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2016 Postmortem

In reply to the discussion: California will be seismic [View all]

Godhumor

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47. ... that's not really how we use if-then statements
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:08 PM
May 2016

Obama lost California to an already defeated Clinton in 2008. He had no problem carrying it in the GE.

There is no correlation between primary results and GE results, because overall states demographics and voter inclinations vary wildly to primary demographics and inclinations.

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California will be seismic [View all] hootinholler May 2016 OP
I have a good feeling too ucrdem May 2016 #1
Me too Zorro May 2016 #21
Indeed, and young latinos prefer Bernie. JonLeibowitz May 2016 #29
Really, like they did in Arizona and Texas (not). I wouldn't be so sure of that. brush May 2016 #35
Diverse states like Washington, Alaska, Oklahoma, and Hawai'i? JonLeibowitz May 2016 #41
Oh, quite a long list there. brush May 2016 #46
Alaska is extremely diverse. Kentonio May 2016 #77
I would not add Washington to that group Demsrule86 May 2016 #66
oh but she's coming and bringing Hell with her reddread May 2016 #2
I am cautiously hopeful but, never underestimate the adversary. Powerful machinery behind her. Hiraeth May 2016 #37
I have noticed a blackout of CA polls lagomorph777 May 2016 #3
field poll california this thursday BlueStateLib May 2016 #20
No blackout, but RCP polls are swinging way past MOE Reiyuki May 2016 #34
Bernie had a statement today saying he's going to keep running no matter what. Renew Deal May 2016 #44
Clearly she went to CA one day early LoverOfLiberty May 2016 #57
I've Got a Feeling Dem2 May 2016 #4
shake shake shake ucrdem May 2016 #8
I'm very jittery about the fact that there's not gonna be exit polls. Nyan May 2016 #5
Volunteers need to take up the exit polling. It's a red flag if exits are not counted. n/t Lodestar May 2016 #18
It means there's no point. nt msanthrope May 2016 #33
I think they want to spend their exit poll money in NJ Renew Deal May 2016 #45
California doesn't matter either way but it is starting to shape up just like NY. Renew Deal May 2016 #6
It would be a nice moral victory for Bernie firebrand80 May 2016 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #9
You're kidding, right? This isn't a television show. grossproffit May 2016 #80
It would be as "seismic" as Hillary winning CA by 8 points in 2008. sufrommich May 2016 #10
It's Okay everyone, don't freak out. Pay attention to talking points. Be ready to strike back at 'em Joob May 2016 #11
"whatever didn't do full research yet" Agschmid May 2016 #28
Yup. I got nauseous reading about them lobbying and making a PAC Joob May 2016 #31
I caught that as well. CentralMass May 2016 #58
the pac endorsed her, the group says it can't endorse as a non profit Viva_La_Revolution May 2016 #82
Do I take it then that Sanders has given up on NJ? brooklynite May 2016 #12
Why do you think this has anything to do with NJ? hootinholler May 2016 #17
Because NJ closes before CA. Math. nt msanthrope May 2016 #32
The OP is about Clinton coming back to CA to campaign... brooklynite May 2016 #36
People are sick of the status quo. Octafish May 2016 #13
We were sick of Bush and Ahnold, sure ucrdem May 2016 #15
So why did you recall Gray Davis, when ENRON manufactured the ''energy crisis''? Octafish May 2016 #22
Don't blame me. I voted for Bustamante. ucrdem May 2016 #23
I'm sorry: I did not mean to imply it was your fault. Octafish May 2016 #24
Thanks Octa! ucrdem May 2016 #27
Because Californians are not really that liberal overall, and we LOVE celebrity ContinentalOp May 2016 #62
That was first year of voting machines in Riverside county WhiteTara May 2016 #78
You just can't stop being negative, can you? "Camp Weathervane". randome May 2016 #14
Hillary can't stop shifting positions can she? hootinholler May 2016 #19
When New credible information comes to lite-It is a sign of a critical thinker to assess riversedge May 2016 #54
Seriously? Like gay marriage? Yurovsky May 2016 #68
Will require unprecedented vigilance via 'work-arounds' of information gathering, Lodestar May 2016 #16
30+ points good? Adrahil May 2016 #25
yeah...well your predictive ability actually suck. Sheepshank May 2016 #26
I know! hootinholler May 2016 #38
Unsubstantiated guessing on the polling, is predictive Sheepshank May 2016 #39
I wonder Uponthegears May 2016 #30
Losing the primary would not be good evidence of Sanders' electability. Donald Ian Rankin May 2016 #40
Oh and the spin starts Uponthegears May 2016 #42
If Clinton turns into a mongoose, she will have to learn to use sign language. Donald Ian Rankin May 2016 #43
Oh my Uponthegears May 2016 #50
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #52
Nice language Uponthegears May 2016 #55
... that's not really how we use if-then statements Godhumor May 2016 #47
Clinton wasn't already Uponthegears May 2016 #48
I was a Clinton backer in 2008. She was already defeated and talked about as such Godhumor May 2016 #49
Hmmm Uponthegears May 2016 #53
Obama lost Cali to Clinton in '08 Cursive May 2016 #56
President McCain totally agrees with you. PeaceNikki May 2016 #67
Good try guys Uponthegears May 2016 #69
Please link to where HRC called BS a PeaceNikki May 2016 #70
Did you miss the word "supporters?" Uponthegears May 2016 #72
OK, Can you link to that quote from a supporter, please and thanks? PeaceNikki May 2016 #73
in passim Uponthegears May 2016 #75
so... no. PeaceNikki May 2016 #76
snore Uponthegears May 2016 #79
And, FYI, the upgrade to "camp weathervane" is Princess Weathervane and her ostrich army pdsimdars May 2016 #51
I think he has a good chance in CA. blackspade May 2016 #59
Jury results edbermac May 2016 #60
I expect a 10 point Clinton victory. (eom) StevieM May 2016 #61
I'm sticking with 10-15. nt BootinUp May 2016 #74
Well, that's California's fault. MineralMan May 2016 #63
He's only down, what, 10-points? Octafish May 2016 #64
It won't Demsrule86 May 2016 #65
Bernie doesn't win diverse states, last I checked. ecstatic May 2016 #71
A political earthquake? Perhaps so knowing that pollsters don't usually count new voters Samantha May 2016 #81
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