2016 Postmortem

Octafish

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37. During the War on Terror/Post-9-11 world, merely knowing this makes one an Enemy of the State

Reply to warrprayer (Reply #26)

Fri Mar 4, 2016, 09:14 AM

Mar 2016

I think this is the gist of the missing text:

The old-timey wanted poster State’s Diplomatic Security printed up cites McGovern’s “considerable amount of political activism” and “significant notoriety in the national media” as if those points were somehow relevant to his inclusion on the watch list. Though McGovern is a thin man, age 75 with no history of violence, Diplomatic Security warns that its agents should USE CAUTION (their emphasis) when stopping McGovern and conducting the required “field interview.”

SOURCE: Peter Van Buren
http://wemeantwell.com/blog/2014/02/24/government-watch-lists-ray-mcgovern-and-post-constitutional-america/

I'd say it's like living Kafka, but, you know.

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