2016 Postmortem

MariaThinks

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118. The answer is clear

Fri Jun 10, 2016, 01:16 PM

Jun 2016

Many will vote for Hillary, some won't.

Here's an example: I want a $10,000 raise. I'll take anything over $1000. I'm not going to want 0 or worse, to have no job.

Any true progressive will vote Hillary if they wanted Bernie. Why? Because the evil is the republican party, now extended through TRUMP.

Anyone who says BUST, is not a progressive and we would never have their vote. To get the vote from this group, we would have to enact policies that will lose the vote of many other people and let the republicans win.

Obviously the people who post on this board, myself included, are more passionate and interested in politics than the average. Also, someone can say they really want Bernie, and post stuff about Hillary, and be posers. Who really knows?

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Will Bernie Fans Vote For Hillary? (TYT Poll RESULTS) [View all] pdsimdars Jun 2016 OP

If it comes down to it Faux pas Jun 2016 #1

you can't write a name down in the general election.... chillfactor Jun 2016 #2

I will not vote for Hillary because Time for change Jun 2016 #3

What fraud are you talking about? democrattotheend Jun 2016 #10

It's a lot more than that Time for change Jun 2016 #18

You've talked yourself into this. Time to let it go. NT Adrahil Jun 2016 #26

I don't need or want advice from you. Please don't waste my time by ever giving me advice again Time for change Jun 2016 #111

anger issues? MariaThinks Jun 2016 #117

Yes, comments like the one that I responded to make me angry Time for change Jun 2016 #130

Republicans stacking the supreme court with their stooges to corrupt the judicial, tax, health care MariaThinks Jun 2016 #133

But you're okay with a Wall Street-friendly SCOTUS? senz Jun 2016 #160

Yeah, that and election fraud make me very angry. Time for change Jun 2016 #169

When you post an opinion on a public discussion forum, you MineralMan Jun 2016 #195

And if you post unwanted advice you should expect a response letting you know that the advice is Time for change Jun 2016 #202

As you please... MineralMan Jun 2016 #210

Ya think? Chan790 Jun 2016 #177

She is not alone, Adrahil. Duval Jun 2016 #144

So she's not involved metroins Jun 2016 #56

I didn't say she wasn't involved Time for change Jun 2016 #114

It's a conspiracy theory metroins Jun 2016 #127

Actually, minus the election fraud he doesn't lose Time for change Jun 2016 #170

Please announce the cities metroins Jun 2016 #172

See my link at post # 18 of this thread Time for change Jun 2016 #193

Bernie lost because he lancer78 Jun 2016 #174

Moreso because of massive voter suppression/election fraud Time for change Jun 2016 #203

Lol lancer78 Jun 2016 #211

we dont see it that way, and its election fraud, not voter swhisper1 Jun 2016 #217

I get what you are saying, but why punish Hillary and more importantly this country democrattotheend Jun 2016 #62

The purpose is not to punish Hillary Time for change Jun 2016 #119

what makes you think she was not complicit? swhisper1 Jun 2016 #218

You included Arizona in your list dbackjon Jun 2016 #72

Hillary was not hurt worse than Bernie by voter suppression in AZ Time for change Jun 2016 #120

Yes I read it dbackjon Jun 2016 #134

So what part of my discussion of the Arizona prmary do you not understand or disagree with Time for change Jun 2016 #173

And you have nothing to back up dbackjon Jun 2016 #175

See post 18 in this thread for my references Time for change Jun 2016 #205

You have no evidence just your speculation dbackjon Jun 2016 #212

Apparently you don't know what evidence is Time for change Jun 2016 #224

I do know what evidence is obviously you don't dbackjon Jun 2016 #225

The fraud is rampant. They won't and can't acknowledge it. In fact they are already trying to GoneFishin Jun 2016 #204

Do some reading. Why should people have to explain it over and over. There are plenty of articles pdsimdars Jun 2016 #22

no, it was national organized election fraud- too many to be coincidence swhisper1 Jun 2016 #219

Selective editing and made-up numbers are not election fraud. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #14

I don't believe everything I read Time for change Jun 2016 #19

And you need to stop calling Duers ignorant or leave. leftofcool Jun 2016 #45

I don't think you get to decide wether I leave or not Time for change Jun 2016 #121

No, it is not appropriate. Please read the TOS leftofcool Jun 2016 #131

TwilightZone essentially called me a liar Time for change Jun 2016 #167

Check out the wannabe admin! bvf Jun 2016 #187

they really need their own forum site. swhisper1 Jun 2016 #220

If you have Trump and his cohorts for 4 or 8 years it won't matter. The US as RKP5637 Jun 2016 #102

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #108

Your insulting comments about one of our most decent leaders Time for change Jun 2016 #122

As is an assumption that everyone in the world wanted to vote for this so called "decent leader," NNadir Jun 2016 #129

Hillary only talks about herself too. notadmblnd Jun 2016 #154

Totally agree. If there had been ample debates not scheduled during football games, policy GoneFishin Jun 2016 #163

No- you're free to cast a write-in vote; if you want to help Dinald Trump brooklynite Jun 2016 #4

Votes for Sanders aren't added to Trumps total. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #5

EXACTLY! She is a weak, flawed candidate under FBI criminal investigation with the pdsimdars Jun 2016 #23

And after attacking Sanders supporters... HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #25

Precisely. No thank you. pinebox Jun 2016 #33

+1 sandyshoes17 Jun 2016 #52

Perfect phrase "special kind of stupid" pdsimdars Jun 2016 #78

+1 exactly 840high Jun 2016 #112

Word to the herd. mac56 Jun 2016 #123

That's shows a misunderstanding of how our system works. Adrahil Jun 2016 #30

Perspective of what "group"? pinebox Jun 2016 #35

DEMOCRATS Adrahil Jun 2016 #37

Uh no sorry pinebox Jun 2016 #41

You can believe that, but the reality of the system is that one will win. Adrahil Jun 2016 #44

I do believe it pinebox Jun 2016 #47

Not even CLOSE to the same scenario. Adrahil Jun 2016 #50

Actually it is pinebox Jun 2016 #54

+1000 and a standing Ovation!!! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #67

Thank you. pinebox Jun 2016 #70

Thank YOU, pinebox. Duval Jun 2016 #146

Bravo! Thank you. senz Jun 2016 #164

So after DNClinton and supporters marginalize and insult Sanders supporters,... HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #58

Democrats alone cannot help her win. Jackilope Jun 2016 #59

You have a choice to make. Help Hillary defeat Trump, or not. Adrahil Jun 2016 #80

Awesome! Glamrock Jun 2016 #77

The reality is that one or the other will win. Adrahil Jun 2016 #82

This should be an OP Separation Jun 2016 #142

"disconnect from the for profit prison system" <<< she will never do it bruv AntiBank Jun 2016 #206

0 still equals 0 840high Jun 2016 #180

I've said since after NY that she's not going to beat Trump Jennylynn Jun 2016 #179

Bernie was the weaker candidate. He couldn't win the Democratic primary. redstateblues Jun 2016 #201

Maybe 30 years ago when there was a left party and a right party. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #55

People who don't live in swing states can vote anyway they like Arazi Jun 2016 #60

Bernie pushed her to the Left until Inauguration Day and then.... Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #68

Yes, her untrustworthiness plays a major role. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #101

Excuse me. Howler Jun 2016 #110

Silly buggers talk about "the math" for months and yet can't even grasp addition. TheKentuckian Jun 2016 #148

Thank you. n/t senz Jun 2016 #162

This is not true... Sivart Jun 2016 #8

Chillax. That poster lives in Oregon democrattotheend Jun 2016 #9

Incorrect. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #12

43 states currently allow write in candidates. TalkingDog Jun 2016 #24

You're incorrect. It depends upon which state you're in. pinebox Jun 2016 #31

If there is a line for "Other", you most certainly can. -none Jun 2016 #49

Another mis-statement by a Hillary Supporter. Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #65

Not true catnhatnh Jun 2016 #92

It varies from state to state. Paka Jun 2016 #166

link for this assertion? Sounds like slag to me. roguevalley Jun 2016 #207

Here are the instructions for writing in the name of a Presidential Candidate in Maryland Samantha Jun 2016 #183

Thank you Faux pas Jun 2016 #190

My pleasure, Faux pas Samantha Jun 2016 #213

Who gives a flying shag what Uygur has to say...irrelevant and inconsequential bombast. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #6

What a hypocrite this guy is... Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #11

He's a hypocrite because he's reporting choie Jun 2016 #15

Petty and thin-skinned defines their very nature. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #27

He used to be a hero here when this was still an "underground". But DU is now the establishment. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2016 #32

NEVER, since I first heard him years ago, has this overbearing blowhard been my hero. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #36

I didn't say YOUR hero. He WAS a DU hero when this was an "underground", that is a FACT. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2016 #40

Yes. nt Duval Jun 2016 #149

I do. 840high Jun 2016 #113

Yep, he loved Ron Paul, used to talk him up all the time... Spazito Jun 2016 #125

Former Bush voter said what now? JoePhilly Jun 2016 #7

Irrelevant. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #13

You might want to choie Jun 2016 #17

+1000 Time for change Jun 2016 #20

SNAP and double SNAP Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #69

Oh so let's attack the guy in the video? Deflection pinebox Jun 2016 #38

Some will, some won't. That's life. bigwillq Jun 2016 #16

I live in NY, if Clinton gets the nod RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #21

New Jersey here! Nedsdag Jun 2016 #136

You have to vote Hillary cause Trump is scary!!!! seabeckind Jun 2016 #28

Of course he doesn't scare you leftofcool Jun 2016 #46

I assume you are straight then. dbackjon Jun 2016 #75

god, another confused one who doesn't know the difference between reality and talking points. pdsimdars Jun 2016 #79

No, I am not a deluded Bernie supporter dbackjon Jun 2016 #84

then you better get behind Bernie, because Hillary will lose to Trump. pdsimdars Jun 2016 #86

The Clintons were there for the LGBT Community in the 90's dbackjon Jun 2016 #93

I remember that... don't ask, don't tell, wasn't it? n/t seabeckind Jun 2016 #96

Which was a step better than the outright ban before dbackjon Jun 2016 #97

It wasn't a big step at all. seabeckind Jun 2016 #100

It was a big step. dbackjon Jun 2016 #106

So why did the head brain sign it? seabeckind Jun 2016 #115

You are clueless. dbackjon Jun 2016 #140

Sorry, you are the poor clueless soul here. litlbilly Jun 2016 #216

Likewise. okasha Jun 2016 #116

Really. Just Love being told what my lifes experiences actually were. Amimnoch Jun 2016 #138

That comment works both ways, doesn't it? n/t seabeckind Jun 2016 #188

No it doesn't. Amimnoch Jun 2016 #189

How the f' would YOU know my experiences? seabeckind Jun 2016 #194

Am I wrong? Were you in? Enlighten me. Amimnoch Jun 2016 #196

I care about facts as they are presented. seabeckind Jun 2016 #198

Sooo.. Don't know. Don't care. Don't want to know. Amimnoch Jun 2016 #199

Thanks very much for reinforcing exactly what I said. seabeckind Jun 2016 #200

LOL, those who didn't benefit from it don't get it. Amimnoch Jun 2016 #137

Thank you for your service and your personal experience dbackjon Jun 2016 #139

Really, if DOMA or DADT was passed now, there'd be good reason to criticize. Amimnoch Jun 2016 #143

Here you go Mother Of Four Jun 2016 #145

No one is claiming that Bernie is the enemy dbackjon Jun 2016 #165

∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆This Amimnoch Jun 2016 #191

To expand my own feelings on DB's response above... Amimnoch Jun 2016 #192

Outside of the DU bubble, Clinton is widely considered the favorite. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #90

Not in my state. seabeckind Jun 2016 #103

not in my state either- she got only 30 % and that was dems only swhisper1 Jun 2016 #221

I likely just won't go vote at all. Not worth the hassle if it's not for Bernie (not that 1 vote eve MillennialDem Jun 2016 #29

One of our local mayors won by 1 vote. PADemD Jun 2016 #39

Usually everything in my area is unopposed, unfortunately. Down ballot the only MillennialDem Jun 2016 #53

Feingold is worth voting for. stillwaiting Jun 2016 #64

Lots of downballot stuff for me to vote on. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #42

please vote bernies choice for downticket swhisper1 Jun 2016 #222

Absolutely not pengu Jun 2016 #34

Were you pissed when the bernie campaign stole data from Hillary? leftofcool Jun 2016 #48

The DNC, backing Hillary, had full control of the data server you are referencing. -none Jun 2016 #51

You really should read that legal brief again. leftofcool Jun 2016 #76

^^^^^^^^^^^ Amen! ^^^^^^^^^^^ pdsimdars Jun 2016 #81

Sing it loud! 840high Jun 2016 #181

Why do BoBers love bullshit internet polls? qdouble Jun 2016 #43

Like most other Hillary supporters, you didn't actually BOTHER yourself with actually WATCHING pdsimdars Jun 2016 #83

Are you being obtuse? qdouble Jun 2016 #91

Almost every analysis regarding this primary that has been prestented on their still_one Jun 2016 #57

Wow, a Diehard Berniefan group polls Diehard Berniefans. Results are shocking! Tarc Jun 2016 #61

If we go by online polls, Bernie's the nominee itsrobert Jun 2016 #63

He says it's not a scientific poll but ... Yonnie3 Jun 2016 #66

He made it quite clear. You just don't like the results. pdsimdars Jun 2016 #85

No, it really doesn't say something. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #87

You are not correct ... Yonnie3 Jun 2016 #98

well, don't misrepresent the truth demwing Jun 2016 #147

Right RAFisher Jun 2016 #209

The DNC, IMO, set this up so that Ds would be obligated to vote for HRC libdem4life Jun 2016 #71

A Never Hillary Vote... kadaholo Jun 2016 #73

tick tock tick tock grossproffit Jun 2016 #99

No, it's more like "drip, drip, drip". Duval Jun 2016 #151

If you are a Bernie fan, and don't vote Blue dbackjon Jun 2016 #74

Well, right back at ya. If you supported someone who has been against your issues pdsimdars Jun 2016 #88

Sanders and Clinton have good support for LGBT issues dbackjon Jun 2016 #95

Wrong again Bob. pdsimdars Jun 2016 #104

Stop pretending you know shit dbackjon Jun 2016 #105

. Orrex Jun 2016 #128

I guess if you hadn't said you supported Hillary I would have known, because of the reversion pdsimdars Jun 2016 #214

+1 sarae Jun 2016 #161

Iranian lives could be voided by Hillary Herman4747 Jun 2016 #178

That's worse than I thought. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #89

It's really too bad that Hillary and crew will likely swing to the Right, instead of embracing these highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #94

All of this does not change anything for November. sadoldgirl Jun 2016 #107

this one won't. #bernieorbust #neverhillary nt restorefreedom Jun 2016 #109

The answer is clear MariaThinks Jun 2016 #118

+1000 sarae Jun 2016 #159

Somehow, I don't think that's going to move the prediction markets a whole lot. NuclearDem Jun 2016 #124

Objective polls say 9 out of 10 Bernie fans will back Hillary. Dawson Leery Jun 2016 #126

Good luck with that fantasy. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #153

And that's all Hillary and also her supporters have. . . slogans and smears. They seem to pdsimdars Jun 2016 #155

lol 840high Jun 2016 #182

TYT are almost holding the same record of wrong interpretations as Dick Morris still_one Jun 2016 #132

Did we really get TYT, online poll results and an embedded video in the same OP? Godhumor Jun 2016 #135

People won't vote for a candidate clearly hostile to them felix_numinous Jun 2016 #141

+1 840high Jun 2016 #184

I didn't vote for her in the primay and can't see a viable reason to vote for her in November. k&r Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #150

Survey USA doesn't agree still_one Jun 2016 #152

No chance in hell. onecaliberal Jun 2016 #156

Wow its the 10th of June MFM008 Jun 2016 #157

Not the least big surprising. senz Jun 2016 #158

TYT?? Cenk Uygur? Most Democrats have never heard of him. Lil Missy Jun 2016 #168

Ask around. rickford66 Jun 2016 #171

You kidding? 840high Jun 2016 #185

Cenk is the left Hannity/Morris/Kristol/Beck rolled into one. Dawson Leery Jun 2016 #215

abuse of power moth33 Jun 2016 #176

yep 840high Jun 2016 #186

Not this one. PowerToThePeople Jun 2016 #197

I really despise calling supporters of candidates "fans" icecreamfan Jun 2016 #208

thats how I see Hillbots- rabid fans swhisper1 Jun 2016 #223

An actual Scientific poll by Survey USA indicates 6 times as many Sanders supporters would still_one Jun 2016 #226