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2016 Postmortem

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leveymg

(36,418 posts)
Wed May 4, 2016, 12:02 PM May 2016

More on Hillary Clinton's felonies. She held guilty knowledge to sustain 18 USC Sec. 793(e) charges [View all]

Many people have asked, what crimes exactly would the FBI find the former Secretary of State violated? This and previous posts linked below provide a detailed picture of Hillary Clinton's violations of her signed Classified Information Nondisclosure Agreement, and the primary federal statute referenced within it, specifically, the three felony crimes specified at subsections (e), (f) and (g) of 18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793

While Hillary Clinton has characterized it as a "mistake", the evidence shows she set up and operated her email server as an end-run around information security requirements. She signed her security oath on January 22, 2009 and in the the following days received explicit warnings from NSA about the vulnerability to hacking of her hand held device. See, http://www.cbsnews.com/news/emails-show-nsa-rejected-hillary-clinton-request-for-secure-smartphone/

Not only did she continue to use the Blackberry in spite of this warning, she operated it for official Department messaging connected to an uncertified server, which made her communications even more vulnerable to interception. She operated this unauthorized system for the rest of her term in office knowing that she was defying NSA. That provides the element of guilty knowledge, or mens rea, that some courts have held is a requirement to conviction under Sec. 793(e) for unauthorized transmission or retention of classified information.

Subsection (e) makes the following acts a felony. Note that the courts have held there are two types of classified materials referenced, tangible documents and intangible information. The distinction is important, as will be explained below:

(e) Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it;

Her actions show general mens rea, or guilty knowledge, that what she was doing could "be used to the injury of the United States." Note that is different from a more specific intent to injure the United States, which is not a requirement under this subsection. Nonetheless, mens rea is a requirement under one line of legal interpretation for conviction for sharing intangible (unstamped) classified information under 793(e). The same line of interpretation distinguishes marked documents from unmarked (intangible) information in the following fashion, according to a government Motion filed in a recent Sec. 793 case: US v Hitzelberger, Case 1:12-cr-00231-RC Document 51 Filed 04/05/13, .pdf

Section 793(e) differentiates between “tangible” information, i.e., the laundry list of items in the statute and “intangible” information, i.e., knowledge. For intangible information, the government must also prove mens rea: that “the possessor has reason to believe (the intangible information) could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign power. 18 U.S.C. § 793(e). The House Committee, in its report on § 793(e) in connection with the 1950 revision of the Espionage Act, explained that this qualifying language addressed concerns that the category of illegally communicated intangible information was potentially overbroad. H.R.Rep. No. 647, 81st Cong., 1st Sess. (1949), at 4. The Committee left it to the courts to define this limiting phrase on a case-by-case basis, but stressed that the “qualification [was] not intended to qualify the other items enumerated in the subsections.” Id. (emphasis added). Accordingly, the government must address the limiting phrase only where the information at issue is intangible.


Meanwhile, this same reasoning is reflected in a filing in the Manning case. A Government brief observed on the topic of what it takes the phrase "reason to believe" to mean, as used in Sec. 793(e): http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/715582/ae-509-government-targeted-brief-reason-to.txt.

under 18 U.S.C. § 793(e), the Government is not
required to prove that the accused had reason to believe the
information "could be used to the injury of the United States"
when the accused had unauthorized possession of any "document,
writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic
negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or
note relating to the national defense." See 18 U.S.C. § 793(e). In
other words, the "reason to believe" scienter requirement only
applies to intangible information relating to the national defense,
not the tangible items listed above. See United States v. Kiriakou,
2012 WL 4903319, at *1 (E.D. Va. Oct. 1 6, 2012) ("Importantly, §
793 [e] differentiates between 'tangible' NDI, described in the
'documents' clause ( 'any document, ... or note relating to the
national defense'), and 'intangible' ND I, described in the
'information' clause ('information relating to the national
defense').&quot ; United States v. Rosen, 445 F. Supp. 2d 602, 612
( E.D. Va. 2006) ("Second, Congress expanded the category of
what could not be communicated pursuant to § § 793(d) and (e) to
include 'information relating to the national defense,' but modified
this additional item by adding a scienter requirement....&quot .


However, the courts have differed on the strict scienter requirement for a 793(e) conviction as found in the 2006 Rosen decision. According to the Congressional Research Service: Criminal Prohibitions on the Publication of Classified Defense Information, Jennifer K. Elsea, Legislative Attorney (September 9, 2013):

ftn. 115 - See United States v. Drake, 818 F. Supp. 2d 909, 916 (D. Md. 2011) (distinguishing intent requirements between disclosures involving tangible documents and those involving intangible information); United States v. Kiriakou, 2012 WL 4903319 at *3-5 (E.D. Va. October 16, 2012) (surveying case law and noting that 4th Cir. interlocutory appeal in
the Rosen case cast doubt on the district judge’s interpretation).


Furthermore, HRC should have reasonably known that she was violating Sec 793(e) by willfully allowing her email system to be a conduit for the swapping and storage of classified materials in violation of the terms of her Classified Information Nondisclose Agreement signed by her on January 22, 2009, which states at Paragraph 1:

"For the purposes of this Agreement, classified information is marked and unmarked information."

Given the sheer volume of classified materials found on her uncertified server, more than 2000 with 104 originating with her, and that 22 were classified Top Secret, she meets the standards for prosecution under USDOJ and JAG guidelines.

In addition, this pattern of willful evasion of the law in concert with others establishes scienter, or willful intent, for an additional conspiracy charge under 793(g), the next relevant subsection of 793:

(g) If two or more persons conspire to violate any of the foregoing provisions of this section, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each of the parties to such conspiracy shall be subject to the punishment provided for the offense which is the object of such conspiracy.


Please see previous installments in this series: (Clinton's violation of her signed Security Oath and her Sec. 793(f)(2) violation, failure to report classified information violations of others, (May 2, 2016) http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1883154); and, the original Sec. 793 analysis, "Hillary Clinton's Felony. The federal laws violated by the private server", (August 28, 2015), http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251552653
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Felonies, huh? lol YouDig May 2016 #1
Ever hear of David Petraeus? Octafish May 2016 #261
Yawn trumad May 2016 #2
The layperson is completely wrong on the law here Gothmog May 2016 #65
But (s)he stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night! COLGATE4 May 2016 #102
Carrying the GOP's water? Proud of yourself. Buzz Clik May 2016 #3
Huh? It's HRC herself who gives the GOP ammo; her actions amborin May 2016 #274
You know that doesn't really make us disappear, right? dchill May 2016 #276
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #4
It's gold, Jerry! Gold!!...nt SidDithers May 2016 #5
Is that a Seinfeld reference? BootinUp May 2016 #6
Yup! kenny NWCorona May 2016 #30
+ 1000 JoePhilly May 2016 #37
looks like you spend a lot of time on this stuff. heh. nt BootinUp May 2016 #7
The layperson wasted a great deal of time Gothmog May 2016 #67
Feinstein would not be my top choice for an expert on the legal system JonLeibowitz May 2016 #202
Feinstein is on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (Vice Chairman) Gothmog May 2016 #203
Thanks, but I did read it. I was posting extra information about the reliability of the source in JonLeibowitz May 2016 #207
Senator Feinstein was not making a comment on the law but the intelligence Gothmog May 2016 #209
In my opinion it did have relevance and I correctly called credibility into question. Please Proceed JonLeibowitz May 2016 #210
She is also a Clinton superdelegate. dchill May 2016 #277
So what? Gothmog May 2016 #278
Actually, Feinstein is 100% wrong here. jeff47 May 2016 #221
Some are paid to do it. Right wing conspiracy, which exists, spends hundreds of millions on this Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #101
naaah, more likely a cut and paste from Reddit. to long to be a tweet, LOL. bettyellen May 2016 #112
That's what smart people do. Octafish May 2016 #249
You are not going to convince..... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #8
This scscholar May 2016 #69
Convince of what, right wing propaganda? You do understand what this is, I hope. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #103
Law CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #125
democratIC Actor May 2016 #128
Democrat or Democratic may refer to: CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #131
People who use rat vs ic have an agenda, if doing it consciously Actor May 2016 #169
Etymology.... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #171
You are absolutely right, and justifying the use of it only strengthens your initial still_one May 2016 #252
Yep...I think there are way more non liberals here than one might think. Actor May 2016 #254
the rule of law hangs in the balance....so does our democracy amborin May 2016 #9
yes, that's true grasswire May 2016 #12
Do you have a paypal account? Wanna make a bet on this? Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #104
you are getting kind of creepy. grasswire May 2016 #119
That is what I feared. So why are you here posting non stop predictions like this and attacks Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #120
LOL--What is your agenda? panader0 May 2016 #172
That is a FUCKING lie - I wish there was a punishment here for lying Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #197
You sure you want that TM99 May 2016 #228
$10,000!!! frylock May 2016 #194
Seriously? Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #196
We had this discussion the other day. frylock May 2016 #206
You still supporting the non Democrat? Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #208
You still beating your spouse? frylock May 2016 #211
Will the rule of law be adhered to? The excitement is killing me... yourpaljoey May 2016 #17
I hope you are right, but... pangaia May 2016 #60
Hillary would have been fine had she not set her own trap yourpaljoey May 2016 #80
I know, I see the evidence they have against her and it is a slam dunk pdsimdars May 2016 #186
You should not trust the analysis of a layperson as to the law Gothmog May 2016 #71
That article references Sec 798 not 793. Different law. leveymg May 2016 #224
Has she been charged? Has she been convicted? Stop with the felonies claim, use alleged felonies. TheBlackAdder May 2016 #10
Think of it as the 5 stages of Bernie grief underthematrix May 2016 #15
If you look at posts, Bernie people aren't really the angry ones. You're making stuff up. pdsimdars May 2016 #187
Yeah. They're angry based on the all anti-Hillary posts at DU underthematrix May 2016 #212
I happen to agree with you on that. NWCorona May 2016 #31
DOJ told the FOIA court last week that a referral is being prepared about her use of her server. JudyM May 2016 #62
Republicans know Hillary Clinton is not going to be indicted. They just can’t say so. Gothmog May 2016 #93
So you would be willing to bet, even money, on an indictment? Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #105
FYI CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #127
thank you, again. grasswire May 2016 #11
Really? The so called secret e-mails are about NYT stories on drones Gothmog May 2016 #72
Another BERNIE FEELS post underthematrix May 2016 #13
So by not reporting her to the DOJ, Sanders is an accessory after the fact? brooklynite May 2016 #14
He didn't receive classified information in email from her. leveymg May 2016 #21
Why do I think you'll be disappointed if she's not indicted? brooklynite May 2016 #27
Indictment is not the goal post. A finding she violated her security oath makes her unviable leveymg May 2016 #38
And who decides that? Demsrule86 May 2016 #117
We'll see what the FBI says. Comey will tell us whether she violated her security oath leveymg May 2016 #147
That is not the FBI's job at all Demsrule86 May 2016 #154
Email.accounts not email private servers . SwampG8r May 2016 #165
Unfortunately, there's a 10-year statute of limitations on these crimes. They couldn't be prosecuted leveymg May 2016 #244
This meme of "carrying water for Trump" is ridiculous. panader0 May 2016 #177
some of us are on the side of truth no matter where it takes us. grasswire May 2016 #42
And I join you in saying that Samantha May 2016 #133
Yes. grasswire May 2016 #138
This really stands out: " revocation of her security clearance and the agreement that she will not leveymg May 2016 #148
Possible mmonk May 2016 #168
The White House, DOJ, FBI and Intel Community IGs are all stakeholders and have to sign off on leveymg May 2016 #175
This is a deal that I imagined might be fair Samantha May 2016 #182
Why shouldn't she go to prison or be humiliated? Kentonio May 2016 #242
I am not in favor of this type of explosive situation being played out in front of the whole world Samantha May 2016 #250
"The part of the true identities of covert agents being exposed" antigop May 2016 #251
I reported in at least one post FOX News reported it; observer.com backed up the story Samantha May 2016 #258
yes, I saw the observer.com link. Thanks. nt antigop May 2016 #260
Why would it have to be on terms that Clinton would accept? truedelphi May 2016 #237
If she digs her heels in, she might be the Democratic nominee when the FBI report is issued leveymg May 2016 #238
Democratic Leadership needs to remember how much the truedelphi May 2016 #256
MY computer is scrolling a lot. Could you read my reply to you right below this one? truedelphi May 2016 #259
it depends upon what the meaning of "seek public office again" is. nt antigop May 2016 #223
that's another associated tragedy grasswire May 2016 #39
How did Blumenthal get classified information? n/t radical noodle May 2016 #46
From Tyler Drumheller, a retired CIA officer who was working with defense contractors in Libya leveymg May 2016 #53
"Some Or All" Of Clinton Emails Designated SAP Referenced Public Information About U.S. Drone Strike Gothmog May 2016 #73
Doesn't matter. jeff47 May 2016 #222
The other poster is also inaccurate. A number were NSA documents that covered political military leveymg May 2016 #239
Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT Jokerman May 2016 #16
Juror #5 - There's plenty of "important information" just like this on rightwing blogs. Sparkly May 2016 #20
So any opposition to Clinton must be "right-wing"? Jokerman May 2016 #23
"Any opposition?" Sparkly May 2016 #25
Sparkly, you know how much I think of you and your hubs. grasswire May 2016 #32
Even a Fox News anchor is not stupid enough to buy this CT Gothmog May 2016 #89
Crying about that "vast, right-wing conspiracy" is just another deflection. Jokerman May 2016 #34
"arrogant dismissal of the left" Sparkly May 2016 #68
More deflection. Jokerman May 2016 #108
Cory Booker is from the LEFT?!?!?!?!?! JonLeibowitz May 2016 #205
Cornell law, CBS news, DU and a cloud dana_b May 2016 #143
Why go to the Free Republic when Sanders supporters will bring Freeper material to DU? Gothmog May 2016 #75
geez grasswire May 2016 #28
The OP is not a lawyer Gothmog May 2016 #77
We have lots of them now on DU. COLGATE4 May 2016 #109
I know better. nt grasswire May 2016 #163
Well, it probably looks like word salad Fairgo May 2016 #161
A jury pool that needs privileges revoked if I ever saw one. joshcryer May 2016 #158
Nah, this one was a correct decision. pdsimdars May 2016 #189
No, this is a right wing meme. joshcryer May 2016 #215
Those famously right wing folks at the FBI... Kentonio May 2016 #243
Some seem to be unaware of Comey's role in stopping Ashcroft's reauthorization of "The Program" leveymg May 2016 #245
Hell Yea!!! Jokerman May 2016 #255
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2016 #18
Why Hillary Clinton is unlikely to be indicted over her private email server Gothmog May 2016 #92
As Secretary of State Hillary should have known, in that position she or anyone else is held to Uncle Joe May 2016 #98
Oh goodie, another RWNJ source being quoted on DU Gothmog May 2016 #113
Hillary knew some of those e-mails were marked classified when she sent them Uncle Joe May 2016 #123
If you are going to rely on RWNJ sources do not be surprised when they are wrong Gothmog May 2016 #141
If you don't approve of right wing news sources don't post corporate media conglomerate propaganda Uncle Joe May 2016 #146
What's the difference between posts like this on DU and on Free Republic? Sparkly May 2016 #19
We'll see what the FBI says. They will have the final word whether she violated her security oath leveymg May 2016 #22
Sure. Sparkly May 2016 #24
I'm not going to try and disuade you from posting this, your effort pales BootinUp May 2016 #26
Should have applied that caveat before starting this vanity thread. nt procon May 2016 #70
Do you tire of being wrong? Gothmog May 2016 #79
This message was self-deleted by its author SwampG8r May 2016 #166
I am sorry, Sparkly grasswire May 2016 #44
Not sure what you mean, grasswire. Sparkly May 2016 #47
I mean the pain that will come when we all are forced to face.. grasswire May 2016 #48
Okay, but the Swift Boaters happened too. Sparkly May 2016 #59
It is true that swiftboating happens. grasswire May 2016 #124
Waiting for a Clinton indictment? Don’t hold your breath Gothmog May 2016 #83
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #49
No, Ida -- I am not accusing members of the forum of being right wingers. Sparkly May 2016 #54
Dont worry Sparkly revmclaren May 2016 #150
the Judicial Watch civil suit has nothing to do with the.. grasswire May 2016 #164
+1 uponit7771 May 2016 #130
Or Trumps "crooked Hillary" stump speech. joshcryer May 2016 #159
I am so disappointed mindwalker_i May 2016 #29
Bernie has played nice ... Trump won't ... Yurovsky May 2016 #41
Clinton emails continue to be non-scandal, disappointing Republicans Gothmog May 2016 #94
Hillary supporters are highly motivated to ignore it mindwalker_i May 2016 #132
She will not be indicted Gothmog May 2016 #137
Again, you are highly motivated towards a specific opinion mindwalker_i May 2016 #160
If I was really worried, I would be out looking for another candidate Gothmog May 2016 #174
Yeah, that would go over well mindwalker_i May 2016 #181
Many super delegates and others are not feeling the bern Gothmog May 2016 #200
And Sanders went easy on Hillary mindwalker_i May 2016 #213
Don't forget that she used the HAARP system to murder Vince Foster. Orrex May 2016 #33
. ucrdem May 2016 #35
I'm happy you find this so amusing. Vinca May 2016 #43
If I thought that the claims had any merit, I'd be more concerned Orrex May 2016 #50
What part do you think has no merit. They are as clear as day. It's hard to see where you'd pdsimdars May 2016 #191
Why don't you ask the OP to document these "felonies?" Orrex May 2016 #217
Of course it has merit. Scares you. 840high May 2016 #226
Well, no. Not at all, in fact. Orrex May 2016 #234
Vince Foster straw man -- everyone DRINK! IdaBriggs May 2016 #51
Increasingly desperate insistence that Clinton is guilty of felonies---everyone mock! Orrex May 2016 #56
Cassandra complex -- watch Troy fall. IdaBriggs May 2016 #58
Your gambling problem is of no interest to me. Orrex May 2016 #76
If you think that the FBI, the Obama judicial system, the Department of state, ABC, CBS, NBC pdsimdars May 2016 #193
Take your head out of your... Well, that would get my post hidden. Orrex May 2016 #216
And who can forget WHITEWATER!!! And TRAVELGATE!!! COLGATE4 May 2016 #114
Do people simply TM99 May 2016 #230
OK. Let's strike Whitewater from the list. Care to comment on all COLGATE4 May 2016 #231
See the problem with using TM99 May 2016 #233
So, Travelgate was an 'ethics issue' for Hillary, although neither she COLGATE4 May 2016 #235
Did you actually read the facts. TM99 May 2016 #236
They declined to prosecute. That generally occurs only when COLGATE4 May 2016 #248
And again I quote -- TM99 May 2016 #257
Insufficient evidence to proceed = no prosecution. COLGATE4 May 2016 #262
You sound like a Bush supporter. TM99 May 2016 #263
No need for ad hominem attacks. I believe I've been COLGATE4 May 2016 #264
Of course she has the presumption of innocence TM99 May 2016 #265
I generally find that, where's there's smoke, there's smoke. COLGATE4 May 2016 #266
Let me guess? TM99 May 2016 #267
I know Hillary beating Bernie hurts but, as a psychologist you know COLGATE4 May 2016 #268
I'm strongly convinced that the vast majority of Hillary's supporters VulgarPoet May 2016 #36
Is security clearance common among Sanders' supporters? Orrex May 2016 #57
Every single person I serve with who supports Sanders has a clearance. VulgarPoet May 2016 #64
So, from your tiny anecdotal sample, you generalize about Clinton's supporters. Orrex May 2016 #78
Man did you ever get it backwards. . . .he is judging from what he reads right here. pdsimdars May 2016 #198
Yes, of course. Orrex May 2016 #218
It's patently obvious from reading replies in these threads.. frylock May 2016 #204
Sure thing, champ. Orrex May 2016 #219
And this disproved my statement in what way? frylock May 2016 #220
Who won Maryland? Agschmid May 2016 #121
Well, if he locks down the voters who have security clearance... Orrex May 2016 #140
Aim high I guess. Agschmid May 2016 #142
Love your sig images, by the way. Orrex May 2016 #144
Thanks, hand picked by me. Agschmid May 2016 #149
I've had a security clearance. And this is all nonsense. nt stevenleser May 2016 #66
As usual, Steve, no specifics in your writing. nt leveymg May 2016 #84
Your comments and insinuations are meaningless. nt stevenleser May 2016 #85
That's neither persuasive nor well thought out, Steve. leveymg May 2016 #88
I'll just bet you were a secret agent farleftlib May 2016 #279
Nope, former USAF. This is a matter of public record that I have talked about here and on TV. nt stevenleser May 2016 #280
Millionaire privilege MsFlorida May 2016 #40
Everyone has forgotten MsFlorida May 2016 #45
well, maybe grasswire May 2016 #52
Chicago politics at its finest....love President Obama! nt IdaBriggs May 2016 #55
You just keep waiting for the Indictment Fairy COLGATE4 May 2016 #115
The OP is intentionally defamatory The Second Stone May 2016 #61
Truth is always a defense in libel claims. The post says she violated her security oath in specific leveymg May 2016 #106
You are a libeler and a liar The Second Stone May 2016 #167
I welcome any factual response. That isn't. leveymg May 2016 #178
No you don't, you'd have evidence, a prosecutor and an indictment The Second Stone May 2016 #195
Educate yourself--This is real, not made up. And it won't go away. panader0 May 2016 #184
It pretty clearly won't go away, but it is made up The Second Stone May 2016 #192
The investigation is "made up"? panader0 May 2016 #199
The investigation is real. The Fox News spin is fake. emulatorloo May 2016 #253
Laypersons are cute and adorable when they make legal claims Gothmog May 2016 #63
Anyone objective can see that there is plenty of ambiguity in the laws & regulations. randome May 2016 #90
You have commented quite a lot by using other's analysis. Could you please break out one of the... xocet May 2016 #96
The applicable law requires either gross negligence or a knowing violation Gothmog May 2016 #107
+1. But they still won't be dissuaded from COLGATE4 May 2016 #116
Two things: 1) HRC's security agreement states "classified information is marked or unmarked" leveymg May 2016 #134
Your posts continue to amuse me Gothmog May 2016 #135
Thank you for kicking the thread again. leveymg May 2016 #151
I just saw your reply: thank you for the extensive comment. n/t xocet May 2016 #157
Dan doesn't even begin to accurately address the actual standards for intent in various sections of leveymg May 2016 #145
Felonies? not even a fucking charge levelled and you already decided on Felonies? how Democratic Sheepshank May 2016 #74
This message was self-deleted by its author MattP May 2016 #81
wow...important stuff... MFM008 May 2016 #82
What is all this? You are not changing any hearts and minds. asuhornets May 2016 #86
It's a shame Hillary brought 840high May 2016 #227
A key word in the Clinton email investigation: 'knowingly' Gothmog May 2016 #87
Don't forget "gross negligence" jmg257 May 2016 #99
Since the e-mails were never classified or marked classified when sent, that will be hard to prove Gothmog May 2016 #110
'Gross negligence' is a term of art. It is not your ordinary, COLGATE4 May 2016 #122
Gross negligence is not nearly as difficult to prove in this case as you pretend leveymg May 2016 #170
ls that your considered 'legal' opinion??? COLGATE4 May 2016 #180
How's she ever gonna get enough time out of prison rock May 2016 #91
silly Republicans. They deserve Tabloid-Trump. Sunlei May 2016 #95
whether or not these allegations hold water, this is now a Big Fucking Deal 0rganism May 2016 #97
Seriously, nobody, that we need to trounce all over Trump, cares or will care. nt BootinUp May 2016 #111
i expect her to have a more substantial answer than that but that's why she's the candidate n/t 0rganism May 2016 #155
K&R#41 + Hillary Clinton's Damning Emails (Ray McGovern April 30, 2016) bobthedrummer May 2016 #100
Well, if ex-CIA analyst Ray McGovern says so, I guess COLGATE4 May 2016 #126
Thanks for posting that. Tell Ray that article is spot-on. leveymg May 2016 #153
Worth reading. Thank you. From there: 840high May 2016 #232
Confronted by NSA with obstacles to her insecure communication, she created a bigger vulnerability leveymg May 2016 #247
Wonder why Republicans aren't using your post ...? kevinmc May 2016 #118
This message was self-deleted by its author Gomez163 May 2016 #129
Sanders should really start hammering this on the campaign trail KingFlorez May 2016 #136
Great idea! Nonhlanhla May 2016 #139
Are the FBI and the DoJ doing Trump's work too? panader0 May 2016 #188
Have they found her guilty of something yet? Nonhlanhla May 2016 #201
Maybe there's a time and a place? nc4bo May 2016 #179
did we really land on the moon? stonecutter357 May 2016 #152
"Email" is a right-wing conspiracy!!!!!!!! John Poet May 2016 #156
HOLY CRAP MFM008 May 2016 #162
She's being investigated by the FBI, not Republicans Kentonio May 2016 #246
Her motive? Thirties Child May 2016 #173
The smell of flopsweat and desperation, morning noon and night. Hekate May 2016 #176
If an indictment went forward, would it be before or after the GE? EndElectoral May 2016 #183
She has successfully innoculated most dems against the word "email" HereSince1628 May 2016 #190
Come on commie, you know that law is part of a right wing conspiracy. pdsimdars May 2016 #185
. Dr Hobbitstein May 2016 #214
Makes not the slightest bit of difference. She is a member of The Club eridani May 2016 #225
It bothers me SCantiGOP May 2016 #229
It bothers me, too, leveymg May 2016 #241
K&R for the back and forth Babel_17 May 2016 #240
Please proceed governor. ucrdem May 2016 #269
The Groundwork: The stealthy, Eric Schmidt-backed startup that's working to put Hillary Clinton in bobthedrummer May 2016 #270
Kick for Justice. Octafish May 2016 #271
Thanks. You're true-blue. leveymg May 2016 #272
I've been thinking a lot about Haiti, lately. Octafish May 2016 #273
I wouldn't choose any of those places for political asylum. leveymg May 2016 #275
Oh please. Enough of this crazy fucking shit. RBInMaine May 2016 #281
This makes me smile Gothmog Jul 2016 #282
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