch lists. What McGovern did to end up on diplomatic securitys dangerous persons list and how he got off the list are a tale of our era, post-constitutional America.
Offending the Queen
Rays offense was to turn his back on Hillary Clinton, literally.
In 2011, at George Washington University during a public event where Clinton was speaking, McGovern stood up and turned his back to the stage. He did not say a word, or otherwise disrupt anything. University cops grabbed McGovern in a headlock and by his arms, and dragged him out of the auditorium by force, their actions directed from the side by a man whose name is redacted from public records. Photos (above) of the then 71-year-old McGovern taken at the time of his arrest show the multiple bruises and contusions he suffered while being arrested. He was secured to a metal chair with two sets of handcuffs. McGovern was at first refused medical care for the bleeding caused by the handcuffs. It is easy to invoke the words thug, bully, goon.
The charges of disorderly conduct were dropped, McGovern was released and it was determined that he committed no crime.
[font color="green"]But because he had spoken back to power, States diplomatic security printed up an actual wanted poster citing McGoverns considerable amount of political activism and significant notoriety in the national media. Diplomatic security warned agents should USE CAUTION (their emphasis) when stopping McGovern and conducting the required field interview. The poster itself was classified as Sensitive but Unclassified (SBU), one of the multitude of pseudo-secret categories created following 9/11.[/font color]
Violations of the First and Fourth Amendments by State
Subjects of BOLO alerts are considered potential threats to the secretary of state. Their whereabouts are typically tracked to see if they will be in proximity of the secretary. If Diplomatic security sees one of the subjects nearby, they detain and question them. Other government agencies and local police are always notified. The alert is a standing directive that the subject be stopped and seized in the absence of reasonable suspicion or probable cause that he is committing an offense. Stop him for being him. These directives slash across the Fourth Amendments prohibitions against unwarranted search and seizure, as well as the First Amendments right to free speech, as the stops typically occur around protests.
CONTINUED...
http://billmoyers.com/2014/09/30/watchlists-fourth-amendment/
The answer to Who Is Enemy and Who Is NOT Enemy is classified Top Secret or stored in somebody's server somewhere.
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Ray McGovern got ''The Treatment'' protesting Hillary speech in 2011 [View all]
Octafish
Mar 2016
OP
Authoritarians call themselves everything, including Democrat. The third way is not our friend.
haikugal
Mar 2016
#4
Thanks for this. I get so angry when I realize how long this has been going on.
haikugal
Mar 2016
#20
2011 at George Washington University for the real DU reality-based community NurseJackie.
bobthedrummer
Mar 2016
#21
Hillary Clinton says "supporting veterans is a sacred responsibility", so why, after five years,
bobthedrummer
Mar 2016
#19
Ex-Spy Vindicated After Protesting Hillary (Peter Van Buren 9-30-2014 Bill Moyers&Co.)
bobthedrummer
Mar 2016
#22
Among other things he helped to prevent WWIII during his CIA employment and cofounded VIPS. n/t
bobthedrummer
Mar 2016
#24
During the War on Terror/Post-9-11 world, merely knowing this makes one an Enemy of the State
Octafish
Mar 2016
#37
What's this have to do with hillary, it was Ray McGovern who refused to sit down or leave
BlueStateLib
Mar 2016
#33
Your retorts are much like Clinton's campaign: lame attempts to copy the other side's words,
Betty Karlson
Mar 2016
#46
What about the antiwar protesters Bernie had arrested at his office in the 90s?
JaneyVee
Mar 2016
#40
Were they beaten and bruised too, or is that reserved for those standing up to The Annointed One?
Betty Karlson
Mar 2016
#43
So, Hillary, came down off the stage and strong-armed that man out of the venue? nt
Jitter65
Mar 2016
#47
Publications of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity/VIPS (WarIsACrime) kick
bobthedrummer
Mar 2016
#50