2016 Postmortem

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59. Yes...please do!

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If Sanders runs as an independent, do you think he would win? [View all] TheProgressive Apr 2016 OP

No, I think then Trump would win. nt. Nonhlanhla Apr 2016 #1

I agree. Hopefully he won't do that. Arkansas Granny Apr 2016 #13

It would likely split the D's and ensure a Trump win, which is, of course, why Trump RKP5637 Apr 2016 #166

Not sure I am in complete agreement rpannier Apr 2016 #86

Bernie running as an Independent in November... GoldenThunder Apr 2016 #141

Yes. But. LWolf Apr 2016 #184

I find it ironic Nonhlanhla Apr 2016 #186

Nope. LWolf Apr 2016 #198

You should be. nt Nonhlanhla Apr 2016 #199

You're recognition of irony LWolf Apr 2016 #200

The ball is in Hillary's hands. She must reach out to Bernie supporters to earn their votes. Dustlawyer Apr 2016 #205

Theres not enough white vote to split between him and Trump. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #2

Hillary and Trump will split the conservative vote ozone_man Apr 2016 #68

^Bingo casperthegm Apr 2016 #73

When was the last time a third party candidate got any electoral votes? HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #107

I agree! Bernie knows what would happen. He has no interest in splitting the D party and giving RKP5637 Apr 2016 #168

No way in hell. He's be a spoiling asshole without ballot access in many key states. PeaceNikki Apr 2016 #3

I do think Sanders would win, because ... Baobab Apr 2016 #108

No he doesn't win. Agschmid Apr 2016 #4

Fuck no, 'Not Hillary' Party. onehandle Apr 2016 #5

Not according to many HRC supporters on this site. TowneshipRebellion Apr 2016 #106

Don't listen to them, Listen to Bernie emulatorloo Apr 2016 #119

Please do show where any of that was ever said by anyone on this site. Thank you in advance. Squinch Apr 2016 #202

He'll have my vote Carolina Apr 2016 #6

Lol. Ok. n/t JTFrog Apr 2016 #7

I'll vote for him, if he runs I. grntuscarora Apr 2016 #8

No. morningfog Apr 2016 #9

Got to overcome election fraud NowSam Apr 2016 #10

You understand he has to win an absolute majority of Electoral votes? Not just more than the others brooklynite Apr 2016 #11

I'm frustrated by how few people understand that. Chan790 Apr 2016 #128

Yes, with the Independents and Republicans that support him he could win (eom) Samantha Apr 2016 #12

Sanders is a socialist. No republicans will support him. brush Apr 2016 #127

He is a Democratic Socialist who attracts 25 percent of the Republican vote in Vermont (eom) Samantha Apr 2016 #138

in a alternate reality maybe, in this world, not a chance nt Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #14

Why would you say that? TheProgressive Apr 2016 #32

because if he runs third party, the vote where sanders beats trump is no longer sanders Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #52

'If I don't understand"... TheProgressive Apr 2016 #60

not trying to be obnoxious...I know that math is not everyone's strength Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #63

Not trying is right. Loudestlib Apr 2016 #101

Run along n/t Godhumor Apr 2016 #15

No. He would be vetted. He would have to give up taxes. His campaign finances would be investigated seabeyond Apr 2016 #16

He would be fully vetted in a week and would come out clean as a whistle. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #26

No he wouldn't. seabeyond Apr 2016 #44

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #54

He couldn't even handle one basic vetting interview by the NYDN. R B Garr Apr 2016 #178

Maybe as he won't have to worry about closed systems but he won't run nt NWCorona Apr 2016 #17

No, it would pretty much seal a republican win. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #18

No, Trump would win. tammywammy Apr 2016 #19

Depends on what's more important; history, or fairness and equality. nt cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #20

I think Yes. Trump and HRC are two polarizing and really hated candidates. Jackilope Apr 2016 #21

+1 artislife Apr 2016 #97

+2 northernsouthern Apr 2016 #180

no he would lose sabbat hunter Apr 2016 #22

No way in hell. qdouble Apr 2016 #23

I would have thought promoting a third party here violates DU TOS Gomez163 Apr 2016 #24

Na, all the cool kids are doing it! JoePhilly Apr 2016 #35

It is, but they don't seem to enforce the TOS during the primaries? n/t musicblind Apr 2016 #47

Look who's fretting about ToS. bvf Apr 2016 #172

I don't know, but I really hope he stays a Democrat mvd Apr 2016 #25

Stays a democrat? He never has been a Democrat. nt COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #93

No. He is running for the Democratic nomination mvd Apr 2016 #94

That's actually questionable. I've never heard or seen anything COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #174

He's not a Socialist. Turin_C3PO Apr 2016 #190

The last I knew, he was described in the Senate as "Bernie Sanders, Socialist". COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #194

He was an Independent from 1979-2015. Turin_C3PO Apr 2016 #195

OK. Independent. In no case has he ever described himself COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #197

Trump could win, but Clinton probably would SCantiGOP Apr 2016 #27

There is one unlikely way he could win: Chasstev365 Apr 2016 #28

Someone earlier pointed out to me that this scenario throws the election to the house. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #33

I don't think that is correct... TheProgressive Apr 2016 #45

from archives.gov lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #61

The number 270 is nowhere in the Constitution... TheProgressive Apr 2016 #70

the constitution say 51% of electoral votes, i.e. 270 jg10003 Apr 2016 #92

Nope. One candidate needs a majority, or it goes to the House (the *new* House, in fact) Recursion Apr 2016 #136

That's exactly Urchin Apr 2016 #71

I saw that one play out with my inlaws... Lars39 Apr 2016 #161

The west coast, maybe. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #29

May or may no. 99Forever Apr 2016 #30

14k+ posts, and ... Tortmaster Apr 2016 #142

Yes I have. 99Forever Apr 2016 #144

No. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #31

Yes. Unicorn Apr 2016 #34

Yes AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #36

Trump in a walk Gman Apr 2016 #37

Zero chance...would give gop the Whitehouse and destroy America beachbum bob Apr 2016 #38

Hyperbole. Joe the Revelator Apr 2016 #40

Reality...math still shows trump would win beachbum bob Apr 2016 #66

+1 artislife Apr 2016 #99

Certainly! Worldly Traveler Apr 2016 #39

He would Bern it up. PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #41

No, but it may lead to a third party. Even better if Trump gets fucked out of the nomination.. Joe the Revelator Apr 2016 #42

I have a better idea. If we want Bernie supporters to work as enthusiastically for Clinton Snotcicles Apr 2016 #43

That would not happen... TheProgressive Apr 2016 #48

I'm saying if she wins takes the nomination. nt Snotcicles Apr 2016 #55

Interesting idea, actually dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #75

Dog? Urchin Apr 2016 #115

I dunno dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #116

Thanks Urchin Apr 2016 #120

Omg, senate leader brings the bills to the floor. glowing Apr 2016 #208

Civics LeFleur1 Apr 2016 #118

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #46

Landslide....? Absolutely, and that's my point... TheProgressive Apr 2016 #50

How does the Electoral College fit into this equation? Trajan Apr 2016 #49

What magic number are you referring to? TheProgressive Apr 2016 #57

I quote Trajan Apr 2016 #64

Nope, I don't read that in the Constitution or the Amendments... TheProgressive Apr 2016 #76

A majority of electoral votes = 270 or more. thucythucy Apr 2016 #111

FFS it's the 12th amendment Recursion Apr 2016 #137

LOL. Nope. And he might as well retire. bettyellen Apr 2016 #51

Why? He's super popular in VT and as an original VT'er, I'm proud as hell of him! glowing Apr 2016 #209

I don't think so but I'm voting for him no matter what. Luciferous Apr 2016 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author Armstead Apr 2016 #56

YES and I wish he would have done so in the beginning dr60omg Apr 2016 #58

Yes...please do! In Truth We Trust Apr 2016 #59

Not a chance. To think so is delusional. He'd just be Nader or possibly Perot to the contest. nt Lisa0825 Apr 2016 #62

If the Republican Party Splits Urchin Apr 2016 #65

I think he would lose big because of this alone puffy socks Apr 2016 #67

He'd Nader it. Adrahil Apr 2016 #69

Nope. ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #72

yes amborin Apr 2016 #74

No. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #77

Did Nader? Did Perot? mythology Apr 2016 #78

Without a doubt. nt NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #79

He could if the Republicans don't go all in for Trump. PyaarRevolution Apr 2016 #80

Good question, and it's hard to say, really dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #81

NO! However he has enough followers to enable a Trump WIN! napi21 Apr 2016 #82

I don't think he would, but I'm not sure rpannier Apr 2016 #83

I'm writing in Bernie for the General anyway peacebird Apr 2016 #84

Yes. deathrind Apr 2016 #85

No. thucythucy Apr 2016 #87

I think this is Democratic Underground. n/t nolawarlock Apr 2016 #88

Like an ice cube on the sun... VOX Apr 2016 #89

We kicked his ass once, we can do it again Freddie Stubbs Apr 2016 #90

He said he won't and he is a man of his word nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #91

No, and he isn't an idiot, so he won't do that. N/t gollygee Apr 2016 #95

that is not the way to go. If Bernie doesn't win, I look forward to the stomping out of the D & R ScreamingMeemie Apr 2016 #96

Both Bernie and Jane say "Emphatic No" to Indy Run! KoKo Apr 2016 #98

This is why a 3rd party can never win - trigger alert: math heavy jg10003 Apr 2016 #100

What's the math look Urchin Apr 2016 #122

What's the math look like . . . Urchin Apr 2016 #123

same thing, no one wins electoral college jg10003 Apr 2016 #134

Probably wouldn't work out. Jester Messiah Apr 2016 #102

No. Starry Messenger Apr 2016 #103

no Vattel Apr 2016 #104

No. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #105

He can't even when the Democratic primary GulfCoast66 Apr 2016 #109

I'm thinking Bernie has better Lazy Daisy Apr 2016 #110

Beyond any doubt..Indies are equal to either party laserhaas Apr 2016 #112

It boggles my mind to think that anybody could genuinely believe this! ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #130

Let's check with former Presidents Ross Perot and Ralph Nader. Oh... right. Nevermind! nt IamMab Apr 2016 #113

Moot. Blue_In_AK Apr 2016 #114

No. nt LostOne4Ever Apr 2016 #117

You are thinking yes? Stuckinthebush Apr 2016 #121

+1 onenote Apr 2016 #176

Because in the general, Debbie wouldn't have her thumb on the scale. n/t Jester Messiah Apr 2016 #210

too late now. onenote Apr 2016 #124

No, but I do wish he would IMHO. JPnoodleman Apr 2016 #125

No. Nobody wil win in the EC and it'll get kicked to Congress. Chan790 Apr 2016 #126

You make me feel so old ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #129

Yes Tiggeroshii Apr 2016 #131

Yes, child, just as soon as the two parties put a majority of Independent electors in place. procon Apr 2016 #132

Sanders would have a serious shot in a four way race... ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #133

Nope. Not even close. Zynx Apr 2016 #135

His name is not Ralph Nader. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #139

Sanders' name would go down in infamy like Nader's. Tortmaster Apr 2016 #140

Only among the foolish. Jester Messiah Apr 2016 #211

He would. If he Invoked the power of his rallies, tie it into how politics work. Joob Apr 2016 #143

No, he wouldn't. grossproffit Apr 2016 #145

do you think he can win if not even on the ballot in Texas, Michigan and Virginia? DrDan Apr 2016 #146

YES! We'll start a petition and DEMAND him be on the ballot! grossproffit Apr 2016 #147

demand in the face of state laws? good luck with that. DrDan Apr 2016 #148

I. don't. know. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #149

If Sanders runs as an independent, he can go fuck himself. baldguy Apr 2016 #150

After Clinton supporters on GDP have been screaming that Bernie is NOT a Democrat, B Calm Apr 2016 #154

An independant run would pretty much prove it, and hand the WH to Trump, to boot. baldguy Apr 2016 #159

I'm not, just pointing out the hypocrisy of Hillary supporters B Calm Apr 2016 #163

At this point if you claim to be supporting Sanders, you're really supporting Trump. baldguy Apr 2016 #164

You are Hilarious. I could say the same thing to you, why are you supporting Trump? B Calm Apr 2016 #165

I support the Democratic Party nominee. You don't. You support those opposing her. baldguy Apr 2016 #167

So who is the nominee? Again, I just pointed at the hypocrisy of Hillary supporters who have B Calm Apr 2016 #169

Hypocrisy is cliaming to be a progressive, but being in the bag for Donald Trump. baldguy Apr 2016 #171

You are not making one bit of fucking sense! B Calm Apr 2016 #175

That's what is known as "false equivalence." Jester Messiah Apr 2016 #212

I wouldn't have put it exactly that way, but yes, the sentiment is correct. auntpurl Apr 2016 #162

He's not going to run as an Independent. And no. n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2016 #151

No. He'd split the Dem. vote and Trump would win. Vinca Apr 2016 #152

Only if the Republicans block out Trump and he runs as well FBaggins Apr 2016 #153

Absolutely not TeddyR Apr 2016 #155

No. Maybe in a four-way race. I don't see Bernie going for that. n/t winter is coming Apr 2016 #156

No (nt) bigwillq Apr 2016 #157

trump of course .... eom artyteacher Apr 2016 #158

No chance of winning.... apcalc Apr 2016 #160

No, and he's not running as an independent--there are sore loser laws on the books book_worm Apr 2016 #170

Absolutely he'd win pinebox Apr 2016 #173

He won't Kelvin Mace Apr 2016 #177

yes Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #179

yes KansDem Apr 2016 #181

What makes you think that? TeddyR Apr 2016 #183

For starters, many Republicans don't like Trump... KansDem Apr 2016 #192

Now let's see rock Apr 2016 #182

he couldnt even get on the ballot in many states jcgoldie Apr 2016 #185

The existence of the electoral college says no. nemo137 Apr 2016 #187

Maybe, maybe not. But, it would the election a helluva lot more interesting. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #188

no Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #189

No. hamsterjill Apr 2016 #191

By breaking a promise? Orsino Apr 2016 #193

Possibly! iwannaknow Apr 2016 #196

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #201

Of course. yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #203

Sanders would definitely come in second or third Joe Nation Apr 2016 #204

yup, but he won't. lakeguy Apr 2016 #206

No...but I would vote for him. yourout Apr 2016 #207

No kentuck Apr 2016 #213