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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Henry Kissinger, Hillary Clinton’s Tutor in War and Peace [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)120. The Once and Future Kissinger
A little reminder from us old folks who still remember Nixon and Vietnam:
With George W. Bush in Austin, Texas, July 2000.
The Once and Future Kissinger
As another failed war threatens to tarnish his legacy, Henry Kissinger attempts to clarify his recordby evading, skirting, stretching, hedging, and stonewalling like the diplomatic master he is.
By Joe Hagan
New York Magazine, Oct. 24, 2007
EXCERPT...
You can see why this Iraq business so vexes Kissinger. He hardly needs another quagmire around his neckespecially after he played this one so carefully. When the neoconservatives began driving foreign policy after 9/11, the consummate realist hedged his bets and supported the decision to invade Iraq. There were caveats galore, of course: Kissinger said postwar reconstruction of Iraq would require U.N. involvement and international diplomacy and that he was opposed to occupying a Muslim nation in order to reeducate the country. He also said preemptive war as a doctrine was a bad idea, except in rare instances.
His standing on Iraq was so nuanced the New York Times included him in a list of prominent Republicans who objected to the waronly to print a tortured editors note amending the report after right-wing critics attacked the paper for misrepresenting his views. Im not sure the Times got it wrong, says Walter Isaacson, the president of the Aspen Institute, a former Time managing editor, and the author of the biography Kissinger. They just pinned him down when he wanted to stay unpinned.
At New York dinner parties before the invasion in 2003, Kissinger related to friends that he was very concerned that there was no plan for what happens after they bring it down and topple it, recounts one associate. He predicted to a group of people at a dinner that it would end in civil war.
SNIP...
In the vetting process, however, Kissinger ran into a snag. Five years after he left office, the former secretary of State had founded the consulting firm Kissinger Associates and established himself as a kind of diplomatic fixer who could work the back rooms of Moscow, Beijing, and Riyadh for corporations needing influence. He charges $200,000 (a reported $50,000 just to walk through the door) to consult for companies like Freeport-McMoRan Copper & Gold Inc., a mining company with assets in Indonesia. As much as Kissinger wanted to be the nations healer, he valued his business interests more. When Congress requested that he reveal his consulting firms client list, he stepped down from the commission.
Nonetheless, Kissinger remained a favorite administration ally, appointed by Donald Rumsfeld to the Defense Policy Board, the outgoing secretary of Defenses personal think tank. And Cheney told Woodward last year that George W. Bush is a big fan. Hes not alone, of course. Kissinger is, after all, a foreign policy genius emeritus, whose exacting skills as a strategic thinker have made him an indispensable adviser to many leaders of the free world. And hes certainly the guy you call when youre planning to wage war in the worlds most complicated geopolitical hot spot.
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You are most welcome, Uncle Joe. Thank you for grokking -- and thank you for caring.
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Bill Clinton, the Lippo Group, and Jackson Stephens of Little Rock, Arkansas (5th Version) 1999
Octafish
Jun 2016
#19
You support white supremacist Paul Craig Roberts. Your argument is invalid. nt
Dr Hobbitstein
Jun 2016
#70
And you've shown DU that you'll believe any far-fetched conspiracy and bring it back to the BFEE.
Dr Hobbitstein
Jun 2016
#72
I hope I've shown DU that I'm not scared to call out supporters of white supremacists,
Dr Hobbitstein
Jun 2016
#79
Here's a more current link for your analysis Doc-its still open for those that can read.
bobthedrummer
Jun 2016
#101
A conversation with yourself about woo sites? I'll pass (as did everyone else).
Dr Hobbitstein
Jun 2016
#109
No, it's code for Conspiracy Theorist. I never called anyone Better Believe It nt
Dr Hobbitstein
Jun 2016
#112
How come you are not trotting out the Trump/Hillary wedding pictures any more?
Sheepshank
Jun 2016
#5
So, show the first you find in what I've posted on this or any thread that's not true.
Octafish
Jun 2016
#18
It's important for those interested in Democratic Action, not Kissinger Action.
Octafish
Jun 2016
#16
The Last Man of the Junta: Open Letter to Henry Kissinger from One of Pinochet's Political Prisoners
Octafish
Jun 2016
#39
K&R Embracing an evil war criminal: all one needs to know (combined with record of reckless Neo Con
amborin
Jun 2016
#23
Emails expose close ties between Hillary Clinton and accused war criminal Henry Kissinger
Octafish
Jun 2016
#67
I would respond to this calumny in my inimitable way but Skinner asked me to be nice.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2016
#53
I would respond to this calumny in my inimitable way but Skinner asked me to be nice.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2016
#59
I am trying to help you. I want you around after we go into G E mode
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2016
#66
Banksters! BCCI and Marc Rich were two of those thousand points of green light.
Octafish
Jun 2016
#89
An intelligent person listens to ALL opinions. It helps in not repeating those same mistakes.
tonyt53
Jun 2016
#103
If Kissinger has a house in the DR that he, Hillary and Bill go to for holidays, why can't they
2cannan
Jun 2016
#114
Another learning curve kick for the real DU reality-based community. n/t
bobthedrummer
Jun 2016
#140