2016 Postmortem

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)

66. Had all the stuff the DNC been accused of doing to Sanders been done,

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 06:51 PM

Jul 2016

I'd be okay with it. Sanders is a newcomer to the party. It is not the job of either major party to take a risk of there being a Trump. Sanders isn't a Trump, and I regret the comparison because it isn't fair to Sanders. But there are two reasons the Democrats have that would have prevented a Trump. 1. Superdelegates are far more powerful in the Democratic Party, and most are elected officials, accountable and with something at stake; and 2. We were far more willing to stick formally by the rules, but privately among the DNC members, remember who had worked with us in the past.

The anti-Semitic comments are unfortunate and got the guy ousted.

The good that comes out of the "biased" process is that outsiders like Jill Stein, (may she someday become sane) see that the rules will be followed, but that they are generally unwelcome.

This is politics, and the stakes are our very freedom.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

71 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Stupid things SAID in leaked emails, but was anything actually DONE to undercut Sanders? [View all] RBInMaine Jul 2016 OP

No, nothing was done OKNancy Jul 2016 #1

Their lawyers? rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #6

Ah Wikileaks don't want to be investigated/criticized! Threatening the media! LOL! Her Sister Jul 2016 #10

They're showing their true colors by threatening Joy like that. sarae Jul 2016 #36

Donald, is that you? EffieBlack Jul 2016 #44

No. But something was done with that leaked Clinton donor list that folks seem to have forgotten. nt glennward Jul 2016 #50

Joy Reid?? wikileaks?? I don't think so - asiliveandbreathe Jul 2016 #54

I copied that tweet straight from the wikileaks page OKNancy Jul 2016 #55

"Our lawyers"??? PatSeg Jul 2016 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author Press Virginia Jul 2016 #2

I responded to a friend on another board about Ilsa Jul 2016 #3

To reply honestly would be breaking the new rules. B Calm Jul 2016 #4

Be objective. Was anything DONE to undercut Bernie or not? Evidence please, not emotion. RBInMaine Jul 2016 #7

Fish not biting today. B Calm Jul 2016 #8

all these barracudas and sharks? reddread Jul 2016 #11

Adults are able to have civil, objective, evidence-based conversations. You might think about that. RBInMaine Jul 2016 #14

It's funny. You ask people to state a charge and provide LuvLoogie Jul 2016 #53

I see one post already removed. B Calm Jul 2016 #59

You might think about TOS. The actual truth cannot be discussed here, period. So we'll have JudyM Jul 2016 #63

Unlike the JPR site, right? Andy823 Jul 2016 #67

I am in fact not a member of JPR, so you might want to check your assumptions. JudyM Jul 2016 #68

Fisherman nonetheless convinced that the bait should be appealing. JudyM Jul 2016 #64

AP announcement on the eve of Ca primary reddread Jul 2016 #9

So now you are saying AP was involved? Even before California, the math wasn't there for Bernie still_one Jul 2016 #13

"was anything done to undercut Bernie?" reddread Jul 2016 #16

The AP announcement did not deter people from voting. still_one Jul 2016 #18

Of course it did. Scuba Jul 2016 #31

not in the New History it didnt reddread Jul 2016 #35

really, so Californians decided not to vote on the propositions and other offices because still_one Jul 2016 #39

do you believe in vote suppression? reddread Jul 2016 #42

Do you live in California? There were propositions and other offices on that ballot still_one Jul 2016 #38

In 2008 more than 5 million voted in the California Democratic primary. In 2016, < 3.5 million. Scuba Jul 2016 #45

not so. Your figures are NOT the final count still_one Jul 2016 #48

Yes, things were done that violated the impartiality rule ... Scuba Jul 2016 #5

#1 is the only violation I see. randome Jul 2016 #15

I agree. RBInMaine Jul 2016 #27

#1 is troubling, but doubtful any significant impact on the process. We also must remember CONTEXT. RBInMaine Jul 2016 #22

This just may be the funniest and most one-sided OP I've seen here in a while. merrily Jul 2016 #12

Then I guess you didn't bother to read the entire OP. If you have evidence that anything RBInMaine Jul 2016 #17

Why would I reply substantively to a post that implies I am not capable of adult conversation? merrily Jul 2016 #32

well, your guy this morning is wholeheartedly on the unity train OKNancy Jul 2016 #21

What does that have to do with what I posted? merrily Jul 2016 #23

And Bernie Sanders has just again said he strongly supports Hillary and will be going after Trump. RBInMaine Jul 2016 #29

What does that have to do with my comment about your OP post? merrily Jul 2016 #30

You imply that Bernie's campaign had to have been seriously undermined. I say not, and Bernie is RBInMaine Jul 2016 #33

Please see Reply 32. Thanks. merrily Jul 2016 #34

Then show me you ARE capable. Please, leave the thin skin to Donald Trump. RBInMaine Jul 2016 #37

Evidently, so does his former campaign chairman, Jeff Weaver. calimary Jul 2016 #52

No, nothing was done. Also, they were during the time when Bernie's camp was accusing them of crimes CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #19

As a former local politician Madam Mossfern Jul 2016 #43

Two questions: CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #47

If you're a DNC member you're a 'public servant' to the Party Madam Mossfern Jul 2016 #60

So you will believe what you want to, with no evidence to back it up. CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #61

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #20

Exactly, it's not worth a hide! B Calm Jul 2016 #24

Childish attacks and no substance at all. Typical. I feel sorry for you. RBInMaine Jul 2016 #26

Are you entirely incapable of a fair and adult conversation just because it might contradict RBInMaine Jul 2016 #25

Carry on! nt Logical Jul 2016 #28

It's just another death rattle from some diehard supporters giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #40

curves ahead reddread Jul 2016 #46

Lol giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #57

Only just enough stupid to spin it into a vast left wing conspiracy...over reaction run amok. L. Coyote Jul 2016 #41

Massive K & R. Thanks for posting. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #49

I'd like to respond, but the new rules forbid it Android3.14 Jul 2016 #51

It doesn't matter. Vinca Jul 2016 #56

Magic 8 Ball Says? NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #62

Exactly! People are allowed personal bias. It is called human nature. AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #65

Had all the stuff the DNC been accused of doing to Sanders been done, The Second Stone Jul 2016 #66

Jesus Christ, I feel like democracy should matter to you, as if that component has JCanete Jul 2016 #70

You don't need to support any behavior and you don't need to avoid Trump The Second Stone Jul 2016 #71

Nothing whatsoever treestar Jul 2016 #69