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2016 Postmortem

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Miles Archer

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Wed Jun 15, 2016, 09:07 AM Jun 2016

Sanders withholds "endorsement" until Clinton "takes steps to win his confidence" [View all]

WASHINGTON — With little affection or trust between them, Hillary Clinton and Senator Bernie Sanders met privately for nearly two hours on Tuesday night to size each other up as they started exploring what kind of alliance they might build for the general election battle against Donald J. Trump.

Yet Mr. Sanders chose to withhold his endorsement of Mrs. Clinton, several Sanders advisers said, because he wants her to take steps to win his confidence before the Democratic convention, where his supporters expect him to speak and Clinton advisers hope he will give her his full-throated backing.

Aides to Mrs. Clinton said she had never expected his endorsement Tuesday night. A statement from the Clinton campaign after the meeting described it as “a positive discussion about their primary campaign, about unifying the party and about the dangerous threat that Donald Trump poses to our nation.” They discussed issues like raising wages and reducing college costs, and “agreed to continue working on their shared agenda, including through the platform development process for the upcoming Democratic National Convention.”

The Sanders campaign released a nearly identical statement, though it emphasized that the two candidates also spoke about “how best to bring more people into the political process” — a reflection of the strong support for Mr. Sanders among young people and independents.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/15/us/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign.html?_r=0
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Hillary doesn't have to kiss his ass. Strong people will never do that. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #1
Bernie doesn't have to kiss her ass. Strong people will never do that. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #3
No, he doesn't. He can go back to the Senate without ever endorsing her leftofcool Jun 2016 #6
Agree, I think that's exactly what's going to happen Miles Archer Jun 2016 #9
It will ultimately be his loss. leftofcool Jun 2016 #15
Maybe, maybe not Miles Archer Jun 2016 #41
This is a concept you understand... Raster Jun 2016 #66
I think in short order it won't matter. Remember, Hortensis Jun 2016 #96
...!100++++ 840high Jun 2016 #159
In which case, he won't speak at the Convention... brooklynite Jun 2016 #19
I believe you are right. That was a mess. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #31
He can say goodbye to his Senate career if he does not endorse. kstewart33 Jun 2016 #67
Not true, he holds leverage. Dems need him if they want to take back Exilednight Jun 2016 #95
He used to hold leverage, he's destroying that day by day Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #114
he won't caucus with the Republicans, but if Dems freeze him out Exilednight Jun 2016 #116
We'll see won't we? Her numbers are rising steadily and will continue to Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #121
Hillary has some of the lowest favorability numbers... tex-wyo-dem Jun 2016 #157
A good shot at the house? That's ridiculous. Kentonio Jun 2016 #190
"... become a true independent." rock Jun 2016 #187
he holds more leverage than ever, and it is growing with each downticket progressive who larkrake Jun 2016 #166
you mean like Lucy Flores? Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #183
Doesn't work that way, KStewart. The Senate Hortensis Jun 2016 #101
I hope so. He sees her as part of the problem, so why endorse? Does not need to swhisper1 Jun 2016 #185
And he'll wind up caucusing by himself in a storage room somewhere at the Capitol..... George II Jun 2016 #35
I do not think for one moment that the establishment is going to embrace him in any way. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #48
Establishment Dems have made gestures in recognition and appreciation Haveadream Jun 2016 #125
Funny, I am told I MUST vote for HRC Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #44
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #56
If anyone tells you that you MUST vote for someone, tell them to go pound sand. Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #60
I have no intention of voting for Trump, Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #68
Well that would be a fascinating argument. emulatorloo Jun 2016 #85
Nobody's telling you anything. kstewart33 Jun 2016 #69
Nobody's gonna tell me who I must vote for, Sanders or Clinton. mr clean Jun 2016 #155
I know. Right? 840high Jun 2016 #160
sanders will never endorse Hillary leftofcool Jun 2016 #2
I don't believe her will endorse her, because... Miles Archer Jun 2016 #5
I don't either leftofcool Jun 2016 #7
Out of patience with what? Because he doesn't cater to the lobbyists like them? Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #103
she wont bend. It took her and Bill 30 years to turn the Party, she wont give diddlysquat larkrake Jun 2016 #168
I think you're the one 840high Jun 2016 #161
I believe he will endorse her as he's telegraphed that thru the entire primary. emulatorloo Jun 2016 #81
Depends on how we define "endorsement." Miles Archer Jun 2016 #83
I guess we'll have to wait and see how it actually plays out. emulatorloo Jun 2016 #84
Hillary doesn't need his endorsement. Now that the primaries are over, Sanders will become Trust Buster Jun 2016 #4
yep....sanders can only make himself look more and more foolish beachbum bob Jun 2016 #8
Sure. Standing up for your convictions always makes people look foolish. Dawgs Jun 2016 #16
Bingo. Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #32
That goes both ways. Why should the winner try to win the runner-up's confidence? brush Jun 2016 #82
But she's just a woman. Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #119
Not this shit again. 840high Jun 2016 #163
That is offensive and absurd. nt Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #175
I couln't agree more. nt Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #178
the vagina is not part of this election, stop offending us swhisper1 Jun 2016 #186
...!100++++ 840high Jun 2016 #162
his convictions at this point appear to be to splinter the Party and aide Trump Sheepshank Jun 2016 #79
I hope you're not serious. nt Dawgs Jun 2016 #88
Deadly serious Sheepshank Jun 2016 #94
My bad. I made the mistake of thinking you were informed. nt Dawgs Jun 2016 #100
He has voted with the Dems on everything. The most progressive member of Congress. panader0 Jun 2016 #158
+1 CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #92
ya just like Jimmy Carter did huh? azurnoir Jun 2016 #98
That's the new narrative from HRC supporters... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #10
Check your calendar. It is the 16th and I still don't think she needs his endorsement. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #11
Check you narrative and comments... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #12
There is absolutely nothing inappropriate w/regards to surmising that Hillary does not need Trust Buster Jun 2016 #13
but that's not the entirety of your post... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #21
Lots of threats being thrown out LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #14
perception.... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #18
I happen to agree LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #25
the posts relating to that perception will matter in terms of acceptable or not... that's the point HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #36
Nonsense. TOS is TOS. This thread is entitled "Sanders withholds endorsement". I responded that Trust Buster Jun 2016 #58
yeah sure... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #59
Today is Wednesday, the 15th. -none Jun 2016 #78
What strength is he negotiating from? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #150
Answer this honestly, then you might, maybe understand. -none Jun 2016 #154
She is the nominee! Either support her or don't. That is the new meme! leftofcool Jun 2016 #17
Then you're not paying attention to the posts here from HRC supporters... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #27
Exactly. Almost every post that is critical of Hillary is responded to with an attack on Bernie.. Dawgs Jun 2016 #38
Fortunately, GDpee is gone tomorrow and there will be no more attacks on Hillary leftofcool Jun 2016 #75
He is already less relevant. kstewart33 Jun 2016 #71
True. CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #93
Very strange treestar Jun 2016 #20
That was my thought as well. Evergreen Emerald Jun 2016 #24
As much as Sanders has upset me over the course of the primary, I don't find his attempts offensive Native Jun 2016 #46
Wow! What a rational and considerate response! Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #106
Tomorrow can't come soon enough! Native Jun 2016 #109
Whoops! Spoke too soon. Monday, Monday.... Native Jun 2016 #111
Yes, that's when the full on authoritarian censorship starts. pdsimdars Jun 2016 #134
Thank you. 840high Jun 2016 #165
New times... new possibilities... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #30
And remember, all passengers should keep thier arms and legs withing the vehicle. . . . . . pdsimdars Jun 2016 #135
nice! HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #140
Then I guess you think you can win without his supporters. Dawgs Jun 2016 #50
If people will not support Clinton until Sanders gives the signal Evergreen Emerald Jun 2016 #52
I think it's less of people waiting for a signal... Miles Archer Jun 2016 #63
No, those are the Hillary supporters who follow like lemmings. . . don't care about her positions pdsimdars Jun 2016 #136
Even if he gives 840high Jun 2016 #167
Just as Sanders has no right to "expect" anything from Clinton... Miles Archer Jun 2016 #55
TYT did a simple online poll, posted in 2 places. 20,000 people responded and 84% said they pdsimdars Jun 2016 #137
I do think that frazzled Jun 2016 #65
Yes, I do believe we can. The GOP is not going to drop Trump. leftofcool Jun 2016 #76
Well, I have already acknowledged that several times. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #51
Has he admitted he lost? Because it's getting embarrassing at this point. bettyellen Jun 2016 #22
Not as embarrassing as nominating the most unpopular candidate in all of our lifetimes. nt Dawgs Jun 2016 #70
Bernie is obviously not popular with Democrats or he would have won more votes. leftofcool Jun 2016 #77
Trump? Yes. But Hillary was more popular where it matters- the voting booth. bettyellen Jun 2016 #123
It's even more embarrassing to lose to someone that unpopular redstateblues Jun 2016 #129
One who is also under 840high Jun 2016 #169
Bernie can go piss up a rope.n/t Lil Missy Jun 2016 #23
And I'm sure he feels exactly the same way about Clinton. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #57
She can say she will take steps to win his confidence... KansDem Jun 2016 #26
as she always does . . . . pdsimdars Jun 2016 #138
she should not have to make concessions to the LOSER. niyad Jun 2016 #145
Aww he's so cute rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #28
This sounds like the most plausible scenario - and I do see Sanders endorsing her at the convention Native Jun 2016 #29
Why should Hillary appeal to a "male ego?" leftofcool Jun 2016 #34
A couple of weeks ago Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #47
I don't think she'd appeal to his ego as much as use it to get what she needs Native Jun 2016 #49
That would belittle the both of them. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #99
I respectfully disagree with you. Native Jun 2016 #108
You actually believe Bernie would want to work in Pastiche423 Jun 2016 #164
You actually believe Bernie would want to work in Pastiche423 Jun 2016 #170
It may be time to put Bernie on "ignore". DCBob Jun 2016 #33
His freshness date expired a month ago workinclasszero Jun 2016 #37
That will probably happen in a large way on DU tomorrow. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #61
Whatever, Bernie. nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #39
He has no leverage anymore. He's in the dustbin of history. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #40
A big who cares Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #42
Obviously the Hillary campaign doesn't agree with you considering who they hired from his campaign. Native Jun 2016 #53
Bernie is no pushover. JonathanRackham Jun 2016 #43
And why should she? Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #45
He intentionally set unrealistic expectations. RandySF Jun 2016 #54
Hillary just hit historic unfavorables of 55%. She got zero bump from the clinch Arazi Jun 2016 #62
I Guess You Missed This jamese777 Jun 2016 #120
someone hasn't been paying attention redstateblues Jun 2016 #130
Enough of this back and forth apcalc Jun 2016 #64
I don't think Clinton wanted his endorsement right a way. It needs to look like Clinton convinced Skwmom Jun 2016 #72
Who does Bernie expect to pick up the tab for his campaign debt? oasis Jun 2016 #73
I want two dollars! Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #115
Hopefully he's got a prepaid hotel room for the convention oasis Jun 2016 #117
Bernie Who? nt COLGATE4 Jun 2016 #74
Drop this asshat like a rock MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #80
I question his judgement at this point. nolabear Jun 2016 #86
I just don't understand how he... Miles Archer Jun 2016 #97
Well hell, you were far more articulate than he was. nolabear Jun 2016 #118
Imagine if Hillary had done this to Obama in 2008. StevieM Jun 2016 #87
It would have been consistent with how she ran her campaign SheenaR Jun 2016 #105
I think Hillary used Obama as a launching pad for this election. That's why she invoked his name floriduck Jun 2016 #107
she has to win his confidence?? ummm, bernie, YOU LOST. SHE WON. niyad Jun 2016 #89
True, but she is just a woman after all Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #122
I know, how very silly of me. niyad Jun 2016 #143
Have you seen all those reports about the detilals of the election fraud? Fascinating. pdsimdars Jun 2016 #139
uh huh niyad Jun 2016 #144
Yes, we've seen the conspiracy theories. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #152
Ummm, that's not the issue at all. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #180
actually, that is exactly what it is. so sorry, but your candidate lost, is in no position to make niyad Jun 2016 #188
I she wants the support of the left she is going to have to convince us to vote for her. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #90
She has yet to earn my vote either. I'm still waiting. n/t arcane1 Jun 2016 #91
.+1 840high Jun 2016 #171
He was never going to endorse anyone other than himself KingFlorez Jun 2016 #102
Like it or not, he has that right. They are diametrically opposed on significant issues. floriduck Jun 2016 #104
No endorsement was promised yet. Orsino Jun 2016 #110
Pretty sure that she wouldn't say anything of any import, libdem4life Jun 2016 #112
Bernie fights for what he believes, and for all of us. He's always been that way. Avalux Jun 2016 #113
+1,000,000 ... Trajan Jun 2016 #181
Of course you know Andy823 Jun 2016 #124
There's no bashing in the original post Miles Archer Jun 2016 #179
So many concessions requested. SirBrockington Jun 2016 #126
To the loser goes the spoils SirBrockington Jun 2016 #127
Endorsing her would be compromising his values. I hope he doesn't. CBGLuthier Jun 2016 #128
Values? He compromises them all the time. See ACA and the 90s crime bill. LuvLoogie Jun 2016 #132
Hey, stop with the bull shit. Ted Nugent. . . what is it with you hateful people? pdsimdars Jun 2016 #141
It's a metaphor. LuvLoogie Jun 2016 #142
Yea and if anyone had made a "metaphore" like that about Hillary. . . . pdsimdars Jun 2016 #151
Do you think Bernie will run for re-election? As a Democrat or Unaffiliated? LuvLoogie Jun 2016 #156
I think Bernie will get the Democratic nomination this time. Hillary is in for a world of hurt. pdsimdars Jun 2016 #192
Weird how differently people see things. Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #131
At least we don't have to hear him bellowing and see him wagging his finger redstateblues Jun 2016 #133
We'll still hear her cackling and barking. 840high Jun 2016 #172
can you imagine the screaming and hollering that would be going on from the bernie niyad Jun 2016 #146
NO. nt Snotcicles Jun 2016 #147
Don't do it Hillary! Don't give in to Sanders Ego! You will get the vast majority of his eastwestdem Jun 2016 #148
I hear you! Miles Archer Jun 2016 #176
hate to say "I told you so" but I said b4, will Bernie give us another Nader moment.. Bill USA Jun 2016 #149
War, tax cuts for the rich and banksterism isn't very attractive to a small d Democrat AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #153
...!100++++ 840high Jun 2016 #173
What an ass. Go away Bernie. nt TNProfessor Jun 2016 #174
Bernie is about to miss his chance GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #177
We are still counting votes felix_numinous Jun 2016 #182
Strange how quick he was to endorse centrist Obama back in 2008. Dawson Leery Jun 2016 #184
Oh my God. I think he actually thinks that she needs his endorsement!! Number23 Jun 2016 #189
That is just not how it works. You may not like Hillary, but she IS the presumptive nominee AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #191
I hope he just congratulates her on her win and that all. Autumn Jun 2016 #193
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