2016 Postmortem

Human101948

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63. So you are fine with elitists ignoring the will of the people?

Reply to upaloopa (Reply #60)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:40 PM

Mar 2016

They are also a fraction of Americans.

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Every single New York super delegate we contacted said they will vote for Hillary even if Bernie win [View all] kgnu_fan Mar 2016 OP

How very democratic of them Fairgo Mar 2016 #1

The DNC has no idea how pissed off this kind of crap makes the average American peacebird Mar 2016 #14

Pissed off enough to not vote. jwirr Mar 2016 #38

No Bernie folks are not the average American upaloopa Mar 2016 #60

So you are fine with elitists ignoring the will of the people? Human101948 Mar 2016 #63

I don't respond to "So" upaloopa Mar 2016 #72

Your position is indefensible, so you cannot provide an answer... Human101948 Mar 2016 #73

I am not impressed with you either upaloopa Mar 2016 #84

Which is why we hounded by 'loyalty oaths'.... daleanime Mar 2016 #82

These Dirtballs Want To Play The Corporatist Tune Then We The People Will Have "Options" Too! CorporatistNation Mar 2016 #68

If they do that, people will refuse to vote in protest. Hello President Stump! n/t PonyUp Mar 2016 #2

But Sarandon (or anyone here) never suggested that! bettyellen Mar 2016 #44

She suggested precisely that Prism Mar 2016 #49

She smiled and laughed while talking about a "collapse" to "bring on the revolution". bettyellen Mar 2016 #50

I watched the interview twice Prism Mar 2016 #54

From supposed feminists. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #59

If I said any of those things about Sarandon- you both might have a point. But it is a lie to bettyellen Mar 2016 #62

There is no stoning quite as satisfying as that of a heretic Prism Mar 2016 #79

I love all the gamer and fantasy fiction references. Not really. bettyellen Mar 2016 #85

Maybe check with your friends Prism Mar 2016 #90

Agreed this campaign season has taught me a lot nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #89

I haven't done any of that shaming, she is just another actor to me. Her success? Nope- bettyellen Mar 2016 #61

I would expect you would speak up in her defense Prism Mar 2016 #80

You think I support anything any woman does? That shit is a crazy cartoon version of feminism I bettyellen Mar 2016 #83

And there are the vocab words Prism Mar 2016 #92

She smiled and laughed while talking about a "collapse" to "bring on the revolution". and mused bettyellen Mar 2016 #94

You didn't address a single point Prism Mar 2016 #95

They do the same with race. PoC are great nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #97

But you are lying in that I went after her in a sexist way. I did not- so this conversation -- bettyellen Mar 2016 #101

I never said you did Prism Mar 2016 #102

Not sure why you and Nadin lectured me about what OTHER people were saying- instead of bettyellen Mar 2016 #105

You claim to be fiercely pro-woman Prism Mar 2016 #113

LOL riversedge Mar 2016 #57

We have people reading from a few different scripts. Now I attacked her for "her rack" - bettyellen Mar 2016 #64

I have no idea. Perhaps you posted to wrong person. riversedge Mar 2016 #76

The wrong people - "who have welcomed me to ignore" a half dozen times chimed in.... bettyellen Mar 2016 #77

It will get ugly if that's the case. Very ugly. nt nc4bo Mar 2016 #3

You're talking about the NYS DEM Party machine: Smarmie Doofus Mar 2016 #8

You've told Alan Grayson to support Hillary Clinton...right? brooklynite Mar 2016 #4

And Grijalva and Kaptur. N/t KitSileya Mar 2016 #12

Erin Bilbray from Nevada won't back Clinton even though Clinton won her state. #hypocrites nt CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #56

Good! Firebrand Gary Mar 2016 #5

Exactly. It's only free will when they vote the way they're 'supposed' to vote. randome Mar 2016 #7

Sounds like Catholicism. "Here's free will, followed by a list of stuff you're not free to do." nt CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #58

So why do we bother with elections? mucifer Mar 2016 #6

The unDemocratic "Democratic" Party RiverLover Mar 2016 #9

Great! NY Super Delegates declare war on their voters... Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #10

The 'Not Hillary' Party is preparing a CONSPIRACY to explain their massive loss in New York. onehandle Mar 2016 #11

WTF? Seriously? Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #17

They're blind to everything Politicalboi Mar 2016 #71

LOL @ the hypocrisy of all of this firebrand80 Mar 2016 #13

An honest solution would be for the super delegates to also vote proportionally Armstead Mar 2016 #28

Maybe firebrand80 Mar 2016 #35

It kind of takes the democratic out of Democratic Party. Vinca Mar 2016 #15

++++++ditto marions ghost Mar 2016 #20

+ another one nt riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #34

freaking outrageous Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #16

Go tell Tad Devine how undemocratic his system is. rbrnmw Mar 2016 #18

He's responsible for proportional respresentation of delegates only riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #33

If the superdelegates override the will of the voters EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #19

yes they will dana_b Mar 2016 #24

how sad is it restorefreedom Mar 2016 #21

Shaun King: It's not just Donald Trump who is a bigot, it's half of this country w/ a HUGE % of Dem kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #22

we are rapidly descending....very scary times. nt restorefreedom Mar 2016 #23

corrupting from inside, the most painful kind of death... kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #29

yes, like a cancer. nt restorefreedom Mar 2016 #36

untrue. they do everything they can to disenfranchise Dem voters. bettyellen Mar 2016 #47

yes, true, and it seems to be spreading to the dem side restorefreedom Mar 2016 #86

they have a mean GOTV operation, and stick together. do they have many caucuses? bettyellen Mar 2016 #87

i think they do have caucuses, but from what i have seen, restorefreedom Mar 2016 #91

I really want fair national standards, and alternative methods for voting. Oregon does say mail in bettyellen Mar 2016 #93

yes, we need to be making voting more possible and accessible restorefreedom Mar 2016 #98

they make it complicated all right. locally they always used to "look up" my registration in the bettyellen Mar 2016 #100

If superdelegates override the will of the people Generic Other Mar 2016 #25

A lot of the outrage stems from the fact that someone at the DNC Buns_of_Fire Mar 2016 #26

That is the first issue. We had all kinds of endorsements jwirr Mar 2016 #39

It's time to ditch delegates and screw the system pinebox Mar 2016 #27

"I'll never be a Dem". Well, then, your complaints about how the Dem Party works won't be heard. randome Mar 2016 #31

Actually they will & loudly pinebox Mar 2016 #32

"Both parties are bleeding" means that you "bleeders" can start your own party. randome Mar 2016 #48

ditch the caucuses all together- too many people cannot spend hours just to vote. bettyellen Mar 2016 #46

Good! She is going to win here anyway. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #30

Good. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #37

It's only what their corporate masters pay them to do. Business as usual. nt Zorra Mar 2016 #40

this will be the end of the Dem party; totally un-democratic; our nation is in deep crisis; amborin Mar 2016 #41

How many did NYDN contact? GeorgeGist Mar 2016 #42

It will be the end of the Dem party for sure if Bernie wins. That's what he wants. He said so. nt Jitter65 Mar 2016 #43

And end to corporatist ass kissers wing of the party? Human101948 Mar 2016 #66

He won't win the state. nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #45

Let them do it. Maedhros Mar 2016 #51

It won't be an issue for the simple reason that Sanders won't win NY. Beacool Mar 2016 #52

Are you comfortable with those delegates who are sticking with Hillary where Bernie won? Human101948 Mar 2016 #65

I'm not worried about it until the convention. Beacool Mar 2016 #67

So that makes it okay? Human101948 Mar 2016 #69

It is, what it is. Beacool Mar 2016 #75

And it is broken. nt Land of Enchantment Mar 2016 #114

What about superdelegates for Sanders from states that Clinton won? No double standards please. CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #70

Oh, is the fix in? senz Mar 2016 #103

Small problem with your premise. Beacool Mar 2016 #108

Small problem with your reading comprehension. senz Mar 2016 #110

I can read perfectly well, thank you. Beacool Mar 2016 #115

Seems to be a small problem with your premise senz Mar 2016 #117

If they follow through, this is the kind of thing we Bernie supporters need to use BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #53

I wouldn't expect them to switch to Sanders if he only pulls out a majority in *that state*. Marr Mar 2016 #55

if she manages to pull this off Merryland Mar 2016 #74

Important point. senz Mar 2016 #116

Their party, their privilege. n/t Orsino Mar 2016 #78

"The point is to allow the superdelegates to overturn the will of the people if they want to." CentralCoaster Mar 2016 #81

The Democratic Party is not a democratic party Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #88

people don't like being berated by lunatics at 3 am rbrnmw Mar 2016 #96

We are no longer We the People. Now we are We the Superdelegates. jillan Mar 2016 #99

As if the fix was in. Octafish Mar 2016 #104

OMG is that George Wallace? That sure as hell isn't Lurleen next to him..where did you find this Land of Enchantment Mar 2016 #111

Michael Beschloss checked it out... Octafish Mar 2016 #112

Wowsers. Your mom is a wise lady--reminds me of something about an apple and the tree Land of Enchantment Mar 2016 #118

Wonder how she got them to give up any pretense of democracy? senz Mar 2016 #106

I just spent an hour trying to find a video of Donna Brazile's response to Bill Press Land of Enchantment Mar 2016 #107

Donna Brazille can barely Funtatlaguy Mar 2016 #109

That's pretty much what I'm hearing here, Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #119

Discouraging as hell... HughLefty1 Mar 2016 #122

This is a state dominated by financial services.. speaktruthtopower Mar 2016 #120

Didn't they make changes to the delegate rules during the primary season in 2008? beedle Mar 2016 #121