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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: More on Hillary Clinton's felonies. She held guilty knowledge to sustain 18 USC Sec. 793(e) charges [View all]Gothmog
(167,889 posts)73. "Some Or All" Of Clinton Emails Designated SAP Referenced Public Information About U.S. Drone Strike
These charges are really funny. The so call beyond top secret information is material in news reports http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/hillary-clinton-email-server-top-secret-217985
The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said some or all of the emails deemed to implicate special access programs related to U.S. drone strikes. Those who sent the emails were not involved in directing or approving the strikes, but responded to the fallout from them, the official said.
The information in the emails was not obtained through a classified product, but is considered per se classified because it pertains to drones, the official added. The U.S. treats drone operations conducted by the CIA as classified, even though in a 2012 internet chat Presidential Barack Obama acknowledged U.S.-directed drone strikes in Pakistan.
The source noted that the intelligence community considers information about classified operations to be classified even if it appears in news reports or is apparent to eyewitnesses on the ground. For example, U.S. officials with security clearances have been warned not to access classified information leaked to WikiLeaks and published in the New York Times.
Even though things are in the public domain, they still retain their classification level, the official said. The ICIG maintains its position that its still codeword classified.
The State Department is likely to persist in its contention that some information the intelligence community claimed was top secret because it related to North Korean nuclear tests was actually the product of parallel reporting that did not rely on classified intelligence products and so should not be treated as highly classified, the official said.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/hillary-clinton-email-server-top-secret-217985#ixzz3xvQpGCwW
The information in the emails was not obtained through a classified product, but is considered per se classified because it pertains to drones, the official added. The U.S. treats drone operations conducted by the CIA as classified, even though in a 2012 internet chat Presidential Barack Obama acknowledged U.S.-directed drone strikes in Pakistan.
The source noted that the intelligence community considers information about classified operations to be classified even if it appears in news reports or is apparent to eyewitnesses on the ground. For example, U.S. officials with security clearances have been warned not to access classified information leaked to WikiLeaks and published in the New York Times.
Even though things are in the public domain, they still retain their classification level, the official said. The ICIG maintains its position that its still codeword classified.
The State Department is likely to persist in its contention that some information the intelligence community claimed was top secret because it related to North Korean nuclear tests was actually the product of parallel reporting that did not rely on classified intelligence products and so should not be treated as highly classified, the official said.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/hillary-clinton-email-server-top-secret-217985#ixzz3xvQpGCwW
E-mails discussing material in the Washington Post are not top secret or SAP.
Thank you for the laughs
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More on Hillary Clinton's felonies. She held guilty knowledge to sustain 18 USC Sec. 793(e) charges [View all]
leveymg
May 2016
OP
Thanks, but I did read it. I was posting extra information about the reliability of the source in
JonLeibowitz
May 2016
#207
In my opinion it did have relevance and I correctly called credibility into question. Please Proceed
JonLeibowitz
May 2016
#210
Some are paid to do it. Right wing conspiracy, which exists, spends hundreds of millions on this
Jackie Wilson Said
May 2016
#101
naaah, more likely a cut and paste from Reddit. to long to be a tweet, LOL.
bettyellen
May 2016
#112
Convince of what, right wing propaganda? You do understand what this is, I hope.
Jackie Wilson Said
May 2016
#103
You are absolutely right, and justifying the use of it only strengthens your initial
still_one
May 2016
#252
That is what I feared. So why are you here posting non stop predictions like this and attacks
Jackie Wilson Said
May 2016
#120
That is a FUCKING lie - I wish there was a punishment here for lying
Jackie Wilson Said
May 2016
#197
Has she been charged? Has she been convicted? Stop with the felonies claim, use alleged felonies.
TheBlackAdder
May 2016
#10
If you look at posts, Bernie people aren't really the angry ones. You're making stuff up.
pdsimdars
May 2016
#187
DOJ told the FOIA court last week that a referral is being prepared about her use of her server.
JudyM
May 2016
#62
Republicans know Hillary Clinton is not going to be indicted. They just can’t say so.
Gothmog
May 2016
#93
So by not reporting her to the DOJ, Sanders is an accessory after the fact?
brooklynite
May 2016
#14
Indictment is not the goal post. A finding she violated her security oath makes her unviable
leveymg
May 2016
#38
We'll see what the FBI says. Comey will tell us whether she violated her security oath
leveymg
May 2016
#147
Unfortunately, there's a 10-year statute of limitations on these crimes. They couldn't be prosecuted
leveymg
May 2016
#244
This really stands out: " revocation of her security clearance and the agreement that she will not
leveymg
May 2016
#148
The White House, DOJ, FBI and Intel Community IGs are all stakeholders and have to sign off on
leveymg
May 2016
#175
I am not in favor of this type of explosive situation being played out in front of the whole world
Samantha
May 2016
#250
I reported in at least one post FOX News reported it; observer.com backed up the story
Samantha
May 2016
#258
If she digs her heels in, she might be the Democratic nominee when the FBI report is issued
leveymg
May 2016
#238
MY computer is scrolling a lot. Could you read my reply to you right below this one?
truedelphi
May 2016
#259
From Tyler Drumheller, a retired CIA officer who was working with defense contractors in Libya
leveymg
May 2016
#53
"Some Or All" Of Clinton Emails Designated SAP Referenced Public Information About U.S. Drone Strike
Gothmog
May 2016
#73
The other poster is also inaccurate. A number were NSA documents that covered political military
leveymg
May 2016
#239
Juror #5 - There's plenty of "important information" just like this on rightwing blogs.
Sparkly
May 2016
#20
Why go to the Free Republic when Sanders supporters will bring Freeper material to DU?
Gothmog
May 2016
#75
Some seem to be unaware of Comey's role in stopping Ashcroft's reauthorization of "The Program"
leveymg
May 2016
#245
As Secretary of State Hillary should have known, in that position she or anyone else is held to
Uncle Joe
May 2016
#98
Hillary knew some of those e-mails were marked classified when she sent them
Uncle Joe
May 2016
#123
If you are going to rely on RWNJ sources do not be surprised when they are wrong
Gothmog
May 2016
#141
If you don't approve of right wing news sources don't post corporate media conglomerate propaganda
Uncle Joe
May 2016
#146
We'll see what the FBI says. They will have the final word whether she violated her security oath
leveymg
May 2016
#22
What part do you think has no merit. They are as clear as day. It's hard to see where you'd
pdsimdars
May 2016
#191
Increasingly desperate insistence that Clinton is guilty of felonies---everyone mock!
Orrex
May 2016
#56
If you think that the FBI, the Obama judicial system, the Department of state, ABC, CBS, NBC
pdsimdars
May 2016
#193
Man did you ever get it backwards. . . .he is judging from what he reads right here.
pdsimdars
May 2016
#198
Nope, former USAF. This is a matter of public record that I have talked about here and on TV. nt
stevenleser
May 2016
#280
Truth is always a defense in libel claims. The post says she violated her security oath in specific
leveymg
May 2016
#106
Anyone objective can see that there is plenty of ambiguity in the laws & regulations.
randome
May 2016
#90
You have commented quite a lot by using other's analysis. Could you please break out one of the...
xocet
May 2016
#96
Two things: 1) HRC's security agreement states "classified information is marked or unmarked"
leveymg
May 2016
#134
Dan doesn't even begin to accurately address the actual standards for intent in various sections of
leveymg
May 2016
#145
Felonies? not even a fucking charge levelled and you already decided on Felonies? how Democratic
Sheepshank
May 2016
#74
Since the e-mails were never classified or marked classified when sent, that will be hard to prove
Gothmog
May 2016
#110
Gross negligence is not nearly as difficult to prove in this case as you pretend
leveymg
May 2016
#170
Seriously, nobody, that we need to trounce all over Trump, cares or will care. nt
BootinUp
May 2016
#111
i expect her to have a more substantial answer than that but that's why she's the candidate n/t
0rganism
May 2016
#155
Confronted by NSA with obstacles to her insecure communication, she created a bigger vulnerability
leveymg
May 2016
#247
The Groundwork: The stealthy, Eric Schmidt-backed startup that's working to put Hillary Clinton in
bobthedrummer
May 2016
#270