2016 Postmortem

Fuddnik

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102. The thing is, nobody in power gave a shit.

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 11:51 PM

Jun 2016

I was part of a team investigating voting machine "irregularities" in Florida. We took our findings to former Congresswoman Karen Thurman, then the Florida Democratic Chair in 2005. She pooh-poohed the whole thing, and just brushed us off.

In 2006, we had sworn affidavits from voters who had "voted" but swore they DID NOT VOTE in that election. 5 Democratic congressional candidates filed a lawsuit alleging fraud, and the Dems in the US House swept it under the rug, and somehow got 4 of the candidates to drop the suit.

Now the Florida Democratic Party is run by a former ChoicePoint (voter purge 2000) employee and lobbyist. Her husband also happened to be on the Bush v Gore legal team. On the Bush side.

This is probably my last election, and I just plain don't give a flying fish anymore.

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Election Integrity Project: "We have never seen such widespread mismanagement or manipulation of the [View all] J_J_ Jun 2016 OP

I do, I do. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #1

As a journalist, have you heard reports/complaints of vote "mismanagement/manipulation" ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #3

Perfect! Great question ... excellent phrasing ... deserving of a response. Well done! NurseJackie Jun 2016 #6

Call-out of another DUer by requesting info you know will not be forthcoming. randome Jun 2016 #8

Actually, it was a sincere question ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #12

And as I explained bellow Common Cause also noticed the same exact pattern nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #20

But 1SBM asked what reports you personally have heard. n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #106

It was a smart question in more ways than one. It's natural for people not to question Cal33 Jun 2016 #125

You're being sarcastic, right? Why should 1SBM know the poster won't answer? n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #105

Yes, it was sarcastic. randome Jun 2016 #115

My beat is San Diego (I think we are in California, perhaps I am mistaken) nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #9

It was a sincere question ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #11

"No" nt LexVegas Jun 2016 #15

Common Cause saw the same pattern nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #18

That doesn't answer the question ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #24

Public Records Request, and I am sure the SOS will hate it nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #33

And yet, besides the ambiguous "Common Sense" reference ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #39

Common Cause, you can go look it up nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #41

Or, you can provide me a link so that I know we're working with the same analysis/report ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #49

Or I can not do that work for you nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #50

Okay ... That's a strange position for a journalist to take ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #54

What not to want to engage with somebody who asked a question that I do not think is sincere nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #55

LOL ... Okay ... LOL 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #56

Yup funny, how far we have gone nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #58

What does my "good faith" have to do with YOU providing a source for YOUR assertion? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #60

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #62

My "fucking proof" ... wouldn't that be your "fucking proof", presumably supportive of ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #67

Nah you can think what you want nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #68

I know the Protect the Vote people and have spoken at a couple of their events Gothmog Jun 2016 #95

Thank you for your good work ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #98

I am part of the Victory Counsel program for Clinton that requires you to be licensed Gothmog Jun 2016 #99

Please send me the contact info. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #101

Your "Proof" is a fund raising email ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #71

I am embarrassed for you...to be so blind nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #73

Please, don't be. You don't have any embarrassment to spare. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #84

"...A curious position for a journalist to take." Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #117

The STANDARD Answer Here Is To Ask FOR A LINK... ChiciB1 Jun 2016 #119

Or, people ask for links because so much that appears on the internet, and DU (of late) ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #120

EIP is also a Tea Party group like True the Vote WhollyHeretic Jun 2016 #51

And I am positive common cause is too? nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #57

That is quite an imagination you have. I didn't say a word about common cause. WhollyHeretic Jun 2016 #63

Yup I got quite the imagination nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #64

Okay ... This is just nuts ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #66

That was EASILY the most embarrassing dismantling I've ever seen here. Well done Number23 Jun 2016 #81

Do absolutely nothing, that is the best way to act nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #82

Interesting ... I didn't know that ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #59

And, to review, in the end there was NO credible source about ANY election fraud. Anywhere. Squinch Jun 2016 #83

I was too tired to close that loop. Thanks. And, to answer my seminal question ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #86

But something caused a riot in 1943, too. Squinch Jun 2016 #87

Nope ... it was President Obama secret ambition to cut Social Security ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #91

My head is spinning! My stomach feels all iggidy! Squinch Jun 2016 #92

But what did you see or hear or become aware of, in your professional capacity pnwmom Jun 2016 #107

Do you have a link to the "report"? Was it a Face-book screen shot? Or, Reddit? 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #116

It was here, on DU. pnwmom Jun 2016 #124

They don't care now, but will care when the Republicans do it. That's a right wing mentality. Right GoneFishin Jun 2016 #13

Not right wing, PARTISAN nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #19

I actually do see hypocrisy as a generally right wing trait. And I do consider people who call GoneFishin Jun 2016 #27

On this one it is just partisan nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #31

Ok. No problem. GoneFishin Jun 2016 #34

I'll take a gander... I am going to say NO, in the states that Sanders won, we did NOT see... Raster Jun 2016 #25

I wasn't "phishing" for an answer ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #30

You might not like my answer since it will be seen as partisan nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #32

I'm curious how answering that question would be seen as partisan? 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #38

Anything I post is seen as partisan nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #40

Curiouser ... I don't recall EVER discussing the 1943 L.A. riots with you ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #47

Curious that you do not know the history of how we actually got to 1994 nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #48

Okay ... This is really getting weird. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #53

Looks like PepperHarlan Jun 2016 #114

Just as well ... I had reached my daily victim-creation quota ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #121

My apologies, these days on DU it's a bit difficult to determine the sincere questions... Raster Jun 2016 #35

Thanks ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #44

There could be many other responses. Raster Jun 2016 #46

I would too ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #52

Ultimately 1SBM, I think we (as a Party and as a Country) need to make sure... Raster Jun 2016 #69

Oh, Raster ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #72

I disagree. Questions were raised about the fairness and equality of the Democratic primary... Raster Jun 2016 #74

Sme of us have raised questions since 2000 nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #76

I heartily concur. Selection 2000 should have been our "wake up and smell the coffee" moment... Raster Jun 2016 #77

Exactly nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #79

"That poster" asked a question that was never answered. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #90

The thing is, nobody in power gave a shit. Fuddnik Jun 2016 #102

Interesting ... Did you retain any of what you uncovered ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #123

True that. Since 2,000 I've blasted the DNC in all-caps for knowingly letting it to go on, ancianita Jun 2016 #88

I don't know what you are referring to here ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #85

Almost all the purported problems came from people who had incorrectly pnwmom Jun 2016 #111

Election protection and election law is one of my areas Gothmog Jun 2016 #93

Would this ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #2

Why do people only complain about elections IN THE MIDST of elections? DetlefK Jun 2016 #4

See post 102 above. Fuddnik Jun 2016 #103

I have never seen such widespread problems with voter registration rolls. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #5

Democrats did nothing about what happened in 2000 when they had the chance. corkhead Jun 2016 #10

exactly J_J_ Jun 2016 #22

New Democrats do anyway. nt valerief Jun 2016 #29

"those" people Dem2 Jun 2016 #122

Republicans had a closed primary and only one candidate still in the race. pnwmom Jun 2016 #108

Not every state was close and one candidate. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #110

The OP and discussion here is about California. Have you closely studied pnwmom Jun 2016 #112

Seeing as NPP voters are not in fact requried to vote with provisional ballot, this seems to be BS. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #7

You apparently have low information about what happened. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #14

That is true. The state didnt' read their mind to know they wanted a Dem ballot. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #16

Or the state ignored what they said. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #17

No, you have incorrect information Retrograde Jun 2016 #26

Your information is just as 'low." Republicans had a closed primary open only to R's. n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #109

From my niece who lives in CA. Jennylynn Jun 2016 #21

I had to repeat the words cross over ballots twice nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #23

Maybe someone from The Guardian will look into this. We certainly don't expect U.S. "journalists" to valerief Jun 2016 #28

So will Hill fans call the Election Integrity Project "Conspiracy Theorists?" senz Jun 2016 #36

Maybe you should do a little reading on them WhollyHeretic Jun 2016 #42

We have group like in Texas called True the Vote Gothmog Jun 2016 #96

How about Tea Party activists? Il_Coniglietto Jun 2016 #43

K & R AzDar Jun 2016 #37

You realize that is a tea party group? Related to True the Vote WhollyHeretic Jun 2016 #45

The Voting Rights Act was just gutted recently gollygee Jun 2016 #61

They are ok with it as long as they can do that to people like me and you nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #65

Thread Winner! Raster Jun 2016 #70

It will get worse until we have a constitutional RIGHT to vote Ferd Berfel Jun 2016 #75

Needed for the Constitution: Raster Jun 2016 #78

The full second bill of rights nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #80

Not direct manipulation of the polls but this video is interesting regards google search. PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #89

Thanks. Interesting. 840high Jun 2016 #104

HUGE NEWS IN THIS VIDEO: LAWSUITS BEING FILED... kadaholo Jun 2016 #94

That lawsuit appears to be based on some wild CT based on exit polls being 100% accurate Gothmog Jun 2016 #97

Funny... kadaholo Jun 2016 #100

I watched the sad and silly party of the video discussing the lawsuit Gothmog Jun 2016 #118

Reminder: Exit Poll Conspiracy Theories Are Totally Baseless creeksneakers2 Jun 2016 #113

Elections are not the results of exit polls in which a different answer can be provided than Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #126