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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: If Hillary Clinton starts courting republicans, [View all]pokerfan
(27,677 posts)161. "It's a big club and we ain't in it!"
George Carlin in 2005:
Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You dont. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own, and control the corporations. Theyve long since bought, and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want . . .
Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but Ill tell you what they dont want, they dont want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They dont want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. Theyre not interested in that, that doesnt help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They dont want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table and think about how badly theyre getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fuckin' years ago. They dont want that.
You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork. And just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now theyre coming for your Social Security money. They want your fuckin' retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street and you know something? Theyll get it . . . theyll get it all from you sooner or later cause they own this fuckin' place.
Its a big club and you ain't in it. You and I are not in The big club. By the way, its the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table has tilted folks. The game is rigged and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people . . . white collar, blue collar it doesnt matter what color shirt you have on. Good honest hard-working people continue, these are people of modest means . . . continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who dont give a fuck about you. They dont give a fuck about you . . . they dont give a fuck about you. They dont care about you at all . . . at all . . . at all, and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Thats what the owners count on. The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick thats being jammed up their assholes everyday, because the owners of this country know the truth. Its called the American Dream cause you have to be asleep to believe it . . .
Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but Ill tell you what they dont want, they dont want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They dont want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. Theyre not interested in that, that doesnt help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They dont want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table and think about how badly theyre getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fuckin' years ago. They dont want that.
You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork. And just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now theyre coming for your Social Security money. They want your fuckin' retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street and you know something? Theyll get it . . . theyll get it all from you sooner or later cause they own this fuckin' place.
Its a big club and you ain't in it. You and I are not in The big club. By the way, its the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table has tilted folks. The game is rigged and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people . . . white collar, blue collar it doesnt matter what color shirt you have on. Good honest hard-working people continue, these are people of modest means . . . continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who dont give a fuck about you. They dont give a fuck about you . . . they dont give a fuck about you. They dont care about you at all . . . at all . . . at all, and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Thats what the owners count on. The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick thats being jammed up their assholes everyday, because the owners of this country know the truth. Its called the American Dream cause you have to be asleep to believe it . . .


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Trust me, at the end of her campaign you still won't really know where she stands on anything. -nt-
NorthCarolina
Jun 2016
#104
I wasn't born yesterday. I've been a registered Democrat since 1976. I know all I need to know
NorthCarolina
Jun 2016
#168
The First Amendment has NOTHING to do with this place, do you understand the First Amendment?
SFnomad
Jun 2016
#8
Clearly you don't know what your 1A rights are ... you might want to look it up or have someone
SFnomad
Jun 2016
#15
If this website censors what you can say, your 1A "Freedom of Speech" rights have NOT been violated
SFnomad
Jun 2016
#29
I never said it did. Enjoy your censorship. I will be using my First Amendment rights elsewhere. n
Live and Learn
Jun 2016
#47
Yes you did post #5 .... "LOL Let the lock step begin. To hell with the First Amendment."
SFnomad
Jun 2016
#50
And in reality as well ... you should really quit before you embarrass yourself any more n/t
SFnomad
Jun 2016
#60
Pretty obvious your unable to feel it. Reality apparently differs for us. nt
Live and Learn
Jun 2016
#68
Ok, enough with you ... let me know when you understand your 1A rights ... buh bye n/t
SFnomad
Jun 2016
#73
Ohhh, I'm going to miss you so. Don't forget to come up for another breather sometime. nt
Live and Learn
Jun 2016
#76
DU is privately owned and operated. Do you think the Admins (ie the owners) are RW authoritarians?
Hekate
Jun 2016
#137
Ridiculous. You are the one that doesn't understand. Someday you may. nt
Live and Learn
Jun 2016
#51
Still censorship. I never said it violated MY first Amendment rights, now did I?
Live and Learn
Jun 2016
#169
So, it's fine by you that she plays with republicans instead of progressives ...
earthshine
Jun 2016
#185
GOP women will stand in the voting booths and contemplate the orange misogynist....
Hekate
Jun 2016
#134
The Third Way began recruiting them long ago with the DLC and the Clintons as founders.
Live and Learn
Jun 2016
#10
Not by praising George W Bush. Bernie courted them based on the same issues he was promoting to
think
Jun 2016
#11
So you think Bernie was going to win the Republican votes by not praising them?
wyldwolf
Jun 2016
#118
Bernie wasn't sucking up to Bush who condoned torture & went to war on lies like Hillary is doing.
think
Jun 2016
#120
So you think Bernie was going to win the Republican votes by not praising them?
wyldwolf
Jun 2016
#126
Hillary can praise war pigs who tortured all she wants. Bernie won't stoop to that level
think
Jun 2016
#132
Did George W Bush condone torture? Did he send us to war based on lies? Do you think he deserves
think
Jun 2016
#135
We'll never have to find out how many people Bernie Sanders would scare and run off from the party
wyldwolf
Jun 2016
#136
If the questions are rhetorical then I assume you believe Bush did condone torture, lied us into war
think
Jun 2016
#148
the questions are rhetorical and are only being asked because Bernie lost and lost badly
wyldwolf
Jun 2016
#149
Hillary heaped praise on Bush the GOP war pig who tortured. But Hillary supported torture back then
think
Jun 2016
#150
It's completely irrelevant. I'm not running for president or trying to get votes
wyldwolf
Jun 2016
#181
Bernie was courting Independents. Thos who have divested from both parties because they
NorthCarolina
Jun 2016
#172
The absolute certainty of that posters every utterance here makes me chuckle.
CorkySt.Clair
Jun 2016
#28
Every candidate gets cross over voters. When SBS talked about outreach he was lauded. And her spread
bettyellen
Jun 2016
#14
Of course she will, every candidate does. Tons of republicans hate Trump enough.....
bettyellen
Jun 2016
#26
She doesn't need to shift RW or to adopt Sanders policies either--a lanslide is the prediction.
bettyellen
Jun 2016
#49
He's clicking the heels of his red sparkly shoes while he says it, so that will help a little.
Squinch
Jun 2016
#154
That must be why people like Susan Collins are publicly talking about supporting her.
TwilightZone
Jun 2016
#19
Hillary should do it by promoting the Democratic issues not by praising the likes of George W Bush.
think
Jun 2016
#22
I would like to think no DUer would need this explained to them. However, just in case...
stevenleser
Jun 2016
#90
Trump = Franco/Marcos/Batista/Somoza/Trujilo/Reza Pahlavi/Sigmund Rhee
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2016
#91
The "censorship" isn't going to go like the Clintonite neoliberals think it will go. (nt)
w4rma
Jun 2016
#100
They won't be necessary, because 'protected' anti-Semites won't be able to smear Democrats. (nt)
w4rma
Jun 2016
#105
Agreed. I honestly don't know what they'll talk about since they won't be able to smear Bernie.
w4rma
Jun 2016
#107
Yup. They are authoritarians and think in authoritarian terms. They do not see what is coming. (nt)
w4rma
Jun 2016
#109
He didn't "court" Liberty University. He spoke there and he didn't change his tune for their
Vinca
Jun 2016
#116
You realizw that EVERY winning Democratic candidate make outreach to Republcans?
brooklynite
Jun 2016
#124
And one of Sanders' big selling points was that he would attract "independents"
baldguy
Jun 2016
#159