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Octafish

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83. It's the weirdest thing. On election day, I pull the lever marked 'D' for peace...
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 11:12 PM
Jun 2016

...and out pops more war. Election after Election. I think someone believes we won't notice.

For instance, Afghanistan.



Yet the war in Afghanistan still has the support of the vast majority of politicians in the United States. Across party lines and ideological differences, this war is seen as a justified conflict. Even Bernie Sanders, the leftmost candidate for the U.S. presidency, states on his website that “we entered [the Afghan] war with significant clarity of purpose and moral authority.”

While the original purpose of the war may have been clear—to unseat the Taliban, but also to spread counterterror efforts throughout the world—we have since lost the way. Though the commonly cited date of the defeat of the Taliban is November 22, 2001, we still fight on.

http://inthesetimes.com/article/18481/afghanistan-war-fourteen-years-later



President Obama said we would be out PDQ. Yet, there we are, now well into Year 15.

Sec. Clinton sided with the surge solution, which is an escalation, a term tragically all-too familiar for those who remember Vietnam.

I'm thinking we're never gonna see that Peace Dividend used for anything other than more war.

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Yes, in lieu of her horrific IWR AUMF vote, the above quote jumps out at one as hypocritical EndElectoral Jun 2016 #1
I would disagree that it's hypocritical. It's clearly Hillary-speak. "We will only fight wars if rhett o rick Jun 2016 #7
It's a way to be on both sides of every issue. JRLeft Jun 2016 #21
So, I'm at a party... Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #2
What you said rhett o rick Jun 2016 #9
Here's another vote for Octafish! JackRiddler Jun 2016 #43
We here at DU madokie Jun 2016 #61
Me too!!! Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #65
You are a real pal, Cooley Hurd! Octafish Jun 2016 #72
You are an excellent teacher. JEB Jun 2016 #73
Thank you, JEB! DU is pioneering a new Journalism. Octafish Jun 2016 #79
"Ars longa. Vita brevis" pangaia Jun 2016 #78
Hiya, pangaia! It's from Firesign Theatre... Octafish Jun 2016 #81
Why can't so many people see... seekthetruth Jun 2016 #3
I'm so old, I remember the Peace Dividend. Octafish Jun 2016 #64
Thanks for this info. This is why we can't have nice things. ReasonableToo Jun 2016 #68
Is Counterpunch on the list of sites like FR and JW which cannot be used as sources on 6/16? LonePirate Jun 2016 #4
Hmmmm. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #8
Ahhh to be able to censor those which you don't agree with. And you have that in rhett o rick Jun 2016 #13
If Hillary gets the nom, say goodbye to free speech around here. reformist2 Jun 2016 #17
given the traumas and troubles experienced at Pacifica in the 90's reddread Jun 2016 #36
I don't have free speech around here now BlueStateLib Jun 2016 #40
Censor. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #39
Clinton supporters control MIRT and they decide who gets banned with under 100 posts. rhett o rick Jun 2016 #44
^^^This^^^ -none Jun 2016 #57
When you refer to a presidential candidate as BS... peace13 Jun 2016 #51
That pretty much nails it Miles Archer Jun 2016 #58
^^^^ THIS ^^^^ n/t davidlynch Jun 2016 #60
Why? It's a left-wing source... JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #11
That's the problem with it Fumesucker Jun 2016 #12
When do people link to Counterpunch except to trash Hillary? LonePirate Jun 2016 #14
Read some of the articles. You'll learn a lot. Octafish Jun 2016 #20
Counterpunch is not Pablum for status quo. JEB Jun 2016 #74
You're ignoring the question I asked and are answering a different one. LonePirate Jun 2016 #75
Like CNN? Funny how the centrists (corporate Democrats) used to not like CNN rhett o rick Jun 2016 #16
yes, should be obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #52
No. And I've written why not before. Octafish Jun 2016 #53
KICK Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #5
Kick with you +10 840high Jun 2016 #37
Send doctors, engineers and educators. tecelote Jun 2016 #6
Builds trust and makes for lasting friendships, too. Octafish Jun 2016 #42
You have also this beast now: Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #54
Fourth Urn's 60-percent hike in minimum wage WAS a strategic threat. Octafish Jun 2016 #69
See this thread, Octa, Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #71
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife Jun 2016 #10
That is exactly it. Octafish Jun 2016 #15
Those that have cheered the demise of the Republicon party don't understand that rhett o rick Jun 2016 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife Jun 2016 #23
and I hope she kicks Isis's ass from here to eternity. wyldwolf Jun 2016 #18
Boy do you not understand. ISIS was created because of us. Our government needs a boggy man to rhett o rick Jun 2016 #24
So? If a house gets infested with pests because the owners were sloppy, does that mean... wyldwolf Jun 2016 #27
Again you don't understand. ISIS provides a great service to the neocons and the MIC rhett o rick Jun 2016 #28
I can't wait to see those rapists and child killers strung up by the Clinton administration wyldwolf Jun 2016 #29
You will have to wait forever. They will invade Iran first. It's about business opportunities. rhett o rick Jun 2016 #30
get me the winning lottery numbers while you're at it. wyldwolf Jun 2016 #31
And that's about as deep as your side will ever get in discussing an issue. rhett o rick Jun 2016 #45
more like my side doesn't believe in psychic 'progressives.' wyldwolf Jun 2016 #48
Iran. Russia. Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #56
Get a load of all those flags. pacalo Jun 2016 #19
Whatever sells. Maybe she should give her rendition of God Bless America to prove her patriotism. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #25
That flock of federal eagles is looking downright imperial HereSince1628 Jun 2016 #35
Had to look up ''finial.'' Octafish Jun 2016 #70
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 Jun 2016 #38
There were more than that. That picture doesn't show the 2 full flags on each side. DesMoinesDem Jun 2016 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 Jun 2016 #82
it gives new meaning shanti Jun 2016 #80
yet bernie sanders votes for war, war, and more war every year and his crowd .... crickets lol nt msongs Jun 2016 #26
Not really true, as Sanders votes for Op support, VA benefits, pay hikes... Octafish Jun 2016 #41
How sad. Your desperation is showing. Hillary Clinton voted to invade Iraq and kill maybe rhett o rick Jun 2016 #46
K&R For Peace felix_numinous Jun 2016 #32
No time for hate. Not enough time for peace as it is. Octafish Jun 2016 #59
Wow talk about wrapping yourself in the flag. jwirr Jun 2016 #33
It is an amazing image. Octafish Jun 2016 #55
No, I don't agree with that at all. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #63
+1 eom Arazi Jun 2016 #34
Hillary’s Foreign Policy Speech: Queen Galadriel Before Her Magic Mirror (Gary Leupp) Octafish Jun 2016 #89
Besides climate change, it's the most important. Glad I have your back eom Arazi Jun 2016 #90
Lies and distortions of what Hillary actually said? Thread trashed. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #47
History says otherwise. Octafish Jun 2016 #50
Oh Dear God NO...More "Lies and distortions of what Hillary actually said?" Miles Archer Jun 2016 #66
more here, on her unforgivable war crimes: amborin Jun 2016 #62
Well stated 'Octafish' - ..... Enough is Enough already.... I'm ashamed, as an American laserhaas Jun 2016 #67
It's the weirdest thing. On election day, I pull the lever marked 'D' for peace... Octafish Jun 2016 #83
We are the Imperalist Empire laserhaas Jun 2016 #87
I thinks she needs about a dozen more flags behind her, that'll show em B Calm Jun 2016 #76
"Our troops give their all. They deserve a commander-in-chief who knows that." pangaia Jun 2016 #77
Hillary Clinton’s Speech Against Trump Hypocritically Touts Her Foreign Policy Strength Octafish Jun 2016 #88
Clever words of omission, aren't they? MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #84
''Shenanigans.'' Octafish Jun 2016 #85
Excellent, as usual from you... and to think... MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #86
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