2016 Postmortem

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13. Neither do we. You're welcome.

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 05:33 PM

Jun 2016

And some people are sexists.

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The only person to mention genitals in regard to sexism is this poster, who has been making this bigoted comment in other threads lately. (And no, it isn't any better because jillan is a woman's name. )

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No, it doesn't look sexist at all. Uh uh. Nope. Nothing to see here... [View all] bravenak Jun 2016 OP

I'm sick of Bernie's arrogance demanding new rules for himself. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #1

Me too. Damn. Something new every damn day. bravenak Jun 2016 #3

Democracy isn't fair! AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #11

I guess that must be Bernie's position since he's the one arguing against democracy. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #54

Good one. Beacool Jun 2016 #76

"superdelegate coup"... dchill Jun 2016 #202

So it's a "coup" for about half the superdelegates to announce their endorsements early? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #210

Hillary would never do such a thing Omaha Steve Jun 2016 #134

+1, then saying the same system the long shot black guy won with in 08 is "rigged" for his ass uponit7771 Jun 2016 #189

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #2

You are the only one think about that bravenak Jun 2016 #5

No jillian, I know this is way out there, but discussing women is not discussing genitals seabeyond Jun 2016 #6

I don't base my vote for a candidate based on what body parts they have. I don't base my friends, jillan Jun 2016 #8

Nor do Clinton supporters. PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #9

You reduced Clinton to a body part. YOU. You reduce her supporters to body parts and voting seabeyond Jun 2016 #10

Yes! Why is it that the Sanders campaign thinks that the first woman to ever become the presumptive skylucy Jun 2016 #132

and yet you comment this is sexism. Hard to believe Harry. HERVEPA Jun 2016 #156

Neither do we. You're welcome. Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #13

You sure do seem to base your arguments on it though. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #20

So much negativity from Sanders supporters Cary Jun 2016 #213

From start to finish, Clinton has been in the lead. Any man would be called successful. The bar just seabeyond Jun 2016 #4

Crystal damn clear bravenak Jun 2016 #7

Well put, sea! mcar Jun 2016 #116

So true. skylucy Jun 2016 #133

Sanders is not man enough Whimsey Jun 2016 #163

Yep GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #179

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2016 #191

+10000000000 treestar Jun 2016 #219

From before the start, really, by 355 supers. nilram Jun 2016 #228

Sorry. For me she is too right wing, it has nothing to do with gender. m-lekktor Jun 2016 #12

That is fine you do not vote for her because of issues. We are talking about the obvious sexism seabeyond Jun 2016 #16

There is no sexism TeddyR Jun 2016 #29

No excuse. Clinton is kicking ass, perserving, is the fuckin WINNER. To call out the bullshit seabeyond Jun 2016 #33

You ignored the point TeddyR Jun 2016 #37

People have been pretty damn articulate explaining the sexism to you. seabeyond Jun 2016 #45

Ah! Epiphany! TeddyR Jun 2016 #68

Simple. A few words, a few sentence. After Tuesday, it is Clinton's nomination. seabeyond Jun 2016 #71

That wasn't my question TeddyR Jun 2016 #75

So, we redirect the whole conversation of this Op to what YOU want to talk about? No. seabeyond Jun 2016 #79

Very informative TeddyR Jun 2016 #83

Some others are still waiting also......... guillaumeb Jun 2016 #80

Thank you !! Yes! I agree! HILLARY 2016! skylucy Jun 2016 #128

Bull bravenak Jun 2016 #34

So you think a person TeddyR Jun 2016 #40

She is NOT under investigation by the FBI. apcalc Jun 2016 #88

Yes. America loves women like Hillary Clinton–as long as they’re not asking for a promotion PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #43

So true. skylucy Jun 2016 #135

Rather strange article excerpt... k8conant Jun 2016 #140

Strange how? PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #141

Strange because I don't think it's true... k8conant Jun 2016 #143

Concern: duly noted. PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #145

The establishment usually has a hard time recognizing oppression of marginalized people uponit7771 Jun 2016 #192

I just alerted a post that called her a hag bravenak Jun 2016 #23

Hillary broke govt rules & lied about it. That's just bad behavior regardless... think Jun 2016 #14

She has the vote. She won. She gets the nomination. Sanders behavior is atrocious. seabeyond Jun 2016 #19

She won bravenak Jun 2016 #24

Great TeddyR Jun 2016 #31

Yes it is bravenak Jun 2016 #38

Hey Brave, how many times have you heard racism is CURED because Obama was elected? Ever? Nt seabeyond Jun 2016 #41

I heard the cure was for us to stfu about it. bravenak Jun 2016 #55

Lmfao. Ya. And that. Nt seabeyond Jun 2016 #57

The racist argument. There is no racism, Obama became president. Brilliant. A true progressive. seabeyond Jun 2016 #39

How does that justify lying and breaking rules? think Jun 2016 #46

It says the cries of fraud are bullshit bravenak Jun 2016 #47

She hasn't admitted shit. She got called out by the Inspector General and is still lying about it. think Jun 2016 #53

I watched her say she'd do it differently. See? Admitted a fault. Unlike some people bravenak Jun 2016 #58

Good luck with that... think Jun 2016 #78

And the inspector general said she did NOT break any laws. George II Jun 2016 #217

Clinton email server broke government rules, watchdog finds think Jun 2016 #220

"Rules" are not "laws". George II Jun 2016 #221

As an employee of the government are you suppose to follow rules or break them? think Jun 2016 #223

We have caught Sanders lying, breaking the rules and possibly laws. I expect your consistency. seabeyond Jun 2016 #52

She broke no rules. apcalc Jun 2016 #90

Apparently you missed the memo: think Jun 2016 #107

Please don't confuse them with facts... truebrit71 Jun 2016 #131

Hillary breaking rules is a plus for her, she needs to break some more uponit7771 Jun 2016 #193

She didn't. Period. George II Jun 2016 #216

LOL. You keep telling youself that... think Jun 2016 #218

How easy it is. Don't like what someone says, claim sexism to avoid discussion The Straight Story Jun 2016 #15

Nothing is easy about racism and sexism Haveadream Jun 2016 #44

Such things warrant serious discussion. Labeling things sexist because you don't like them The Straight Story Jun 2016 #56

The topics of racism and sexism have been discussed seriously Haveadream Jun 2016 #70

I think Bernie would be doing the same thing if it were Bill instead of Hill. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #17

And we do not believe it. We will never know. What I do know, he has never attacked a man seabeyond Jun 2016 #21

I guess its true that we will never know, but he has hard very harsh words for republicans. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #77

Nothing compared to how he has talked to or dismissed women thru out. He doesn't seabeyond Jun 2016 #82

He didn't criticize those leaders in the party because of their gender, race, or sexual orientation aikoaiko Jun 2016 #89

It is ALWAYS women he says something to, but the men that are doing the same? Not so much. seabeyond Jun 2016 #95

Ok, maybe someday maybe we'll see and understand each other better, aikoaiko Jun 2016 #102

Lol aikoaiko. seabeyond Jun 2016 #103

Bucking the establishment or just going on an ego trip? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #60

At this point? See that's the thing. Bernie's been very consistent (albeit imperfectly) aikoaiko Jun 2016 #69

Here's where he has not been consistent radical noodle Jun 2016 #142

Maybe so, but I'd need to look at what Bernie said exactly. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #144

So 400+ superdelegates announcing their preference for Hillary before the primaries = bad. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #212

I think an argument can be made that in neither case is the will of the people the main issue. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #214

It's the campaign contributions stupid... Whimsey Jun 2016 #170

Very hard to give that up bravenak Jun 2016 #174

I don't know if that is true. Bernie has a pretty sweet life in Burlington. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #215

Blind stubbornness is not praiseworthy. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #209

Bernie IS the establishment when it serves his purpose Haveadream Jun 2016 #105

Excellent post. Thanks. Nt seabeyond Jun 2016 #106

Thanks, seabeyond! Haveadream Jun 2016 #110

Walking away with this thread! brer cat Jun 2016 #124

Well said. nt sufrommich Jun 2016 #18

It feels like all of it is coming out right now. Sick! bravenak Jun 2016 #30

The woman who won more delegates and votes should relent to a male in 2nd place Yavin4 Jun 2016 #22

It sure is blatant bravenak Jun 2016 #27

The woman TeddyR Jun 2016 #32

Yes. Nt seabeyond Jun 2016 #35

This. Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #36

Yes! Absolutely! skylucy Jun 2016 #137

Yup! Maven Jun 2016 #158

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2016 #195

One tiny little word of qualification in all this: guillaumeb Jun 2016 #25

And I am not saying all of it is sexist bravenak Jun 2016 #28

Point. You are sure to draw point that it is SOME. then.... "But to equate all criticism of HRC as" seabeyond Jun 2016 #50

K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Jun 2016 #26

What a stupid fucking thread. BlueStater Jun 2016 #42

Best thread on du bravenak Jun 2016 #49

Yes! Great thread! skylucy Jun 2016 #138

Too corrupt leftinportland Jun 2016 #48

Show me some criminal charges or you are just saying stuff that sounds bad to you for attention bravenak Jun 2016 #51

I'm the last one around here that needs attention... leftinportland Jun 2016 #96

Cant tell bravenak Jun 2016 #99

She'd be the first woman and Sanders would be the first Jewish guy Peachhead22 Jun 2016 #59

Well. She will reach her mark by Tuesday and we can move on bravenak Jun 2016 #62

Agree that for many, the sexism cannot be ignored, at the same time you have to admit AuntPatsy Jun 2016 #61

I don't think anybody is going to please everybody bravenak Jun 2016 #63

I agree completely mcar Jun 2016 #64

This is almost over!! bravenak Jun 2016 #65

The issue is her conservatism on key issues, not her gender. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #66

That is not what this thread is about bravenak Jun 2016 #67

I'd be interested to see some examples TeddyR Jun 2016 #72

Go look for them if you are feeling a desire to see such bravenak Jun 2016 #73

So you have none? TeddyR Jun 2016 #81

I don't run a link farm or ranch or orchard, even bravenak Jun 2016 #84

Very fitting TeddyR Jun 2016 #86

Umm hmm bravenak Jun 2016 #87

Indeed mcar Jun 2016 #122

Seriously bravenak Jun 2016 #123

There you go ruining a perfectly good rant with facts.... truebrit71 Jun 2016 #136

Hear, hear!!!! Beacool Jun 2016 #74

I resent being called sexist TheFarseer Jun 2016 #85

Who wrote your name in this op? Not me. bravenak Jun 2016 #94

If you're not talking about Bernie voters TheFarseer Jun 2016 #117

The only Thatcher thing I saw came from a Hillary supporter's twitter feed. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #91

I saw it here and it was hidden bravenak Jun 2016 #100

.... Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #104

I guess you win, congratulations. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #111

How is comparing a woman that wants to be POTUS to other woman that have been head of state sexist? azurnoir Jun 2016 #203

It IS the right time, and she IS NOT the right woman. And frankly... cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #92

I don't care if you don't care bravenak Jun 2016 #93

Thank you, brave! It is very obvious now that Sanders' feels extremely comfortable in R B Garr Jun 2016 #97

Perfect!!!! You said what I feel. bravenak Jun 2016 #101

"Moral preening"! NastyRiffraff Jun 2016 #108

"Get used to imperfect women being able to do the same exact things as imperfect men." Il_Coniglietto Jun 2016 #98

Kinda obvious what is going on here... bravenak Jun 2016 #109

Isn't it? Il_Coniglietto Jun 2016 #112

I am so glad we can pass the torch from him to her bravenak Jun 2016 #113

Yes!! My other favorite mental image is Il_Coniglietto Jun 2016 #114

I want a tshirt please bravenak Jun 2016 #115

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2016 #196

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #118

Jury results. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #119

Good hide bravenak Jun 2016 #120

Yes it was. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #121

A very good hide indeed still_one Jun 2016 #150

Excellent Hide.. 7-Zip! They have nothing without their disingenuous personal attacks. Cha Jun 2016 #159

Total bullshit. I lived through Thatcher and about the only meaningful difference... truebrit71 Jun 2016 #125

bravenak---THANK YOU!!!!! YES! I speak as another woman who is sick of the double standard! skylucy Jun 2016 #126

No prob!!!! This is getting annoying!! bravenak Jun 2016 #129

You left out too dishonest, too crooked and too many ties to the Banksters. n/t brewens Jun 2016 #127

Nope!!!! Thanks anywayz. bravenak Jun 2016 #130

I see how prevalent your sexism is... k8conant Jun 2016 #139

None of us Clinton supporters chose our candidate based on sex, either. PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #146

Thank you bravenak Jun 2016 #147

Your post is quite possibly the most humorous thing I've ever read on this site. jack_krass Jun 2016 #171

I think you'd have to be crazy to support Bernie over Hillary if you're a woman and BreakfastClub Jun 2016 #160

I understand what you're saying, but I don't agree k8conant Jun 2016 #184

I read a lot of adjectives and descriptors Tragl1 Jun 2016 #148

Well, I'm talkin about these other people bravenak Jun 2016 #151

Fair point Tragl1 Jun 2016 #153

Watch Trump quit the race when he slips down to 35 percent bravenak Jun 2016 #154

Honestly Tragl1 Jun 2016 #155

I think you might be right about that bravenak Jun 2016 #157

Too hawkish? Too conservative? Too corrupt? Too Nixonian? Bad Thoughts Jun 2016 #149

I was talkin about sexism, not whatever strawman you wanna tear up bravenak Jun 2016 #152

You seem to want to attribute any opposition to her to sexism k8conant Jun 2016 #185

No. Some of it is rightwing nonsense bravenak Jun 2016 #188

None of those labels seem particularly TRUE either. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #222

They are all debatable Bad Thoughts Jun 2016 #225

Thank you for this, bravenak.. Hillary is too strong and too smart for all of them. She rises Cha Jun 2016 #161

And we rise together bravenak Jun 2016 #162

FFS, most these "sexist" hillary haters LOVE Warren? You deny she is a woman? Nt Logical Jun 2016 #164

They save the nasty stuff for Hillary bravenak Jun 2016 #165

It is not sexist, it is her. Not a great dem. Warren is! Nt Logical Jun 2016 #166

I think both are bravenak Jun 2016 #167

Yes, they all claim to just LOVE the woman who doesn't have the ambition pnwmom Jun 2016 #168

Warren is a real liberal! Hillary is not. All she is is better than trump. Nt Logical Jun 2016 #169

bravenak, thank you, thank you, thank you. pnwmom Jun 2016 #172

You're welcome... bravenak Jun 2016 #173

This is exactly what is happening with the new Ghostbusters trailer as well. MinnesotaRob Jun 2016 #175

I disagree bravenak Jun 2016 #177

John Stuart Mill Whimsey Jun 2016 #176

I need to re read it bravenak Jun 2016 #178

Go back and read chapter 3 Whimsey Jun 2016 #181

Uh huh. Just like claims that the mob helped elect JFK were anti-Catholic. Identical, really, except merrily Jun 2016 #180

Huh? What's your point? Whimsey Jun 2016 #182

My point is that claims of fraud are not sexist. And JFK never played a victim card when merrily Jun 2016 #183

Claims of fraud are also not TRUE. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #211

Claims of fraud or fraudulent claims? Whimsey Jun 2016 #226

What part of "anti-Catholic" did you misread as "sexist?" merrily Jun 2016 #227

I was being purposely obtuse Whimsey Jun 2016 #229

Gee, almost every reply I've been getting from Hillary supporters lately flattens a straw man I neve merrily Jun 2016 #230

I wonder what Freud would say Whimsey Jun 2016 #231

um, o.k. merrily Jun 2016 #232

+1, "Get used to imperfect women being able to do the same exact things as imperfect men" uponit7771 Jun 2016 #186

They better learn to cope bravenak Jun 2016 #194

Its going to take a while, all the "other" people running things is going to drive em even battier uponit7771 Jun 2016 #199

Can't it simply be that Hillary is just too moderate for some of us? BigBoss26 Jun 2016 #187

I never said all opposition is sexism bravenak Jun 2016 #190

You kind of are though. You gave a laundry list of real criticisms and dismissed them all as sexism. BigBoss26 Jun 2016 #201

K & R SunSeeker Jun 2016 #197

Thank you Bravenak!!!!! all american girl Jun 2016 #198

Yes. "Get used to imperfect women being able to do the same exact things as imperfect men... ancianita Jun 2016 #200

"She is going to be Candidate Hillary running against Donald Trump whether you think ..." Scuba Jun 2016 #204

You will have to learn coping skills bravenak Jun 2016 #205

I'm not in your way, and as I've posted here many times, I'll hold my nose real tight in November .. Scuba Jun 2016 #206

No. The op does NOT say it is only sexism bravenak Jun 2016 #207

No, of course not. Scuba Jun 2016 #208

Comparing her to Margaret Thatcher = Sexist? lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #224

Comparing her to Thatcher is completely sexist realmirage Jun 2016 #233

No, I don't. nt lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #234

"Perfect" was never a concern. Orsino Jun 2016 #235

This part was a mic drop bravenak Jun 2016 #236

I do think Hillary Clinton became a contender in spite of every cultural barrier... Orsino Jun 2016 #237

There is a difference between a PERSON that is thought to be crooked and too right leaning. Just Seeinghope Jun 2016 #238