Thanks for the back story. (Reply #146)

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Fri Jun 17, 2016, 01:46 PM

Octafish (55,745 posts)

146. Thanks for the back story.

I remember him for "Segregation now! Segregation tomorrow! Segregation forever!" statements from his inaugural of Jan. 14, 1963.

Didn't know he had turned into such a liberal, especially considering the lengths to which Nixon's White House, in which Poppy Bush was a player, went to exploit his near-assassination.

"Reluctantly, I began to pack a bag, adding to it the shaving kit that held my CIA-issue physical disguise and documents....I called several airlines and found that the only available flight would put me in Milwaukee about 11 o’clock that night." -- E. Howard Hunt

E. Howard Hunt, Undercover (New York: Berkley Publishing Corporation, 1974), p. 217 via "Bremer & Wallace: It’s Déjà Vu All Over Again" by Lisa Pease.

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How to explain this: Hillary Clinton praised a former president [View all]	blackspade	Jun 2016	OP
moderates, centrists and independents eat that shit up.	geek tragedy	Jun 2016	#1
Regardless of his flaws and they were many Bush never demonized Muslims or Hispanics.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jun 2016	#6
Oh my unicorn he is practically a saint then isn't he! Well I was wrong!	Silver_Witch	Jun 2016	#9
Compared to Trump Bush was a saint.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jun 2016	#15
Ask Mrs. King.	Octafish	Jun 2016	#22
Thank you for your input.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jun 2016	#25
You are most welcome!	Octafish	Jun 2016	#37
Thank you for sharing those photographs with me. I never saw them before.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jun 2016	#46
you do realize the only reason Wallace was in that photo	dsc	Jun 2016	#138
Thanks for the back story.	Octafish	Jun 2016	#146
again it isn't the choice I would have made	dsc	Jun 2016	#150
At one time George Wallace was quite progressive and was endoresed by the NAACP	BlueStateLib	Jun 2016	#217
Speaks volumes to me, and many of the troops, Sir.	bobthedrummer	Jun 2016	#187
bush never dissed.........	heaven05	Jun 2016	#210
Ohhh dear excuse me for critizing your man!!!	Silver_Witch	Jun 2016	#44
Thank you for misrepresenting my position and sneaking in an ad hominem attack as well	DemocratSinceBirth	Jun 2016	#50
As you did mine! You have a very nice weekend as well!	Silver_Witch	Jun 2016	#60
I don't believe I misrepresented your position as my commitment to veracity is my sine qua non.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jun 2016	#64
You are kinda cute! You know that though eh!	Silver_Witch	Jun 2016	#71
I live in the SFV. It's going to be > 105 degrees !!!	DemocratSinceBirth	Jun 2016	#74
5000 dead US soldiers and 100, 000 dead innocent Iraqis based on a lie?	Chasstev365	Jun 2016	#59
You must have left out your sarcasm thingy.	jonestonesusa	Jun 2016	#112
And Dubya never praised Mussolini nor Hitler! Obama should give him a Medal of Freedom award!	imagine2015	Jun 2016	#153
George W Bush met Hillary Clinton at Nancy Reagan’s funeral	BlueStateLib	Jun 2016	#218
W didnt disparage, he just stole from them, used them and lied to them	swhisper1	Jun 2016	#231
Lol	Dem2	Jun 2016	#19
I would venture to say it is you that is dangerous to our country!	Silver_Witch	Jun 2016	#56
Now you're just spamming fallacies	Dem2	Jun 2016	#68
Have a lovely day!	Silver_Witch	Jun 2016	#85
this is the kind of black and white thinking that cause something like the OP	treestar	Jun 2016	#211
candidate Bush in 2000 was WAY more moderate and acceptable than any of the Republican	geek tragedy	Jun 2016	#10
GWB never "demonized" Muslims sure; GWB just lied the USA into war and blew up Muslims with	PufPuf23	Jun 2016	#80
Thank you for your input.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jun 2016	#81
Your threats are childish.	blackspade	Jun 2016	#95
I didn't threaten anybody in this thread.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jun 2016	#101
Your silly continual references to Monday's changeover....	blackspade	Jun 2016	#119
Exactly. I wondered by this person kept saying this over and over...	Silver_Witch	Jun 2016	#123
That wasn't my intention.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jun 2016	#134
Party unity is a dirty word to some...	blackspade	Jun 2016	#141
What an odd inference.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jun 2016	#125
Oh yes, how odd.	blackspade	Jun 2016	#139
I take that as you have no intention to apologize for disrespecting, dehumaninizing....	DemocratSinceBirth	Jun 2016	#142
Disrespect, dehumanize, and delegitimize?	blackspade	Jun 2016	#172
There is no need to disrespect , deligitimize, and dehumanize me	DemocratSinceBirth	Jun 2016	#179
Lather, rinse, repeat....	blackspade	Jun 2016	#181
No projection, sir or madame.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jun 2016	#182
Post removed	Post removed	Jun 2016	#136
I refuse to respond to your attempt to denigrate, disrespect, and dehumazine me in kind.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jun 2016	#143
Candor compels to opine that you must have slept through Shock and Awe	Autumn	Jun 2016	#191
There is no need for us to address our fellow members in such a hurtful fashion.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jun 2016	#196
Just don't bother to PM me. I blocked messages from you after the last one.	Autumn	Jun 2016	#198
Thank you for getting another shot in and insulting me again. I refuse to respond in kind.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jun 2016	#199
.	Autumn	Jun 2016	#200
Thank you... I hope to be your model.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jun 2016	#204
You are the perfect role model and the quintessential DUer.	Autumn	Jun 2016	#206
Thank you. I think.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jun 2016	#207
Good grief.	Cary	Jun 2016	#219
You bet your fucking ass I'm bitter, I lost a Nephew in that clusterfuck so put your	Autumn	Jun 2016	#221
Enjou	Cary	Jun 2016	#222
Whoa.	Hissyspit	Jul 2016	#240
Whatever.	Cary	Jul 2016	#241
Somehow that didn't stop you from supporting Clinton in 2008	BainsBane	Jun 2016	#232
That's not the reason I won't support her. nt	Autumn	Jun 2016	#236
Presidents and First Ladies are the only ones who knows the crap they go through	yeoman6987	Jun 2016	#94
Hey nice Bernie attack there. Sneaky too!	Silver_Witch	Jun 2016	#66
this is the primary forum, correct?	geek tragedy	Jun 2016	#70
You do know Hillary won the primary don't you?	Silver_Witch	Jun 2016	#82
I know it, but the junior Senator from Vermont refuses to admit it nt	geek tragedy	Jun 2016	#87
And you care because WHY?	Silver_Witch	Jun 2016	#234
Until he suspends his campaign he is in the picture. By his choice. n/t	pnwmom	Jun 2016	#220
I guess Bush wasn't that bad. I still think he's a war criminal tho	NWCorona	Jun 2016	#2
This message was self-deleted by its author	Fresh_Start	Jun 2016	#4
I know and I actually thought that note was a nice gesture to Bill	NWCorona	Jun 2016	#7
Mike Malloy...	ReRe	Jun 2016	#34
Nope.	blackspade	Jun 2016	#20
Exactly	Ned_Devine	Jun 2016	#98
....	Else You Are Mad	Jun 2016	#107
Yes that was an attempt at sarcasm on my part.	NWCorona	Jun 2016	#129
Why would anyone support GWB? Blows my mind. n/t	Paper Roses	Jun 2016	#3
She has admitted she's after the Republican vote.....	KoKo	Jun 2016	#8
For every Republican vote she gains...	ReRe	Jun 2016	#77
A Dem base she doesn't care about any way	Ned_Devine	Jun 2016	#100
Well...	ReRe	Jun 2016	#111
It's vulgar	Ned_Devine	Jun 2016	#147
Is this what it means to be a "pragmatic progressive"?	demwing	Jun 2016	#189
Bernie also said he hoped	one_voice	Jun 2016	#135
The difference is that Bernie never pandered to them	arikara	Jun 2016	#209
Support? That's not how I read this.	Sheepshank	Jun 2016	#35
In politics, sometimes people have to be diplomatic	shenmue	Jun 2016	#215
George HW Bush used the phrase voodoo economics against Reagan in their primary	tonyt53	Jun 2016	#5
Moneynfor his banker friends to rebuild!	Silver_Witch	Jun 2016	#13
And he got a vote for his war from that money.	Goblinmonger	Jun 2016	#43
Indeed I suppose it does!	Silver_Witch	Jun 2016	#88
As a New York Senator, she asked for things from him and got them.	leftofcool	Jun 2016	#11
At Nancy's funeral Hillary spoke a litany of lies in service to Reagan at the expense of the truth	Bluenorthwest	Jun 2016	#12
It's good politics, appealing to centrists and Republicans uncomforatble with Trump.	YouDig	Jun 2016	#14
Expanding the wrong way; to the right.	blackspade	Jun 2016	#23
Every vote counts the same. If there are centrist votes available, and with Trump, there are,	YouDig	Jun 2016	#26
Centrists don't like the Bushes....	blackspade	Jun 2016	#48
Some centrists do. And I can't think of too many Democrats that would vote against her	YouDig	Jun 2016	#51
Recall GWB's gaff in calling his war making a "crusade"? eom	PufPuf23	Jun 2016	#90
yes I do	heaven05	Jun 2016	#239
Nope...Sanders himself (and many DUers agreed) he was wooing the "R" vote.	Sheepshank	Jun 2016	#63
You mean she behaved like a grown up person	La Lioness Priyanka	Jun 2016	#16
Praising a war criminal?	blackspade	Jun 2016	#24
As long as he remains unconvicted by any courts	La Lioness Priyanka	Jun 2016	#27
By that loose definition any member of Congress who votes for defense spending is a war criminal.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jun 2016	#33
So he gets a pass from you.	blackspade	Jun 2016	#38
Lol. Such drama.	La Lioness Priyanka	Jun 2016	#53
Oh yes, death and destruction is "drama"	blackspade	Jun 2016	#62
I'm sure her reaction would be the same if Bernie praised W. I'm sure of it	Ned_Devine	Jun 2016	#102
You mean how we're told that Bernie supporters are mostly angry, white,	appalachiablue	Jun 2016	#148
It's been constant forever. This past year has been like a frustrating nightmare that won't end	Ned_Devine	Jun 2016	#149
Nightmare is it. What twisted, contradictory and absurd claims offensive to many groups.	appalachiablue	Jun 2016	#152
She praises the opposition when it is not apporpriate nor even accurate:	Bluenorthwest	Jun 2016	#29
She said that at a funeral and apologized for being wrong	La Lioness Priyanka	Jun 2016	#30
No, she said that after the funeral, to the press without being asked about it.	Bluenorthwest	Jun 2016	#39
Why are you lying about me? I've criticized Ronald Reagan a million times on du	La Lioness Priyanka	Jun 2016	#52
You mock me for caring about the history. "No matter how obsessed you are with this" you snark	Bluenorthwest	Jun 2016	#75
I mock you for using a misstatement for an irrational hatred	La Lioness Priyanka	Jun 2016	#78
You mock me for caring about the truth and seeking to bring that truth to the table.	Bluenorthwest	Jun 2016	#104
Ahhh was she tired and overworked. Poor Hillary!	Silver_Witch	Jun 2016	#108
March, 2016. Hillary Clinton with MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell	appalachiablue	Jun 2016	#131
I totally agree! nt	LAS14	Jun 2016	#159
She likes war criminals - Kissinger, Netanyahu etc so her affection for the Bush crime family	Arazi	Jun 2016	#213
Legitimizing a corrupt and criminal regime that gave us torture, unjustified wars	tabasco	Jun 2016	#17
George W Bush who ignored NSA, CIA, FBI warnings about Osama bin Laden?	Octafish	Jun 2016	#18
This means he couldn't have helped out New York after 9/11??? nt	LAS14	Jun 2016	#161
Hadn't thought of it that way. Thought he was criminally negligent, at best.	Octafish	Jun 2016	#171
Yeah...you missed the part where they won't endorse her...of course you did.	Demsrule86	Jun 2016	#21
Didn't miss it.	blackspade	Jun 2016	#32
I know it's hard for those on the far, far end of the political spectrum to understand, but...	Tarc	Jun 2016	#28
Cordial terms do not require false or undue praise nor the revision of important history to serve	Bluenorthwest	Jun 2016	#31
Why do you always manage not to include that she apologized	La Lioness Priyanka	Jun 2016	#36
Why is an apology all it takes to make that go away?	Goblinmonger	Jun 2016	#49
Because the Clinton's have a long history of HIV AIDS activism	La Lioness Priyanka	Jun 2016	#76
Saying that a person who shit on HIV problems was a champion for it	Goblinmonger	Jun 2016	#86
Bob Hattoy at the 1992 Democratic Convention, spoken in Hillary's presence:	Bluenorthwest	Jun 2016	#93
I think that is the truth!	Silver_Witch	Jun 2016	#120
Oh, she bashed then said 'sorry'? That means it can't be discussed? She said what she said on TV	Bluenorthwest	Jun 2016	#61
She didn't bash anyone. Your hatred is making you blind	La Lioness Priyanka	Jun 2016	#73
Sorry but when you take away the good works of an oppressed group and credit those actions	Bluenorthwest	Jun 2016	#84
She apologized only because she saw the polls dropping!!!	Silver_Witch	Jun 2016	#114
+2 The cold, calculating truth.	appalachiablue	Jun 2016	#133
I believe that Clinton long apologized for the AIDS and Reagan comments	Tarc	Jun 2016	#65
I buried the love of my life back then, also half my friends and mentors.	Bluenorthwest	Jun 2016	#79
You get out what you put in, as the saying goes	Tarc	Jun 2016	#91
I'll just let readers read what you have just said and what I said.	Bluenorthwest	Jun 2016	#105
The readers will see you dredging up some thing Hillary said that she already apologized for	Tarc	Jun 2016	#116
"Love and Kindness"	QC	Jun 2016	#128
I am so sorry Blue.	Silver_Witch	Jun 2016	#126
This^^^	Silver_Witch	Jun 2016	#110
Some are not sophisticated and well read enough to understand that historical context.	Trust Buster	Jun 2016	#45
So that's what we're doing now?	Goblinmonger	Jun 2016	#55
To the extent that you wish to demonize everything about those Republicans that have served this	Trust Buster	Jun 2016	#97
Disingenuous bullshit.	blackspade	Jun 2016	#115
Being a Democratic website does not mean that one must hate every aspect of Republicans.	Trust Buster	Jun 2016	#122
Snort.	blackspade	Jun 2016	#137
There isn't a fucking "tea party left"	blackspade	Jun 2016	#57
No freeper ever hated liberals more than	QC	Jun 2016	#69
No kidding.	blackspade	Jun 2016	#96
"Hating" is going crazy over Hillary complimenting past presidents. Projection.	Trust Buster	Jun 2016	#103
No, hating is his kind of stuff.	QC	Jun 2016	#113
Nope, hating is being so sanctimonious as believing everything is black and white and good and evil	Trust Buster	Jun 2016	#118
I find the Cavers at DI to be more open minded and friendly.	Autumn	Jun 2016	#214
Post #97 applies to your post as well.	Trust Buster	Jun 2016	#99
Chah! What do you think this is? The Democratic Underground?	lumberjack_jeff	Jun 2016	#162
Because the best way to win a general election is call the other party names.	BootinUp	Jun 2016	#40
Somebody just above you referred to progressives	Goblinmonger	Jun 2016	#67
I used the term "Tea Party Left" as it applies to totally demonizing the service of past presidents	Trust Buster	Jun 2016	#106
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Jun 2016	#225
Re-read the OP and maybe you will understand the subject matter better.	Trust Buster	Jun 2016	#226
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Jun 2016	#227
Hillary said none of that in the OP. Go re-read the OP so you have a better understanding of the	Trust Buster	Jun 2016	#229
Because she's not the "burn the whole house down and demonize everyone" person that a	Trust Buster	Jun 2016	#41
Obama pinned a medal on Poppy	Octafish	Jun 2016	#42
Because hating on an old man that served his country in WWII, the CIA, the vice presidency and	Trust Buster	Jun 2016	#47
HW Bush was a murderer and a coward	WDIM	Jun 2016	#83
Your over the top and sanctimonious attitude does not impress me at all.	Trust Buster	Jun 2016	#109
If reality is over the top and sanctimonious for you	WDIM	Jun 2016	#121
Get a grip. Re-read the OP. It criticized Hillary for saying that H.W. asked her opinions and	Trust Buster	Jun 2016	#124
Terrorists for Bush	Octafish	Jun 2016	#132
Not hate, telling the truth.	Octafish	Jun 2016	#130
Revolting	Doctor_J	Jun 2016	#54
Democrats have been taken over	WDIM	Jun 2016	#127
This message was self-deleted by its author	rjsquirrel	Jun 2016	#58
That was the straw that broke the camel's back.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jun 2016	#72
So we, as liberals, are expected to believe ...	surrealAmerican	Jun 2016	#89
Eliz. Warren explained it a few years back.	QC	Jun 2016	#92
Warren certainly received the treatment from Summers about the Club.	appalachiablue	Jun 2016	#144
She certainly did, and then she compounded her grievous sin	QC	Jun 2016	#145
Roll out those tortured rationales, oh brave cognitive dissonants.	RufusTFirefly	Jun 2016	#117
I have no problem with her saying truthful nice things about Bush	dsc	Jun 2016	#140
Hitler created the autobahn and the VW bug	Buzz cook	Jun 2016	#151
Really?	blackspade	Jun 2016	#155
We were headed toward Godwin's rule	Buzz cook	Jun 2016	#160
Maybe you should run for president on those observations. n/t	lumberjack_jeff	Jun 2016	#163
Gotta remember this excellent comeback. Unfortunately...	LAS14	Jun 2016	#174
How to explain that? It's pretty easy ...	1StrongBlackMan	Jun 2016	#154
That's a lousy explanation.	blackspade	Jun 2016	#156
Okay ... But that IS how the real world works.	1StrongBlackMan	Jun 2016	#164
Especially when criminals are given a pass.	blackspade	Jun 2016	#167
Why should we have to explain it? Do we want...	LAS14	Jun 2016	#157
Sorry, not giving the Bush criminals a pass.	blackspade	Jun 2016	#166
So acknowledging a good thing about someone is giving...	LAS14	Jun 2016	#173
That poster is way out there.	Trust Buster	Jun 2016	#175
Way out where?	blackspade	Jun 2016	#183
It's a big club, and although you're not in it, we insist you vote for it.	lumberjack_jeff	Jun 2016	#158
How is acknowledging what is probably simply true "pivoting to the right???" nt	LAS14	Jun 2016	#165
Some think that politicians should be kicking each other in the balls or ovaries.	grossproffit	Jun 2016	#168
Some balls and ovaries deserve to be kicked. n/t	lumberjack_jeff	Jun 2016	#169
If your goal is going to jail for assault and battery.	grossproffit	Jun 2016	#170
A lot if hatred in this thread over nothing.	Trust Buster	Jun 2016	#176
And a lot of casuistry, sophistry, obscurantism as well...	DemocratSinceBirth	Jun 2016	#180
That is disturbing	DemocratSinceBirth	Jun 2016	#184
I find the language and imagery disturbing.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jun 2016	#185
A lot of the comments defending her statements are unbelievable to me.	Juicy_Bellows	Jun 2016	#177
Ain't that some shit?	d_legendary1	Jun 2016	#178
It's the new way.	EndElectoral	Jun 2016	#193
It is very simple to explain.	potone	Jun 2016	#186
Beings the current Prez	Go Vols	Jun 2016	#188
OMG, is Team Hill openly embracing the Bushes now?	Hydra	Jun 2016	#190
If "praising" means speaking the truth. As NY Senator she relied on Bush to get the funding needed	glennward	Jun 2016	#194
It was dishonest of her to lie for the Bushes to get them a blank check for the Iraq war	Hydra	Jun 2016	#197
Huh? Lie for the Bushes? When, where? You mean voting for the war like so many other	glennward	Jun 2016	#216
Lol	Hydra	Jun 2016	#223
Oh my gawd! She's a grown up that behaves professionally!	Lil Missy	Jun 2016	#192
I've noticed how many Republicans have praised Obama.	EndElectoral	Jun 2016	#195
DU liberals justifying this...	Buddyblazon	Jun 2016	#201
Sickening, ain't it?	pokerfan	Jun 2016	#212
Obviously they're not liberals.	HooptieWagon	Jun 2016	#230
Have you ever watched the House or Senate in action on C-Span?	George II	Jun 2016	#202
I imagine she's trying to get votes from Republicans who can't stand Trump	gollygee	Jun 2016	#203
The optics is all true and has been for 50 years.	gordianot	Jun 2016	#205
The vitriol being spewed in this post primary season is what happens	redstateblues	Jun 2016	#208
That red arrow	felix_numinous	Jun 2016	#224
He was committed to getting New York money to rebuild -- as praise goes, that's hardly even praise	fishwax	Jun 2016	#228
and that's supposed to convince people	BainsBane	Jun 2016	#233
Sure, cut the crap.	blackspade	Jun 2016	#237
A presidential candidate doesn't get to do scorched-earth...	Orsino	Jun 2016	#235
One word. Carter.	blackspade	Jun 2016	#238

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