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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Hillary Comes Out as the Candidate of the War Party [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)83. It's the weirdest thing. On election day, I pull the lever marked 'D' for peace...
...and out pops more war. Election after Election. I think someone believes we won't notice.
For instance, Afghanistan.
Yet the war in Afghanistan still has the support of the vast majority of politicians in the United States. Across party lines and ideological differences, this war is seen as a justified conflict. Even Bernie Sanders, the leftmost candidate for the U.S. presidency, states on his website that we entered [the Afghan] war with significant clarity of purpose and moral authority.
While the original purpose of the war may have been clearto unseat the Taliban, but also to spread counterterror efforts throughout the worldwe have since lost the way. Though the commonly cited date of the defeat of the Taliban is November 22, 2001, we still fight on.
http://inthesetimes.com/article/18481/afghanistan-war-fourteen-years-later
President Obama said we would be out PDQ. Yet, there we are, now well into Year 15.
Sec. Clinton sided with the surge solution, which is an escalation, a term tragically all-too familiar for those who remember Vietnam.
I'm thinking we're never gonna see that Peace Dividend used for anything other than more war.
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EndElectoral
Jun 2016
#1
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#7
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#24
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#27
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#28
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Jun 2016
#29
You will have to wait forever. They will invade Iran first. It's about business opportunities.
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Jun 2016
#30
And that's about as deep as your side will ever get in discussing an issue.
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#45
Whatever sells. Maybe she should give her rendition of God Bless America to prove her patriotism.
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Jun 2016
#25
There were more than that. That picture doesn't show the 2 full flags on each side.
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Jun 2016
#49
yet bernie sanders votes for war, war, and more war every year and his crowd .... crickets lol nt
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#26
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Oh Dear God NO...More "Lies and distortions of what Hillary actually said?"
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Well stated 'Octafish' - ..... Enough is Enough already.... I'm ashamed, as an American
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