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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: You know what's WORSE than mass murder? [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)195. Every day, innocent people die -- VICTIMS OF WAR
For example, Syria: 470,000 dead. Dead.
The Death Toll From Syrias War Is Actually 470,000, New Research Claims
The Syrian Center for Policy Research says that 11.5% of Syria's population has been killed or injured
Simon Lewis
TIME (via GUARDIAN) Feb. 11, 2016
The five-year-old war in Syria has claimed 470,000 lives, according to new research that almost doubles previous estimates about the human cost of the conflict.
The Guardian reported details of a report by the Syrian Center for Policy Research, due to be launched in Beirut on Thursday, that says life expectancy in Syria has dropped to just 55.4 years. Before the conflict Syrians could expect to live to the age of 70.
Syrias population was about 21 million when an uprising against the regime of Bashar Assad began in 2011. Antigovernment protests were quelled by a brutal crackdown, sparking a civil war that is now fought by numerous armies, including several radical Islamist groups, and draws funding from myriad foreign powers.
Since the war started, 11.5% of Syrians have been killed or injured, the report says, according to the Guardian. Some 13.8 million Syrians have lost their means of earning a living. Altogether 45% of the prewar population has been forced to move including more than 4 million who have fled the country and 6.36 million displaced within Syria.
The U.N.s human-rights office has estimated that more than 250,000 have died, but gave up recording the fatalities from the war in mid-2014 because it couldnt get hold of reliable data.
The Syrian Center for Policy Research estimates from fact-finding conducted on the ground in Syria that 400,000 people have been killed by the conflict itself, with another 70,000 dying because of the wars knock-on effects inadequate health care and medicine, the spread of disease through unsanitary conditions for the displaced people, and lack of access to food or clean water.
CONTINUED BECAUSE TOO FEW GIVE A DAMN...
http://time.com/4216896/death-toll-syria-war-470000/
Thank you for grokking, senz! Every human life is someone's child or brother or sister or friend -- and their own infinity.
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Yes, we know because she is perfect as we all well know and has never done wrong.
LiberalArkie
Jun 2016
#7
Which makes her subsequent actions as a Secretary of State all the more questionable.
Octafish
Jun 2016
#89
gotta love that bernie guy voting to pay for all this killing every year, year after year nt
msongs
Jun 2016
#3
What grief process is that? I am continuing to work on getting progressives elected
Live and Learn
Jun 2016
#160
and Sanders voted to keep the troops in Afghanistan also. However, it isn't as vile as this OP who
still_one
Jun 2016
#103
From my point of view, you are wrong. Now, immediately, is the time to politicize this
floppyboo
Jun 2016
#179
Right now the Democrats don't have the majority in both house of Congress, so I
still_one
Jun 2016
#192
with a bill you need Congress. The question is could he do an executive action?
still_one
Jun 2016
#190
War is mass murder on an epic scale. At least one candidate apparently doesn't get that. nt
Live and Learn
Jun 2016
#4
You mean the onew that haven't been used. Betting Hillary will find a way to use them. nt
Live and Learn
Jun 2016
#10
Oh so its ok to build weapons of mass destruction and still remain holy as long as you don't
workinclasszero
Jun 2016
#15
Are you saying Hillary wouldn't want these? These were being built with or without Bernie,
Live and Learn
Jun 2016
#19
I can't find it now. I thought back when Charlie Hebdo suspect said Abu Ghraib made him attack.
Octafish
Jun 2016
#214
Bernie said he would continue to use drones. Just that he would do it better. i bet Obama felt the
bettyellen
Jun 2016
#100
There's no comparison to what Sec. Clinton is reported to have done with drones.
Octafish
Jun 2016
#193
How are we supposed to talk about it, other than to condemn the illegal drone strikes
Hydra
Jun 2016
#219
My momma use to always say "Turn tragedy into political opportunism before the bodies are identified
qdouble
Jun 2016
#17
do these two things really need to be compared - one being "worse" than the other?
DrDan
Jun 2016
#22
Three days. 72 hours. 0.42 Weeks. 0.09863 Months. 4320 Minutes. 259200 Seconds. *
NurseJackie
Jun 2016
#44
The poster has a history of linking to homophobic conspiracy theorist writers...
SidDithers
Jun 2016
#92
Yeah, I don't knwo why Bernie voted for Afghanistan...bad decision Bernie. nt
Demsrule86
Jun 2016
#34
Yeah, because a few words on a computer screen may remind people not to kill one another in war.
Octafish
Jun 2016
#51
+ a million. A trifecta of being tasteless, tone deaf and absolutely disgusting
Number23
Jun 2016
#130
I didn't order an illegal, immoral, unnecessary and disastrous invasion of Iraq.
Octafish
Jun 2016
#97
Yeah. I'm trying to stop wars for profit and Dr Hobbitstein is pointing out my hypocrisy.
Octafish
Jun 2016
#64
nope, that isn't what he is saying. He is saying you are using the tragedy in Florida in a not so
still_one
Jun 2016
#101
Congratulations on yet another mindless comparison based on absolutely ...
MrMickeysMom
Jun 2016
#114
''Politics'' being how the wars just keep going and going, no matter who we elect.
Octafish
Jun 2016
#196
War is mass murder, I've taken a verbal beating for saying that here over the years.
Rex
Jun 2016
#108
How DARE you!!! I had friends wounded last night, and friends who lost loved ones
ashtonelijah
Jun 2016
#137
SHAME ON YOU--YOU USE THIS HORRIBLE EVENT TO DISS THE PRESUMPTIVE DEMOCRATIC
riversedge
Jun 2016
#145
Not as wildly misleading as your post defending Bush, a warmonger like his father and grandfather.
Octafish
Jun 2016
#225
Who's lying, anigbrowl? You wrote Bush really meant something other than making money off war...
Octafish
Jun 2016
#227
Are you under the impression that Sanders is a pacifist who will pull back all US troops?
brooklynite
Jun 2016
#221