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52. She has not made an auspicious start
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 04:35 PM
Jun 2016

Following the massacre in Orlando, Trump tossed the bait out there. Obama and Clinton, he said in an attempt to provoke a reaction, are too "weak" to even utter the words "radical Islamic terrorism".

Obama wisely ignored the provocation. He of course failed to respond. Clinton however rose to take the bait. She wasn't "weak". Nosiree, not her! "Radical Islamic terrorism", she stated emphatically, was behind the mass murders at the gay bar, and by doing so she moved the debate onto Trump's turf.

In her eagerness to prove how "tough" she is, she blundered into losing the first round to the orange haired ass weasel.

I hope she learns. IMO, people would rather have a "smart" president than one who talks "tough". We had that with baby bush and I don't think anybody wants to go down that road again.

recommended n/t ruggerson Jun 2016 #1
Thank you. There's an election to win. MineralMan Jun 2016 #2
I'm not sure she would accept what I would recommend. HassleCat Jun 2016 #3
Perhaps you're right. However, in 2008, Barack Obama MineralMan Jun 2016 #7
She takes no salary from CGI so I am missing your point I guess. Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #9
Yes, I see your point. HassleCat Jun 2016 #12
Excellent points. athena Jun 2016 #13
Agreed and here is another suggestion Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #4
Well, that's always true. There are many elected offices. MineralMan Jun 2016 #8
"If those who supported Senator Sanders get behind her campaign,"... ljm2002 Jun 2016 #5
Yes, one might say that, too, but it is unrealistic. MineralMan Jun 2016 #10
The fact that listening to Bernie supporters is considered "unrealistic" by the establishment NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #14
^^ This ^^ Scuba Jun 2016 #22
Yes the process is binary... ljm2002 Jun 2016 #15
I refer you to something I wrote on April 24: Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #6
You are one person with one vote. MineralMan Jun 2016 #11
consider me dissatisfied. Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #16
How about this approach regards my own post-primary pivot? PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #17
I don't think HRC is interested in offering me or any other Sanders supporter anything. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #18
This is an ironic one. Just, she actually listens to the people. What so many criticize about her, seabeyond Jun 2016 #19
Naive post. She cares solely about what is good for her. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #20
Oh, so that's why she had her surrogates insult Sanders' supporters WolverineDG Jun 2016 #21
That's so cute, thinking that she would actually change based on what voters want. Adorable. Scuba Jun 2016 #23
Why should she be any different than other politicians? athena Jun 2016 #24
She won't be different (see below) and I never expect any pol to match my beliefs, exactly (canard). Scuba Jun 2016 #26
Naive as in: "Sanders can still win the nomination"? brooklynite Jun 2016 #25
Link please, as I don't recall ever posting such statements. Scuba Jun 2016 #27
But you were equally dismissive when you fellow Sanders supporters did? brooklynite Jun 2016 #29
So now you're claiming "phantom" approval? Get a life. Scuba Jun 2016 #30
She already knows what 'we' (I) think. She has known it for, what 26 years. pangaia Jun 2016 #28
The problem is that what she promises to get elected Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #31
Those are your assumptions about what she will do. MineralMan Jun 2016 #32
Past is prologue Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #33
She'll pivot right the second she thinks it's safe to do so. Arugula Latte Jun 2016 #34
Excellent OP. Thanks. oasis Jun 2016 #35
So if I show her support she'll campaign to end the War on Drugs, B Calm Jun 2016 #36
I can't speak for Hillary Clinton. MineralMan Jun 2016 #39
Lobby our delegates, nominee and office-holders unceasingly... Orsino Jun 2016 #37
Lobbying is a good idea. Here's what I have found: MineralMan Jun 2016 #40
people power HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #38
OK. But, I think the convention will be a peaceful one, MineralMan Jun 2016 #41
which holds more power in the end... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #42
Based on history, what happens on the convention floor MineralMan Jun 2016 #43
...influence... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #48
I've followed every convention since 1960. MineralMan Jun 2016 #49
...incorrect... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #50
I haven't previously seen an election season..... MaggieD Jun 2016 #44
Bernie's support included a lot of people who would MineralMan Jun 2016 #46
Don't I wish I could believe that. VulgarPoet Jun 2016 #45
You will do as you choose to do. MineralMan Jun 2016 #47
Sorry, but you have reversed the process in your mind,imo. sadoldgirl Jun 2016 #51
She has not made an auspicious start tularetom Jun 2016 #52
As I have been saying for a solid year AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #55
Good post Mineral Man! Excellent points. nt Mr Maru Jun 2016 #53
Loved her Palinesque "Word salad" answer when confronted by someone going broke with Obamacare AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #54
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