2016 Postmortem

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88. I hope you're not serious. nt

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Sanders withholds "endorsement" until Clinton "takes steps to win his confidence" [View all] Miles Archer Jun 2016 OP

Hillary doesn't have to kiss his ass. Strong people will never do that. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #1

Bernie doesn't have to kiss her ass. Strong people will never do that. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #3

No, he doesn't. He can go back to the Senate without ever endorsing her leftofcool Jun 2016 #6

Agree, I think that's exactly what's going to happen Miles Archer Jun 2016 #9

It will ultimately be his loss. leftofcool Jun 2016 #15

Maybe, maybe not Miles Archer Jun 2016 #41

This is a concept you understand... Raster Jun 2016 #66

I think in short order it won't matter. Remember, Hortensis Jun 2016 #96

...!100++++ 840high Jun 2016 #159

In which case, he won't speak at the Convention... brooklynite Jun 2016 #19

I believe you are right. That was a mess. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #31

He can say goodbye to his Senate career if he does not endorse. kstewart33 Jun 2016 #67

Not true, he holds leverage. Dems need him if they want to take back Exilednight Jun 2016 #95

He used to hold leverage, he's destroying that day by day Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #114

he won't caucus with the Republicans, but if Dems freeze him out Exilednight Jun 2016 #116

We'll see won't we? Her numbers are rising steadily and will continue to Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #121

Hillary has some of the lowest favorability numbers... tex-wyo-dem Jun 2016 #157

A good shot at the house? That's ridiculous. Kentonio Jun 2016 #190

"... become a true independent." rock Jun 2016 #187

he holds more leverage than ever, and it is growing with each downticket progressive who larkrake Jun 2016 #166

you mean like Lucy Flores? Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #183

Doesn't work that way, KStewart. The Senate Hortensis Jun 2016 #101

I hope so. He sees her as part of the problem, so why endorse? Does not need to swhisper1 Jun 2016 #185

And he'll wind up caucusing by himself in a storage room somewhere at the Capitol..... George II Jun 2016 #35

I do not think for one moment that the establishment is going to embrace him in any way. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #48

Establishment Dems have made gestures in recognition and appreciation Haveadream Jun 2016 #125

Funny, I am told I MUST vote for HRC Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #44

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #56

If anyone tells you that you MUST vote for someone, tell them to go pound sand. Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #60

I have no intention of voting for Trump, Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #68

Well that would be a fascinating argument. emulatorloo Jun 2016 #85

Nobody's telling you anything. kstewart33 Jun 2016 #69

Nobody's gonna tell me who I must vote for, Sanders or Clinton. mr clean Jun 2016 #155

I know. Right? 840high Jun 2016 #160

sanders will never endorse Hillary leftofcool Jun 2016 #2

I don't believe her will endorse her, because... Miles Archer Jun 2016 #5

I don't either leftofcool Jun 2016 #7

Out of patience with what? Because he doesn't cater to the lobbyists like them? Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #103

she wont bend. It took her and Bill 30 years to turn the Party, she wont give diddlysquat larkrake Jun 2016 #168

I think you're the one 840high Jun 2016 #161

I believe he will endorse her as he's telegraphed that thru the entire primary. emulatorloo Jun 2016 #81

Depends on how we define "endorsement." Miles Archer Jun 2016 #83

I guess we'll have to wait and see how it actually plays out. emulatorloo Jun 2016 #84

Hillary doesn't need his endorsement. Now that the primaries are over, Sanders will become Trust Buster Jun 2016 #4

yep....sanders can only make himself look more and more foolish beachbum bob Jun 2016 #8

Sure. Standing up for your convictions always makes people look foolish. Dawgs Jun 2016 #16

Bingo. Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #32

That goes both ways. Why should the winner try to win the runner-up's confidence? brush Jun 2016 #82

But she's just a woman. Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #119

Not this shit again. 840high Jun 2016 #163

That is offensive and absurd. nt Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #175

I couln't agree more. nt Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #178

the vagina is not part of this election, stop offending us swhisper1 Jun 2016 #186

...!100++++ 840high Jun 2016 #162

his convictions at this point appear to be to splinter the Party and aide Trump Sheepshank Jun 2016 #79

I hope you're not serious. nt Dawgs Jun 2016 #88

Deadly serious Sheepshank Jun 2016 #94

My bad. I made the mistake of thinking you were informed. nt Dawgs Jun 2016 #100

He has voted with the Dems on everything. The most progressive member of Congress. panader0 Jun 2016 #158

+1 CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #92

ya just like Jimmy Carter did huh? azurnoir Jun 2016 #98

That's the new narrative from HRC supporters... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #10

Check your calendar. It is the 16th and I still don't think she needs his endorsement. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #11

Check you narrative and comments... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #12

There is absolutely nothing inappropriate w/regards to surmising that Hillary does not need Trust Buster Jun 2016 #13

but that's not the entirety of your post... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #21

Lots of threats being thrown out LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #14

perception.... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #18

I happen to agree LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #25

the posts relating to that perception will matter in terms of acceptable or not... that's the point HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #36

Nonsense. TOS is TOS. This thread is entitled "Sanders withholds endorsement". I responded that Trust Buster Jun 2016 #58

yeah sure... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #59

Today is Wednesday, the 15th. -none Jun 2016 #78

What strength is he negotiating from? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #150

Answer this honestly, then you might, maybe understand. -none Jun 2016 #154

She is the nominee! Either support her or don't. That is the new meme! leftofcool Jun 2016 #17

Then you're not paying attention to the posts here from HRC supporters... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #27

Exactly. Almost every post that is critical of Hillary is responded to with an attack on Bernie.. Dawgs Jun 2016 #38

Fortunately, GDpee is gone tomorrow and there will be no more attacks on Hillary leftofcool Jun 2016 #75

He is already less relevant. kstewart33 Jun 2016 #71

True. CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #93

Very strange treestar Jun 2016 #20

That was my thought as well. Evergreen Emerald Jun 2016 #24

As much as Sanders has upset me over the course of the primary, I don't find his attempts offensive Native Jun 2016 #46

Wow! What a rational and considerate response! Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #106

Tomorrow can't come soon enough! Native Jun 2016 #109

Whoops! Spoke too soon. Monday, Monday.... Native Jun 2016 #111

Yes, that's when the full on authoritarian censorship starts. pdsimdars Jun 2016 #134

Thank you. 840high Jun 2016 #165

New times... new possibilities... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #30

And remember, all passengers should keep thier arms and legs withing the vehicle. . . . . . pdsimdars Jun 2016 #135

nice! HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #140

Then I guess you think you can win without his supporters. Dawgs Jun 2016 #50

If people will not support Clinton until Sanders gives the signal Evergreen Emerald Jun 2016 #52

I think it's less of people waiting for a signal... Miles Archer Jun 2016 #63

No, those are the Hillary supporters who follow like lemmings. . . don't care about her positions pdsimdars Jun 2016 #136

Even if he gives 840high Jun 2016 #167

Just as Sanders has no right to "expect" anything from Clinton... Miles Archer Jun 2016 #55

TYT did a simple online poll, posted in 2 places. 20,000 people responded and 84% said they pdsimdars Jun 2016 #137

I do think that frazzled Jun 2016 #65

Yes, I do believe we can. The GOP is not going to drop Trump. leftofcool Jun 2016 #76

Well, I have already acknowledged that several times. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #51

Has he admitted he lost? Because it's getting embarrassing at this point. bettyellen Jun 2016 #22

Not as embarrassing as nominating the most unpopular candidate in all of our lifetimes. nt Dawgs Jun 2016 #70

Bernie is obviously not popular with Democrats or he would have won more votes. leftofcool Jun 2016 #77

Trump? Yes. But Hillary was more popular where it matters- the voting booth. bettyellen Jun 2016 #123

It's even more embarrassing to lose to someone that unpopular redstateblues Jun 2016 #129

One who is also under 840high Jun 2016 #169

Bernie can go piss up a rope.n/t Lil Missy Jun 2016 #23

And I'm sure he feels exactly the same way about Clinton. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #57

She can say she will take steps to win his confidence... KansDem Jun 2016 #26

as she always does . . . . pdsimdars Jun 2016 #138

she should not have to make concessions to the LOSER. niyad Jun 2016 #145

Aww he's so cute rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #28

This sounds like the most plausible scenario - and I do see Sanders endorsing her at the convention Native Jun 2016 #29

Why should Hillary appeal to a "male ego?" leftofcool Jun 2016 #34

A couple of weeks ago Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #47

I don't think she'd appeal to his ego as much as use it to get what she needs Native Jun 2016 #49

That would belittle the both of them. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #99

I respectfully disagree with you. Native Jun 2016 #108

You actually believe Bernie would want to work in Pastiche423 Jun 2016 #164

You actually believe Bernie would want to work in Pastiche423 Jun 2016 #170

It may be time to put Bernie on "ignore". DCBob Jun 2016 #33

His freshness date expired a month ago workinclasszero Jun 2016 #37

That will probably happen in a large way on DU tomorrow. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #61

Whatever, Bernie. nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #39

He has no leverage anymore. He's in the dustbin of history. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #40

A big who cares Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #42

Obviously the Hillary campaign doesn't agree with you considering who they hired from his campaign. Native Jun 2016 #53

Bernie is no pushover. JonathanRackham Jun 2016 #43

And why should she? Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #45

He intentionally set unrealistic expectations. RandySF Jun 2016 #54

Hillary just hit historic unfavorables of 55%. She got zero bump from the clinch Arazi Jun 2016 #62

I Guess You Missed This jamese777 Jun 2016 #120

someone hasn't been paying attention redstateblues Jun 2016 #130

Enough of this back and forth apcalc Jun 2016 #64

I don't think Clinton wanted his endorsement right a way. It needs to look like Clinton convinced Skwmom Jun 2016 #72

Who does Bernie expect to pick up the tab for his campaign debt? oasis Jun 2016 #73

I want two dollars! Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #115

Hopefully he's got a prepaid hotel room for the convention oasis Jun 2016 #117

Bernie Who? nt COLGATE4 Jun 2016 #74

Drop this asshat like a rock MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #80

I question his judgement at this point. nolabear Jun 2016 #86

I just don't understand how he... Miles Archer Jun 2016 #97

Well hell, you were far more articulate than he was. nolabear Jun 2016 #118

Imagine if Hillary had done this to Obama in 2008. StevieM Jun 2016 #87

It would have been consistent with how she ran her campaign SheenaR Jun 2016 #105

I think Hillary used Obama as a launching pad for this election. That's why she invoked his name floriduck Jun 2016 #107

she has to win his confidence?? ummm, bernie, YOU LOST. SHE WON. niyad Jun 2016 #89

True, but she is just a woman after all Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #122

I know, how very silly of me. niyad Jun 2016 #143

Have you seen all those reports about the detilals of the election fraud? Fascinating. pdsimdars Jun 2016 #139

uh huh niyad Jun 2016 #144

Yes, we've seen the conspiracy theories. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #152

Ummm, that's not the issue at all. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #180

actually, that is exactly what it is. so sorry, but your candidate lost, is in no position to make niyad Jun 2016 #188

I she wants the support of the left she is going to have to convince us to vote for her. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #90

She has yet to earn my vote either. I'm still waiting. n/t arcane1 Jun 2016 #91

.+1 840high Jun 2016 #171

He was never going to endorse anyone other than himself KingFlorez Jun 2016 #102

Like it or not, he has that right. They are diametrically opposed on significant issues. floriduck Jun 2016 #104

No endorsement was promised yet. Orsino Jun 2016 #110

Pretty sure that she wouldn't say anything of any import, libdem4life Jun 2016 #112

Bernie fights for what he believes, and for all of us. He's always been that way. Avalux Jun 2016 #113

+1,000,000 ... Trajan Jun 2016 #181

Of course you know Andy823 Jun 2016 #124

There's no bashing in the original post Miles Archer Jun 2016 #179

So many concessions requested. SirBrockington Jun 2016 #126

To the loser goes the spoils SirBrockington Jun 2016 #127

Endorsing her would be compromising his values. I hope he doesn't. CBGLuthier Jun 2016 #128

Values? He compromises them all the time. See ACA and the 90s crime bill. LuvLoogie Jun 2016 #132

Hey, stop with the bull shit. Ted Nugent. . . what is it with you hateful people? pdsimdars Jun 2016 #141

It's a metaphor. LuvLoogie Jun 2016 #142

Yea and if anyone had made a "metaphore" like that about Hillary. . . . pdsimdars Jun 2016 #151

Do you think Bernie will run for re-election? As a Democrat or Unaffiliated? LuvLoogie Jun 2016 #156

I think Bernie will get the Democratic nomination this time. Hillary is in for a world of hurt. pdsimdars Jun 2016 #192

Weird how differently people see things. Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #131

At least we don't have to hear him bellowing and see him wagging his finger redstateblues Jun 2016 #133

We'll still hear her cackling and barking. 840high Jun 2016 #172

can you imagine the screaming and hollering that would be going on from the bernie niyad Jun 2016 #146

NO. nt Snotcicles Jun 2016 #147

Don't do it Hillary! Don't give in to Sanders Ego! You will get the vast majority of his eastwestdem Jun 2016 #148

I hear you! Miles Archer Jun 2016 #176

hate to say "I told you so" but I said b4, will Bernie give us another Nader moment.. Bill USA Jun 2016 #149

War, tax cuts for the rich and banksterism isn't very attractive to a small d Democrat AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #153

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What an ass. Go away Bernie. nt TNProfessor Jun 2016 #174

Bernie is about to miss his chance GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #177

We are still counting votes felix_numinous Jun 2016 #182

Strange how quick he was to endorse centrist Obama back in 2008. Dawson Leery Jun 2016 #184

Oh my God. I think he actually thinks that she needs his endorsement!! Number23 Jun 2016 #189

That is just not how it works. You may not like Hillary, but she IS the presumptive nominee AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #191

I hope he just congratulates her on her win and that all. Autumn Jun 2016 #193