2016 Postmortem

FSogol

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88. "Our Revolution" is a Super Pac. It is not movement or a revolution.

Fri Aug 26, 2016, 05:53 AM

Aug 2016

"It's right-wing" to disagree with you?

The Democratic Party keeping the Presidency and gaining the House and Senate is the best chance of effecting real change, not Sander's rhetorical fund raising operation.

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Bernie Sanders starts new organization - "Our Revolution" [View all] CajunBlazer Aug 2016 OP

Jeff Weaver metroins Aug 2016 #1

Jeff Weaver needs to go. JaneyVee Aug 2016 #18

Those who left stated Andy823 Aug 2016 #19

He needs to go back to his comic book store in Virginia. George II Aug 2016 #48

Agreed. But Our Revolution as a group needs to go on. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #77

Serious question. What has Weaver done that is so bad? NCTraveler Aug 2016 #58

Horrible advice to Bernie metroins Aug 2016 #79

I think he was brilliant for Sanders. Couldn't have been any better. NCTraveler Aug 2016 #87

A Berner was at mtg this afternoon LiberalFighter Aug 2016 #2

I read a couple of days ago that Jane resigned. DURHAM D Aug 2016 #4

Nope. Just checked and as of 6 hours not the case. LiberalFighter Aug 2016 #15

Looks Like She's Out TheBaculumKing Aug 2016 #32

Good to hear. LiberalFighter Aug 2016 #33

It Will Eventually Come Out TheBaculumKing Aug 2016 #35

If you want to lobby, you need to register as a c4. wildeyed Aug 2016 #112

I doubt it, too much money to be made. George II Aug 2016 #49

Prediction: Weaver will be out soon. An on-going left-of-center organization to Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #3

Don't hold your breath... Blue Idaho Aug 2016 #24

We'll see. But a hard fact remains:. The Democratic Party cannot remain as it is, Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #61

Good luck with that... nt. Blue Idaho Aug 2016 #62

thanx..nt Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #66

You are welcome! nt. Blue Idaho Aug 2016 #71

I'm afraid it looks that way, and maybe opens itself up to astroturfing accusations. Dunno. ancianita Aug 2016 #113

I'll be at one of the kick-off gatherings tonight. DinahMoeHum Aug 2016 #5

Where's he been? Didn't he promise to do everything to defeat Trump? brush Aug 2016 #6

Writing A Book Me. Aug 2016 #7

celebrating his membership in the oligarchy by buying a $600K beach cottage lol nt msongs Aug 2016 #10

that has been beaten to death here...but why not some more dembotoz Aug 2016 #72

Good question, where has he been? Oh wait, I know. white_wolf Aug 2016 #16

Didn't Bernie say he would be all over the country supporting Hillary ..... CajunBlazer Aug 2016 #20

And he's been working for for months. white_wolf Aug 2016 #22

Sounds like he has been working on his new organization CajunBlazer Aug 2016 #25

And traditionally everyone takes a wee break before Labor day starts in contest in earnest. I am bettyellen Aug 2016 #57

Sanders has been taking a wee break since the convention CajunBlazer Aug 2016 #121

Actually I have recently seen his active on other issues - which I think sort of muddies the water.. bettyellen Aug 2016 #122

Oh, I don't know, maybe go out on the campaign trail from time to time — the usual way to help. brush Aug 2016 #27

It was announced starting next month he will be on the road. LiberalFighter Aug 2016 #34

Bernie Sanders will do an event in NH on Labor Day for HRC and Maggie Hassan. Eric J in MN Aug 2016 #39

My opinion is that the less he "campaigns" the more he's doing to defeat Trump. George II Aug 2016 #50

This. nt. NCTraveler Aug 2016 #59

How so? brush Aug 2016 #63

How does "Our Revolution" differ from a Super Pac? FSogol Aug 2016 #8

REVOLUTION! SaschaHM Aug 2016 #9

From this day on.... FSogol Aug 2016 #11

More Che posters. nt Codeine Aug 2016 #12

It would definitely remain to be seen. One thing that is pretty obvious is that this current JCanete Aug 2016 #28

Jeff Weaver's idea. Eric J in MN Aug 2016 #40

But the purpose of a PAC and a c4 are very different. wildeyed Aug 2016 #114

Our Revolution is a 501c4. Eric J in MN Aug 2016 #37

That was my reaction but Skidmore Aug 2016 #41

It's different because it works for the people, not anyone's personal self-interest. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #76

My question was rhetorical. It is no different than a Super Pac. All of FSogol Aug 2016 #82

Intent is what matters. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #85

"Our Revolution" is a Super Pac. It is not movement or a revolution. FSogol Aug 2016 #88

And Our Revolution's existence is part of making that happen. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #89

So, Super Pacs are good and necessary now according to Weaver and Sanders. FSogol Aug 2016 #90

It isn't a super pac. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #92

No, it isn't a superpac. SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #105

It is not just as bad. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #115

Whaaaaa?? SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #117

There's a sucker born every minute tralala Aug 2016 #119

Thank you for the info - SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #13

is this a superpac? bravenak Aug 2016 #84

It's a 501 c 4. IIRC. SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #95

Good idea bravenak Aug 2016 #97

Frankly, I'm not sure if I want this particular one to succeed. SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #98

I had hoped so too bravenak Aug 2016 #99

Yep. SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #100

Absolutely. Yep. all of them bravenak Aug 2016 #101

But we need them. SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #103

I'm also rather fond of DGA. SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #106

I'm wondering if there will be any grudge primaries for folks that didn't endorse Bernie. SaschaHM Aug 2016 #14

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Yep, and who set up Our Revolution as a 501(c)(4) that keeps donors' identity secret. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #23

Yep Andy823 Aug 2016 #26

Sounds like it's part of "the establishment" to me. brush Aug 2016 #44

I agree with you Andy823 Aug 2016 #80

Tax exempt, but apparently can endorse candidates, SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #104

It will air on FSTV 9PM EDT 6PM PDT BlueStateLib Aug 2016 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author MichiganVote Aug 2016 #29

he said outright in his speech that he would not be running the show because JCanete Aug 2016 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author MichiganVote Aug 2016 #31

It would be illegal for a Senator to direct a 501c4. It will be run by Jeff Weaver. (NT) Eric J in MN Aug 2016 #38

My concern with anything of this nature DemonGoddess Aug 2016 #36

It's a disaster waiting to happen. It's has a very "sour grapes"-ish feeling about it... NurseJackie Aug 2016 #53

Dunno about sour grapes, SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #108

Do you think the Democratic base is in any way comparable to the Republican base? Chathamization Aug 2016 #65

Yes, the Tea Party ideology is nuts DemonGoddess Aug 2016 #86

Two answers Eric J in MN Aug 2016 #42

Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #43

This is great, we Ds need an organized group that can focus on issues and promote the needed changes Sunlei Aug 2016 #45

Not for me, SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #109

That's a weird name for a group. Not very optimistic, uplifting or forward looking. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #46

huh...well some people aren't too troubled by the current state of things, or just think JCanete Aug 2016 #68

Well ... NurseJackie Aug 2016 #69

sure you won't be there to pour down the hot oil? JCanete Aug 2016 #81

No need. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #83

I agree. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #102

Great to hear. jalan48 Aug 2016 #47

Issues would have been nice to hear in this election.. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #54

I was in, up until I heard about Weaver. VulgarPoet Aug 2016 #51

Why is there so much hate for Weaver? democrattotheend Aug 2016 #70

I adore Bernie, SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #110

"They" got one called a revolution too. Historic NY Aug 2016 #52

Yes. Another revolution..how about electing a Dem majority in DC. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #56

Morning News said Bernie gave a speech last night and Never Mentioned Hillary at all. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #60

Bernie Sanders is doing an event on Labor Day in NH Eric J in MN Aug 2016 #64

well that's fucking ridiculous, because I heard the speech. JCanete Aug 2016 #67

you are 100 percent correct dembotoz Aug 2016 #73

Some people on both sides want to refight the primaries democrattotheend Aug 2016 #75

Any coverage the NY Times gives to anything Bernie and his supporters do will be dismissive. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #74

Depends if they focus on winning new senate seats rather than primary safe ones. We need a better bettyellen Aug 2016 #93

The primaries are mainly over for this year, so the point is moot. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #94

I'm talking about the down ticket races, and did not say "not ever" but if the group targets bettyellen Aug 2016 #96

The group will probably do both: Ken Burch Aug 2016 #116

It's kind of a bummer it's almost September and we aren't sure what they are doing. bettyellen Aug 2016 #118

He continues to get people involved G_j Aug 2016 #78

That is very true. I just hope for them to do it right. nt SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #111

There is such a great need for this. I wish them well. Vattel Aug 2016 #91

I don't. SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #107

Right now, I don't care about political infighting questions. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2016 #120

Once Hillary is elected GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #123