2016 Postmortem

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177. And you have no idea how strong not-Trump feeling is. The WA post survey

Mon Jun 20, 2016, 02:42 AM

Jun 2016

out this week said Hillary had a negative -11 approval rating.

Which sounds bad till they mention that Trump had a negative -41 approval rating.

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If Hillary Clinton starts courting republicans, [View all] ThinkCritically Jun 2016 OP

Tick tock, tick tock ... less than 24 hours to go n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #1

I guess I need to use my time wisely! ThinkCritically Jun 2016 #2

ThinkCritically, please rethink. Our elected Hortensis Jun 2016 #18

Trust me, at the end of her campaign you still won't really know where she stands on anything. -nt- NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #104

HRC has a long liberal record, which is WHY the RW hates her so. Look it up... Hekate Jun 2016 #129

I wasn't born yesterday. I've been a registered Democrat since 1976. I know all I need to know NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #168

NC, HUAC is the House Unamerican Activities Committee. Hortensis Jun 2016 #182

how is she pottedplant Jun 2016 #130

LOL Let the lock step begin. To hell with the First Amendment. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #5

The First Amendment has NOTHING to do with this place, do you understand the First Amendment? SFnomad Jun 2016 #8

Do you? Would you even care if they were taken away? nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #13

Clearly you don't know what your 1A rights are ... you might want to look it up or have someone SFnomad Jun 2016 #15

Free speech certainly won't apply here and you are just fine with that. Live and Learn Jun 2016 #25

If this website censors what you can say, your 1A "Freedom of Speech" rights have NOT been violated SFnomad Jun 2016 #29

I never said it did. Enjoy your censorship. I will be using my First Amendment rights elsewhere. n Live and Learn Jun 2016 #47

Yes you did post #5 .... "LOL Let the lock step begin. To hell with the First Amendment." SFnomad Jun 2016 #50

Comprehension, much? nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #52

Clearly my comprehension skills are better than yours n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #55

In your mind, I am sure they are. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #58

And in reality as well ... you should really quit before you embarrass yourself any more n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #60

Pretty obvious your unable to feel it. Reality apparently differs for us. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #68

You can have your own opinions, but not your own facts ... SFnomad Jun 2016 #71

Why not? You sure do. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #72

Ok, enough with you ... let me know when you understand your 1A rights ... buh bye n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #73

Ohhh, I'm going to miss you so. Don't forget to come up for another breather sometime. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #76

buh bye n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #80

You already said that. Are you stuck on repeat mode? nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #82

What part didn't you understand .. the buh ... or the bye? buh bye n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #83

You really are stuck. Reprogram time. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #85

Definitely true, but is that really saying much of anything? Number23 Jun 2016 #163

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #112

Most right-wing authoritarians don't. There are plenty of those posting here. Broward Jun 2016 #46

You got that right. I think I hooked a couple. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #70

DU is privately owned and operated. Do you think the Admins (ie the owners) are RW authoritarians? Hekate Jun 2016 #137

So, you know nothing about the First Amendment. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #17

You got nothing. I don't do lock step. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #23

Nor do you do facts. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #36

Ridiculous. You are the one that doesn't understand. Someday you may. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #51

It's a privately owned website, not a newspaper. Sorry Charlie. Hekate Jun 2016 #138

Still censorship. I never said it violated MY first Amendment rights, now did I? Live and Learn Jun 2016 #169

Private censorship deathrind Jun 2016 #167

jr. high school tabasco Jun 2016 #153

Yeah, that's what I think about OPs like this too n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #156

So, it's fine by you that she plays with republicans instead of progressives ... earthshine Jun 2016 #185

She won't need to do that. Many Republicans will vote for her MineralMan Jun 2016 #3

Hard to fight a 55% disapproval. seabeckind Jun 2016 #34

Please stop what? MineralMan Jun 2016 #39

Not listening. seabeckind Jun 2016 #64

Hard to fight a 55% disapproval.<<< not when Trump is at 70% AntiBank Jun 2016 #122

The sun will come out tomorrow... brooklynite Jun 2016 #125

I dunno, its been raining for days here in Stockholm, lolol AntiBank Jun 2016 #127

And you have no idea how strong not-Trump feeling is. The WA post survey pnwmom Jun 2016 #177

Hillary is driving his support AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #77

GOP women will stand in the voting booths and contemplate the orange misogynist.... Hekate Jun 2016 #134

Will never happen AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #157

Do you understand the concept of swing voters AT ALL? Hekate Jun 2016 #158

Interesting - a few months ago Bernie folks were all in on him... wyldwolf Jun 2016 #4

+1 n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #9

The Third Way began recruiting them long ago with the DLC and the Clintons as founders. Live and Learn Jun 2016 #10

Not by praising George W Bush. Bernie courted them based on the same issues he was promoting to think Jun 2016 #11

So you think Bernie was going to win the Republican votes by not praising them? wyldwolf Jun 2016 #118

Bernie wasn't sucking up to Bush who condoned torture & went to war on lies like Hillary is doing. think Jun 2016 #120

So you think Bernie was going to win the Republican votes by not praising them? wyldwolf Jun 2016 #126

Hillary can praise war pigs who tortured all she wants. Bernie won't stoop to that level think Jun 2016 #132

Fortunately for us, we'll never find out. wyldwolf Jun 2016 #133

Did George W Bush condone torture? Did he send us to war based on lies? Do you think he deserves think Jun 2016 #135

We'll never have to find out how many people Bernie Sanders would scare and run off from the party wyldwolf Jun 2016 #136

Deflect much? think Jun 2016 #140

Lose much? wyldwolf Jun 2016 #141

And you deflect again. Way to double down... think Jun 2016 #142

And you'll lose next time, too wyldwolf Jun 2016 #143

Can't give an honest answer so you must toss out taunts. Got ya.... think Jun 2016 #145

can't win an election so you must toss out rhetorical questions. Got ya... wyldwolf Jun 2016 #147

If the questions are rhetorical then I assume you believe Bush did condone torture, lied us into war think Jun 2016 #148

the questions are rhetorical and are only being asked because Bernie lost and lost badly wyldwolf Jun 2016 #149

Hillary heaped praise on Bush the GOP war pig who tortured. But Hillary supported torture back then think Jun 2016 #150

Bernie couldn't win an election because he was incompetent ... wyldwolf Jun 2016 #151

Alright, wolf. Direct question for you. chwaliszewski Jun 2016 #166

Irrelevant wyldwolf Jun 2016 #179

Nice avoidance. chwaliszewski Jun 2016 #180

It's completely irrelevant. I'm not running for president or trying to get votes wyldwolf Jun 2016 #181

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #183

I think you're surprised when someone gives it right back to you. wyldwolf Jun 2016 #186

Bernie was courting Independents. Thos who have divested from both parties because they NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #172

Bernie was courting Republicans wyldwolf Jun 2016 #178

And therein lies the difference that Clinton supporters don't get... blackspade Jun 2016 #152

Courting people seabeckind Jun 2016 #40

Yes they use to brag about all the republicans that were going to workinclasszero Jun 2016 #45

Well, two things. Scootaloo Jun 2016 #57

Apart from speaking at Liberty College? sweetloukillbot Jun 2016 #66

Gee the berners forgot all about Bernie's republican outreach workinclasszero Jun 2016 #79

BUT BERNIE did not GO RIGHTWARD, he pulled them to the left. pansypoo53219 Jun 2016 #67

Exactly! n/t KoKo Jun 2016 #103

Sad that her supporters are incapable of grasping this concept on their own vintx Jun 2016 #146

The hypocrisy is stunning. smh Hekate Jun 2016 #139

Republicans will never, ever vote for her AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #6

There are already many "Refugee Republicans" abandoning Trump HereSince1628 Jun 2016 #12

They will not vote for Hillary AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #16

Is your crystal ball using cable, satellite or a digital antenna? HereSince1628 Jun 2016 #21

The absolute certainty of that posters every utterance here makes me chuckle. CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #28

Or is it a brown glass bottle,? okasha Jun 2016 #117

Every candidate gets cross over voters. When SBS talked about outreach he was lauded. And her spread bettyellen Jun 2016 #14

Hillary will get zero Republican votes AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #20

Of course she will, every candidate does. Tons of republicans hate Trump enough..... bettyellen Jun 2016 #26

Then she will lose AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #41

She doesn't need to shift RW or to adopt Sanders policies either--a lanslide is the prediction. bettyellen Jun 2016 #49

Republicans will never vote for her AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #56

You keep repeating yourself as if that will make it true. bettyellen Jun 2016 #59

Sad and delusional is right. I can't wait for tomorrow. grossproffit Jun 2016 #88

He's clicking the heels of his red sparkly shoes while he says it, so that will help a little. Squinch Jun 2016 #154

That must be why people like Susan Collins are publicly talking about supporting her. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #19

God forbid she should try to broaden her base and win the election. comradebillyboy Jun 2016 #7

Hillary should do it by promoting the Democratic issues not by praising the likes of George W Bush. think Jun 2016 #22

She isn't doing anything of the sort. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #98

Hillary Clinton invokes unlikely allies on the stump — the Bushes think Jun 2016 #99

"It's a big club and we ain't in it!" pokerfan Jun 2016 #161

+1,000,000,000 chwaliszewski Jun 2016 #170

It's the people she is courting that worries me. ThinkCritically Jun 2016 #24

Are you seriously saying Amaril Jun 2016 #35

I am not saying anything of the sort comradebillyboy Jun 2016 #44

"Broaden her base" also shrinks it Miles Archer Jun 2016 #62

Yup. I see Hillary's candidacy as just a speed bump The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2016 #102

i don't know that she has to "broaden her base" at all to win and win big 0rganism Jun 2016 #87

Actually - that is a 3rd Way Democrat FreakinDJ Jun 2016 #27

... MoonRiver Jun 2016 #30

Keep sleeping through the election. ThinkCritically Jun 2016 #31

I will only be sleeping through the election irrelevancies. MoonRiver Jun 2016 #63

"if you don't vote for the Republican, the Republicans win!" MisterP Jun 2016 #32

+1 ThinkCritically Jun 2016 #33

Truman said it right: WayBeyondBlue Jun 2016 #48

She's already gone after Bush donors. She's a right-winger. Broward Jun 2016 #37

Nah WayBeyondBlue Jun 2016 #54

No. she is not a right-winger OKNancy Jun 2016 #78

When it comes to foreign policy, she IS a right-winger. John Poet Jun 2016 #113

I'd like to think that even you will admit... Miles Archer Jun 2016 #115

For some of us this was a showstopper long ago. WayBeyondBlue Jun 2016 #38

Tick-tock, tick-tock says the clock Vogon_Glory Jun 2016 #42

Constructive criticism will be allowed. totodeinhere Jun 2016 #61

So tomorrow we'll go Green WayBeyondBlue Jun 2016 #65

Actually, no you won't leftofcool Jun 2016 #74

Thanks for making my point WayBeyondBlue Jun 2016 #81

You log out and don't come back tammywammy Jun 2016 #114

Many will vote for her because Trump is so horrible. Lil Missy Jun 2016 #43

I'm glad you brought that up. chwaliszewski Jun 2016 #171

Your premise is false. Try to follow the topic posited in the OP. Lil Missy Jun 2016 #174

Wrong. My hypothesis is possible. chwaliszewski Jun 2016 #176

lolz you guys! obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #53

Every successful public speaker targets their audience. procon Jun 2016 #69

Sanders spoke in front of Liberty University. OKNancy Jun 2016 #75

On Rosh Hashana to boot. grossproffit Jun 2016 #89

If? azurnoir Jun 2016 #84

Depends on what you mean by "courts" Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2016 #86

Are you fine with them wanting Condi Rice advising on foreign affairs? peacebird Jun 2016 #95

I'll wait for a more "official" source on that one Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2016 #119

I would like to think no DUer would need this explained to them. However, just in case... stevenleser Jun 2016 #90

Trump = Franco/Marcos/Batista/Somoza/Trujilo/Reza Pahlavi/Sigmund Rhee DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #91

Psst Hekate Jun 2016 #160

If progressives insist on being an unreliable voting block... Nonhlanhla Jun 2016 #92

I hate republicans MFM008 Jun 2016 #93

If she doesn't reach out to republicans she's an idiot. Buzz cook Jun 2016 #94

President of America which unfortunately includes Republicans MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #96

Huh? Bush is good and Bernie is bad? RobertEarl Jun 2016 #97

The "censorship" isn't going to go like the Clintonite neoliberals think it will go. (nt) w4rma Jun 2016 #100

I hope so RobertEarl Jun 2016 #101

They won't be necessary, because 'protected' anti-Semites won't be able to smear Democrats. (nt) w4rma Jun 2016 #105

That would be great! RobertEarl Jun 2016 #106

Agreed. I honestly don't know what they'll talk about since they won't be able to smear Bernie. w4rma Jun 2016 #107

No, it's not Miles Archer Jun 2016 #108

Yup. They are authoritarians and think in authoritarian terms. They do not see what is coming. (nt) w4rma Jun 2016 #109

Not sure what you mean by "courting" Martin Eden Jun 2016 #110

And where were you RandySF Jun 2016 #111

He didn't "court" Liberty University. He spoke there and he didn't change his tune for their Vinca Jun 2016 #116

Hillary should go wherever she wants for votes. kstewart33 Jun 2016 #121

Is this your first election? Dem2 Jun 2016 #123

You realizw that EVERY winning Democratic candidate make outreach to Republcans? brooklynite Jun 2016 #124

....And that's why Bernie lost the primary, and would lose the GE yuuuuugely. Hekate Jun 2016 #128

Were you as outraged when Sanders was courting Republicans? riversedge Jun 2016 #131

She's Joe Liberman with better PR jfern Jun 2016 #144

From the American Conservative Union in 2014 jamese777 Jun 2016 #155

And one of Sanders' big selling points was that he would attract "independents" baldguy Jun 2016 #159

They hate her guts. azmom Jun 2016 #162

When Obama courted conservatives in 08 I applauded him DJ13 Jun 2016 #164

No surprise. deathrind Jun 2016 #165

Her natural constituency. senz Jun 2016 #173

The more Bernie people who say they won't vote for her, the more centrists she'll need pnwmom Jun 2016 #175

She's running for president of the United States, not just of Democrats. Orsino Jun 2016 #184

Really? You'd better not read THIS Dec 2015 link, then--I think it might up-end your world view.... MADem Jun 2016 #187