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senz

(11,945 posts)
42. Interesting, Octafish.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 02:41 PM
Jun 2016

The breadth of your knowledge and interests is slightly mind boggling. I'm seriously glad we progressives and Bernie supporters have someone like you on our side.

My take on westerns is different from yours. I grew up at a time when cowboys were hero figures for kids, representations of inner strength, nobility and freedom as well as attunement to the rugged natural environment of the southwest which I periodically experienced in summertime. All my siblings were boys, which may have helped me internalize the cowboy ethos both as male qualities to admire (plus, they're pretty hot) and personal qualities to aspire to. So, westerns feel natural to me. However, I've never been interested in actors and other celebrities, so the name "Randolph Scott" is simply a name I've heard. In my teens I began to comprehend stylistic differences between writers and then, thanks to a boyfriend who avidly read every copy of Cahiers du Cinéma and took me to scores of movies, I began to understand film as art and directors as auteurs. And then, again due to his enthusiasms, I finally conceptualized westerns as a serious genre. My knowledge is not extensive and deep, nor organized, and I can't even remember all the westerns I've seen and enjoyed. Directors that pop up are John Ford, Sergio Leone, Howard Hawks, Clint Eastwood, Sam Peckinpah. Some films that come to mind are The Searchers, Shane, Stagecoach, The Ox-bow Incident, McCabe and Mrs. Miller, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, High Plains Drifter, Rio Bravo, Unforgiven, Ride the High Country, and of course, The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. At the present moment, I'm remembering Leone and Eastwood films, as well as Altman's very special McCabe and Mrs. Miller, as aesthetically and/or emotionally resonant, and Shane is pretty well internalized for me as classic good vs. evil (hmm, maybe some similarities to the situation here at DU). I wish all this were better organized in my mind; maybe when this harrowing election is over, it will be a nice project to escape into.

I wonder if your perspective as a SF writer gives you a more global understanding of the current state of the country and the world? I've only come to what little I know through flashes of comprehension beginning in the 1990s and probably not complete. I have a bad habit of averting my eyes and mind from evil (for some of us, growing up takes decades.)

Sorry it took so long to answer your question. I shift gears rather slowly.

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Four Points make me FOR Bernie [View all] Octafish Jun 2016 OP
I'm sure Bernie Sanders will be able to bring these issues up when he's back in the Senate. brooklynite Jun 2016 #1
I hope Hillary does if she's the nominee. Octafish Jun 2016 #4
Hillary agrees with all those. YouDig Jun 2016 #2
Not when it comes to NSA domestic spying. Octafish Jun 2016 #5
That article has nothing to do with your OP. YouDig Jun 2016 #6
Here's help. Octafish Jun 2016 #9
That article still has nothing to do with your OP. What does the NSA have to do with YouDig Jun 2016 #10
Yes it does, esp. considering how much NSA work is done by private contractors. Octafish Jun 2016 #13
Octafish... brentspeak Jun 2016 #29
Truer words were never spoken (about the entity and praising Octafish's efforts)! nt 2cannan Jun 2016 #32
Swoon.. Ah, Octafish! Melissa G Jun 2016 #36
Here's detail on how NSA spying helps the well-to-do. Octafish Jun 2016 #11
I'm about conspiracy theoried out. YouDig Jun 2016 #12
Profound for you. Octafish Jun 2016 #14
You've only been here for about 60 days, I dig that. bobthedrummer Jun 2016 #15
Stratfor via WikiLeaks saw problems from the beginning for Clinton Foundation... Octafish Jun 2016 #18
I like your taste in westerns, Octafish. senz Jun 2016 #27
Thanks, senz! Sergio Leone and Jethro Tull all day long. Octafish Jun 2016 #33
Interesting, Octafish. senz Jun 2016 #42
Uh-huh. The USA is a Reaganomic Republic. immoderate Jun 2016 #3
Trickle Down Voodoo has WASTED 7/8 of all the wealth in history on the rich. Octafish Jun 2016 #7
The rat exercising the trap laserhaas Jun 2016 #25
K&R bobthedrummer Jun 2016 #8
The Good Shepherd Octafish Jun 2016 #16
Why doesn't that important OP have a "permalink?" I thought all comments did. senz Jun 2016 #30
Interesting article. Xyzse Jun 2016 #17
Glen Ford is a real journalist. Octafish Jun 2016 #19
I don't want to hear his voice unless it says...I concede. nt. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #22
Your attitude explains your level of awareness. Octafish Jun 2016 #31
It is customary for the loser of any election or primary to concede. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #37
I'm for my nextdoor neighbor, Stan...but he's not on the general election ballot either. nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #20
Is Stan a Democrat? Here's some of what one Democrat managed to do in only 1,037 days in office. Octafish Jun 2016 #23
Have you ever heard about a little altercation called the bay of pigs? Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #38
JFK stood up to the warmongers. Every time. Octafish Jun 2016 #39
for who? Oh yeah Bernie ...well he lost. So who cares? Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #21
Who's the real loser, Demsrule86? Octafish Jun 2016 #24
The corporate Red states laserhaas Jun 2016 #26
Agents for Bush Octafish Jun 2016 #34
WOW...I've read 'Crossing the Rubicon' 4 times laserhaas Jun 2016 #35
Concise and well put felix_numinous Jun 2016 #28
That's an excellent list, I couldn't agree more. Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #40
Not long ago = still does today. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #41
A Dr. Strangelove for the 21st Century (Steve Breyman May 9, 2014) kick bobthedrummer Jun 2016 #43
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