2016 Postmortem

Jitter65

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13. When Hawaiians and Asians have been relentlessly discriminated against socially and economically

Reply to Ken Burch (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:00 AM

Mar 2016

like African Americans...wake me up.

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Privilege Is What Allows Clinton Supporters to Keep Supporting Her [View all] Katashi_itto Mar 2016 OP

I'm guessing that the African American voters of Mississippi and Alabama, who voted for Tanuki Mar 2016 #1

I'm guessing that the minority voters of Hawaii, who voted for Lazy Daisy Mar 2016 #4

I have never, ever said or implied anything of the kind, so don't dump this crap on ME. Tanuki Mar 2016 #6

OK then...admit that Hawaii puts the "only white folks vote for Bernie" meme to rest. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #9

When Hawaiians and Asians have been relentlessly discriminated against socially and economically Jitter65 Mar 2016 #13

They have been. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #24

US history does not seem to be a subject that HRC supporters notadmblnd Mar 2016 #37

You are absolutely right about Hawaii brush Mar 2016 #53

We agree that HRC won big in the South. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #87

Who was suggesting Sanders pull out? brush Mar 2016 #105

Point of fact: Hawaii was a nation, a Kingdom belonging to the Hawaiians. Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #26

Yet certain folks have a fit if Mexico gets an auto plant. Hoyt Mar 2016 #33

they had their kingdom stolen and their rights buried. they roguevalley Mar 2016 #79

Does the internment of Japanese Americans count, or was that not enough suffering for you? jfern Apr 2016 #165

Let's see, Hillary is white, and very very wealthy. Bohunk68 Mar 2016 #10

You kinda just did, you should apologize and move on. /nt Dragonfli Mar 2016 #11

I kinda didn't, so cut the crap. Any response to my actual post? Tanuki Mar 2016 #15

I read the post you replied to and the post you posted and denial and evasion will not Dragonfli Mar 2016 #18

So you think that African American voters in Mississippi and Alabama voted overwhelmingly Tanuki Mar 2016 #25

I was referring to post #4, the rest of your words, have been placed in my text by you, I do not see Dragonfli Mar 2016 #31

At this point I have no idea what your point is, if you indeed have one. I did not write post#4. Tanuki Mar 2016 #36

It is quite simple, why you have such a hard time following it eludes me, I responded to Dragonfli Mar 2016 #39

Got it. You prefer to respond to what somewhat falsely implied that I said, than to the reality Tanuki Mar 2016 #41

I responded because of your disregard of an entire underprivileged race and bullying yes Dragonfli Mar 2016 #43

Sorry, you are the one doing the bullying. The OP is about Hillary supporters' Tanuki Mar 2016 #46

LOL Hillary supporters are PACS and Billianaires, and among the income Demographic voting wise Dragonfli Mar 2016 #52

Still not addressing what I actually said, only escalating the invective....eom Tanuki Mar 2016 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Burch Mar 2016 #35

"Privilege Is What Allows Clinton Supporters to Keep Supporting Her" Tanuki Mar 2016 #40

Wait what? ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #59

I've proved that Bernie never treated AA issues as secondary. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #85

No ... You have said said it over and over and over again ... You have proved nothing! ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #96

Obviously MLK and Malcolm put the fight against racism first. Obviously they were right to do so. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #121

That is a wall of words ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #122

What I wrote proves that Bernie treats racism as just as important as economic justice. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #126

No ... Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #127

You should apologize and edit this, Ken. It's Stockholm Syndrome all over again. bettyellen Mar 2016 #72

Not at all. I wasn't claiming that anybody identified with their oppressors. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #82

You claimed they vote thoughtlessly. bettyellen Mar 2016 #86

People on the left have been in solidarity with indigenous Hawaiians for decades now. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #88

Maybe it's frustrating because you imagine people hate Bernie.... bettyellen Mar 2016 #89

I've seen months and months of snide, hateful, rage-filled posts directed towards him. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #90

Bernie was very late to add his social justice issues to his web site and stump bettyellen Mar 2016 #92

This is really, really insulting. When will you people learn? lunamagica Mar 2016 #75

I insulted no one. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #91

You don't think this is insulting? lunamagica Mar 2016 #95

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #128

This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Burch Apr 2016 #134

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #142

She didn't offer AA voters anything superior in terms of policies. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #144

There African-American voters beg to differ. But thank you for your uninformed ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #145

I realize they differ and that is their call. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #146

Thank you ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #147

so so....SOMETHING steve2470 Apr 2016 #149

If posting a pic of a laughing monkey ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #150

what ??????? steve2470 Apr 2016 #151

Nope ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #153

found it... steve2470 Apr 2016 #154

SMBDH. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #155

Wow. NuclearDem Apr 2016 #152

I don't have leaders who "told" me what to do... onpatrol98 Apr 2016 #159

Obviously black people think for themselves. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #160

Fine, black people think for themselves... onpatrol98 Apr 2016 #162

This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Burch Apr 2016 #163

Painful... onpatrol98 Apr 2016 #164

"I should cry. Because supposedly you're what we have as an ally." Number23 Apr 2016 #168

This bravenak Apr 2016 #161

Are you saying that only AA's support HRC? notadmblnd Mar 2016 #38

Nope. Neither said it nor implied it. Tanuki Mar 2016 #48

Yes it is implied notadmblnd Mar 2016 #49

You can make whatever projections you want and need to make, but try not to confuse them Tanuki Mar 2016 #50

And so does yours notadmblnd Mar 2016 #51

I think they did what all voters do and voted from a position of hope roguevalley Mar 2016 #80

First of all, it is silly to think that the margin would have anything close to that large if StevieM Apr 2016 #131

Low information voters vote against their best interests ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #29

LOL - go with that arugment leftynyc Mar 2016 #54

Are you suggesting that HRC voters are "lower informed" and lesser "educated" ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #61

As they become informed they switch AgingAmerican Mar 2016 #97

Yeah ... okay. HRC +2.6 Million. 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #98

Name recognition will only carry you so far AgingAmerican Mar 2016 #100

Yeah ... Okay. 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #101

I thought you knew by now, that if you are ill informed, a white person will come along Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #129

I know ... What would poor little ole, ig'nant, me do without white folks setting me straight! ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #138

In America, all that does make you equal to a first year junior college white guy, sad to say Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #140

The quip, frequently attributed to Brother Malcolm, comes to mind here!... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #143

You may think you are informed, but if your input sources are bunk- then your "information" is bunk snooper2 Mar 2016 #69

well said. Esp. about counterpunch.. I am riversedge Apr 2016 #118

I want Bernie to win not because he is a 'stronger' candidate in the GE but because his policies are pampango Mar 2016 #2

So the overwhelming preference of Americans in general including the people in synergie Mar 2016 #3

Does Hillary? I'd appreciate your supporting that clai snowy owl Mar 2016 #14

Thank you, synergie. sheshe2 Mar 2016 #106

Excellent post BainsBane Mar 2016 #107

Thank you! DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #110

+1,000,000 n/t cosmicone Mar 2016 #111

A totally AWESOME and righteous rant!!! NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #116

Awesome, synergie! brer cat Apr 2016 #120

No, privilege is.... Bobbie Jo Mar 2016 #5

Yep, staying home in November, or "letting it happen on purpose" by a vanity vote for a spoiler, Tanuki Mar 2016 #7

And boom goes the dynamite...nt SidDithers Mar 2016 #21

Yep. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #57

That's some serious nonsense. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #8

What an argument. You agree a Trump win is a disaster then argue Democrats should allow others to seabeyond Mar 2016 #12

Huh? snowy owl Mar 2016 #16

"Privilege".........did you look that up? Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #17

I am in a state that had Piyush Jindal for Gov, who has fiscally wrecked LA. for generations. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #67

"Take your Privilege and shove it."~Katashi_itto Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #71

I fail to see what a vapid meme has to do with the corrupt excesses of Clinton ignored Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #73

Trump a monster? According to whom? The corporate media? snowy owl Mar 2016 #19

+++ 1000 marions ghost Mar 2016 #63

All us privileged minority voters throwing up roadblocks to the young white male revolution. nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #20

Another quixotic post. What does that mean? Spike lee included? snowy owl Mar 2016 #23

Clinton has the vast majority of the non-white vote. I know it hurts, but its a fact. nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #28

So what? What does that have to do with this post? snowy owl Mar 2016 #45

In what twisted Berniebro world are minorities, the core of Clinton's support, privileged? LexVegas Mar 2016 #47

Nobody called them privileged. You totally misunderstand the post. snowy owl Mar 2016 #93

It occurs to me that you may not understand the term "privilege" snowy owl Mar 2016 #94

Whiteness carries privilege BainsBane Apr 2016 #113

Of course it does. You still don't understand that there is privilege on both sides. snowy owl Apr 2016 #117

I support who I damn well please BainsBane Apr 2016 #119

Fine. That's exactly what I said. We are both privileged, aren't we? snowy owl Apr 2016 #135

Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #78

DAMN you nailed it. Nailed it to the fucking wall Number23 Apr 2016 #148

Posted to for more displays of projection. 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #22

LOL Hoyt Mar 2016 #34

+ 1 JoePhilly Mar 2016 #44

Hey~ sheshe2 Mar 2016 #109

Straight Privilege Personified: Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #27

Can they pile the b******* any higher or have it be any smellier? Dem2 Mar 2016 #30

You are actually right - and it is on both sides. snowy owl Mar 2016 #99

Clinton is the best choice for continued corporate looting of the world. raouldukelives Mar 2016 #32

Privilege - this word is being grossly overused these days. It's getting very tiresome! beaglelover Mar 2016 #42

Indeed. apnu Mar 2016 #58

Privilege has jumped the shark. Ace Rothstein Mar 2016 #60

ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY!!!!! beaglelover Mar 2016 #74

I agree, especially when they put a qualifier/adjective in front of it. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #124

It sucks when 3 million more privileged oligarchs vote for Clinton cosmicone Mar 2016 #56

It's the other way round clearly treestar Mar 2016 #62

;) sheshe2 Apr 2016 #112

If your premise had merit I would agree with you Haveadream Mar 2016 #64

It's quite simply the "I got mine" mindset of a fiscal conservative. nt NorthCarolina Mar 2016 #65

OH yeah. BIG time. K&R closeupready Mar 2016 #66

And another thing: "privilege" is voting for the pro-oligarch nominee, closeupready Mar 2016 #68

Believe it or not, HRC's pill-cutting Boomer supporters are more privileged than Bernie's Millenials obamneycare Mar 2016 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author felix_numinous Mar 2016 #76

really? MFM008 Mar 2016 #77

Lookee we have the usual RW argument of "free stuff" Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #81

Yea, well it isn't free if my tax money has to pay for it now is it? leftofcool Apr 2016 #157

Lol! Thats got to be the most simple minded excuse for using a RW argument I have Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #167

I'd say it's math. Adrahil Mar 2016 #83

+1 quantumjunkie Mar 2016 #84

for your viewing pleasure, Mbrow Mar 2016 #102

Nuh uh, according to ppl here is my master/slave relationship. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #103

I agree bravenak Apr 2016 #115

that's BS. i'm supporting her and i'm DesertFlower Mar 2016 #104

This is really a slap in the face of so many poor and low middle income people across the south Jitter65 Mar 2016 #108

Poor and low middle income people in MOST states auntpurl Apr 2016 #123

which makes no sense, since the less-progressive candidate Ken Burch Apr 2016 #130

Quit telling POC what to do, and lecturing them as to why they are wrong, it is harming Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #132

They can do what they want. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #136

Was it you who said POC do what their leaders tell them to do? Long thread, wanna make Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #137

In the South, everybody seems to do that. I didn't mean to single out POC. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #139

We need election process reform in the worst way. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #125

Someone in another thread was bemoaning their having to pay $30000 under Bernie's tax plan. frylock Apr 2016 #114

How much do you have to make to pay that much in his changed taxes holy shit nt VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #141

Shame on your post. Voting preferences have nothing to do with "privilege." StevieM Apr 2016 #133

This is privilege Politicalboi Apr 2016 #156

K&R. Hillary is by far the weaker candidate. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #158

Knock off the discussion of privilege DemocracyDirect Apr 2016 #166

kick amborin Apr 2016 #169