2016 Postmortem

JRLeft

(7,010 posts) Thu Nov 3, 2016, 06:46 PM Nov 2016

Cenk Uygur just announced he's voting for Hillary Clinton. [View all]

I know a lot of members despise him because he's not pro Hillary all the time, but that's not the job of the media. The media should not have cozy relationships with any of our politicians we need separation not friendships.

We've complained about it with republicans and we were right and it's not right when it happens on our side either.

Media kisses politicians asses for access. I don't care about media access, I care about facts not what's fed to the media through staffers.

Truth no matter what.

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Cenk Uygur just announced he's voting for Hillary Clinton. [View all] JRLeft Nov 2016 OP

While I am glad he is voting for Hillary, he still turned many against her... sorry he is not a Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #1

Exactly ... He worked hard to get younger voters to ... JoePhilly Nov 2016 #9

Nope it won't. I can't stand the guy and will never watch his show which I used to quite often. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #19

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Hey girl. uppityperson Nov 2016 #173

I wish I had read that. TexasTowelie Nov 2016 #206

Oh, it was good. betsuni Nov 2016 #214

I wonder which former DUer that now posts on the other site posted that? TexasTowelie Nov 2016 #215

Your signature is mesmerizing. vdogg Nov 2016 #229

Yes, TexasTowelie Nov 2016 #230

Thanks you always wonder what a poster posted (I didn't see it) Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #218

I think that person was such an angry sputtering hot baked potato that he replied to the betsuni Nov 2016 #223

Well...he sounds like he used to be one of us...and that is sad. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #235

Anyone who says that all DU has left are "females and blacks" is a troll, betsuni Nov 2016 #240

You are right. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #241

Young voters disliked her because of her incrementalism. JRLeft Nov 2016 #20

. NCTraveler Nov 2016 #24

+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2016 #27

Its called getting things done. JoePhilly Nov 2016 #35

I disagree, there's comprise and then there is let's not piss off Wall Street. JRLeft Nov 2016 #46

Well .... hopefully you'll get 8 years to complain about Hillary as she gets things done ... JoePhilly Nov 2016 #99

Can you explain that statement? Please? George II Nov 2016 #145

That is unfair. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #222

Given our divided country...there is going to have to be incrementalism...or do you Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #42

Compromise by starting far left and end up in the center instead of start negotiations JRLeft Nov 2016 #48

Fat left like no restrictions at all on abortion? that would have tanked Sanders candidacy -there's bettyellen Nov 2016 #64

No like ask for Single-Payer and settle for the public option. JRLeft Nov 2016 #68

PO was never going to pass ... that horse has been beaten to death over the last 8 years. JoePhilly Nov 2016 #102

The fact that both parties took money from the insurance industry had big impact too. JRLeft Nov 2016 #134

Lobbyists always give to both sides. JoePhilly Nov 2016 #139

Why do lobbyists always give to both sides? Cuz they want a fair fight? JCanete Nov 2016 #199

This again? A President doesn't do it all by him/herself. A President needs to get legislation.... George II Nov 2016 #150

+1 Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #207

We were never going to get either...that was the reality. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #224

You are kidding yourself with the Congress we have there is very little that can be Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #219

I am 22 years old that nonsense annoys me because.. JHan Nov 2016 #91

Nice post JHan. Auntie Bush Nov 2016 #133

Well stated! Fla Dem Nov 2016 #138

You are correct...how did you get to be so smart at 22? Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #220

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What they're not seeing and understanding is DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #137

That's just silly. It's called Democracy and the way progress Cha Nov 2016 #211

Young voters design castles. Hillary lays bricks. LuvLoogie Nov 2016 #234

He played and promoted the bullshit that Hillary is corrupt. Dawson Leery Nov 2016 #43

You don't believe Wall Street money influences politicians? JRLeft Nov 2016 #51

Are you saying Hillary is corrupt? Charles Bukowski Nov 2016 #67

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I guess it has no impact on republicans, right? No reason to care about dark money then. JRLeft Nov 2016 #97

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Are we saying that anybody is above it? Flatpicker Nov 2016 #153

It's not an unreasonable opinion Bradical79 Nov 2016 #69

You don't believe Wall Street is that generous do you? JRLeft Nov 2016 #84

What ruling allowed more money into politics? JoePhilly Nov 2016 #107

Wall Street is the reason why we enjoy such financial leverage in the world.. JHan Nov 2016 #110

I don't believe Hillary is corrupt. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #225

I agree with you. Nt metroins Nov 2016 #53

well said-- indeed. I know a couple who believe his BS reporting on the Clinton Foundation Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #79

It's officially a bandwagon folks ! OnDoutside Nov 2016 #2

More like a "come to Jesus", I think. Barack_America Nov 2016 #4

He still believes she's too cozy with Wall Street. I agree with him, but she's better than Trump. JRLeft Nov 2016 #12

Agreed. And hence the futility of a protest vote this year. Barack_America Nov 2016 #154

A bit late...and he is still trashing her. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #226

Eh. It's a vote and that's good...but he is still awful. n/t Lucinda Nov 2016 #3

^^This. Kahuna Nov 2016 #28

He's the Howard Stern "shock jock" of politics Dem2 Nov 2016 #5

Is that because he didn't back her 100%? JRLeft Nov 2016 #13

Nah. It's because he's a rage-a-holic Dem2 Nov 2016 #15

How many votes did he cost Sec Clinton with his nasty comments Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #23

This is silly, as usual. You can't always blame the person who talks about a person's JCanete Nov 2016 #192

This message was self-deleted by its author JCanete Nov 2016 #197

There is no'grief'...she has done nothing while elected that indicated close ties to Wall Street Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #228

what? bringing up the speeches was not a right wing attack, and would NEVER JCanete Nov 2016 #254

No. It's because he trafficked in lies. n/t musicblind Nov 2016 #250

Funny tidbit NastyWomen Nov 2016 #98

Huh Dem2 Nov 2016 #179

LOL NastyWomen Nov 2016 #181

Even David Frum is voting Hillary! GWC58 Nov 2016 #180

fuck him OKNancy Nov 2016 #6

What a POS...I did not know that. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #25

+1 Rose Siding Nov 2016 #88

Good Call DarthDem Nov 2016 #189

Whoa. "he's not pro Hillary all the time" Ratty Nov 2016 #7

No it hasn't, he covers Trump far more. It's not his job to pretend like everything JRLeft Nov 2016 #16

All of them...go down to Breitbart and read them. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #26

can you point to the actually false right wing talking points? That would be a problem. JCanete Nov 2016 #194

All the time? Bobbie Jo Nov 2016 #8

He's a piece of shit alcibiades_mystery Nov 2016 #10

I despise him because he's a genocide denier NobodyHere Nov 2016 #11

Actually he has a video admitting it did happen. JRLeft Nov 2016 #14

link? NobodyHere Nov 2016 #18

Cenk Uygur JRLeft Nov 2016 #39

I see he still doesn't acknowledge it NobodyHere Nov 2016 #132

Insignificant overall. He's personally responsible for suppressing more than one vote. NCTraveler Nov 2016 #21

I almost fell over dead at reading this. nt OhZone Nov 2016 #29

It's good news jzodda Nov 2016 #30

That is true...and maybe some seeing him voting for her will do the same...we can hope. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #32

Yep! I believe we will win jzodda Nov 2016 #36

That's what he said. He also said we need support her on the good and JRLeft Nov 2016 #41

Oooh, hold her feet to the fire? mcar Nov 2016 #74

If know one holds her feet to the fire the money will win out. JRLeft Nov 2016 #78

If so-called progressives treat President H Clinton mcar Nov 2016 #86

Democrats start off compromising from the right. We have to stop doing that. JRLeft Nov 2016 #95

So get the centrists through mcar Nov 2016 #103

Mcar nailed it with this, "We need to stop letting the perfect be the enemy of the good." Native Nov 2016 #184

So-called "progressives" started beating on Obama only weeks after he took office... George II Nov 2016 #114

IIRC, they started on Inauguration Day mcar Nov 2016 #118

It got to be unbearable, which is why I left. I truly hope that doesn't happen in January, but.... George II Nov 2016 #121

Me too, George mcar Nov 2016 #125

"Obama will slash Social Security in tonight's SOTU!" emulatorloo Nov 2016 #252

Well Done, mcar! Yeah, do everything 180 degrees differently Cha Nov 2016 #188

I hate that phrase too treestar Nov 2016 #246

yes, he could influence some of his fans. riversedge Nov 2016 #61

Who? stopbush Nov 2016 #33

He's certainly not someone to go to if you're looking for facts... Bradical79 Nov 2016 #34

He knows his clientele. NCTraveler Nov 2016 #38

What you say is correct but.... jzodda Nov 2016 #40

Can you provide me with a video of him spewing propaganda? JRLeft Nov 2016 #49

Two days ago Bradical79 Nov 2016 #55

The Wikileaks emails are not propaganda. Wikileaks has a 100% JRLeft Nov 2016 #56

He also sourced Zero Hedge, for example. Bradical79 Nov 2016 #62

Was it true? What was it that he sourced? JRLeft Nov 2016 #65

Got to leave, but the video is right there. Bradical79 Nov 2016 #71

There's no link, and was it true. JRLeft Nov 2016 #85

That is true. Flatpicker Nov 2016 #155

What? mcar Nov 2016 #116

Wiki=Assange sheshe2 Nov 2016 #149

Oh? You've been keeping statistics on wikileaks? George II Nov 2016 #165

I have Charles Bukowski Nov 2016 #200

Not true Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #251

Try this, but you have to sit through an ad first: George II Nov 2016 #171

Meh... DU is emotionally/intellectually fickle at times. demmiblue Nov 2016 #37

There are things I do not like to hear, but I need to hear them. JRLeft Nov 2016 #44

With all due respect, that is nonsense... Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #52

Hear what? JRLeft Nov 2016 #54

True. The others will get their little hissy-fits out of their systems and come together... demmiblue Nov 2016 #112

He is a washed up douchebag- Zero fucks given snooper2 Nov 2016 #47

Then why did you respond to the thread? JRLeft Nov 2016 #50

So you would respond snooper2 Nov 2016 #57

LMFAO! JRLeft Nov 2016 #59

He's been an annoying shit this entire election budkin Nov 2016 #58

He's been calling out corruption on both sides. Both parties take money from special interests and JRLeft Nov 2016 #60

I appreciate you've remained respectful amidst the disapproval of Cenk. Divine Discontent Nov 2016 #70

Anybody who couldn't come to that answer months ago is simply not worthy of any consideration BlueStreak Nov 2016 #63

This exactly. You'd have to be seriously impaired not to have seen that there was no Squinch Nov 2016 #128

He's a media whore like the rest of them nini Nov 2016 #73

Doesn't sound factual. He lost his job on MSNBC for NOT towing the kind of line JCanete Nov 2016 #195

I despise him because he's a hypocritical lying pig ismnotwasm Nov 2016 #76

Too little too late. We will win regardless still_one Nov 2016 #77

Cenk lives in California Charles Bukowski Nov 2016 #80

cenk Lies and Distorts the truth.. so who wouldn't hate that? Cha Nov 2016 #209

There's a lot of foolish despising happening around here, unfortunately. elleng Nov 2016 #81

Truth no matter what? October Nov 2016 #89

Quoting the OP: elleng Nov 2016 #92

There's a difference between... JHan Nov 2016 #117

And a lot of what he espouses is bullshit. Squinch Nov 2016 #130

No arguments from me there. /nt October Nov 2016 #135

Does he still trip over his words and shoot spittle when he gets worked up? Native Nov 2016 #186

Exactly, it's bullshite so who wouldn't hate that? Cha Nov 2016 #210

This message was self-deleted by its author bluedye33139 Nov 2016 #82

Uygur was a partisan supporter of sanders...and you think he wasn't? beachbumbob Nov 2016 #83

everybody is a partisan supporter. Those who actually declare it outwardly JCanete Nov 2016 #196

That's surprising Dopers_Greed Nov 2016 #90

The guy who had been posting Flatpicker Nov 2016 #100

Cenk use to be a republcan . he was part of the problem in JI7 Nov 2016 #93

Good on him Flatpicker Nov 2016 #94

I wouldn't label it "Not pro Hillary" ToxMarz Nov 2016 #96

If Hillary has to deal with a republican senate.. JHan Nov 2016 #119

I don't think it's cluelessness Flatpicker Nov 2016 #144

Good point but... JHan Nov 2016 #161

I agree completely Flatpicker Nov 2016 #168

And what has history shown us? Have our most successful leaders been grinders or gadflies? Native Nov 2016 #187

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Seems logical that grinders are most effective given a ruling structure in which power is shared. Native Nov 2016 #191

Did I miss something? I remember him saying this months ago. RAFisher Nov 2016 #101

not that I know of Flatpicker Nov 2016 #108

He went way beyond not being 100% behind Clinton Charles Bukowski Nov 2016 #160

That's fine Flatpicker Nov 2016 #162

Are we to do cartwheels and send him money? By the way.... George II Nov 2016 #104

Yay! I guess we'll carry California now. dawg Nov 2016 #105

Interesting comments. HassleCat Nov 2016 #106

This message was self-deleted by its author Flatpicker Nov 2016 #111

He pushes peoples buttons, of that there is no doubt. Which I think are his intentions. Rex Nov 2016 #122

Sounds like it. demmiblue Nov 2016 #136

Fuck him ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2016 #109

For me the yelling turds are as much media as the daily horoscope. nt fleabiscuit Nov 2016 #113

This sounds a lot like rehashing of the primaries and oh so subtle passive aggressive digs.. nini Nov 2016 #156

Yes, it does. betsuni Nov 2016 #163

yes Dem2 Nov 2016 #174

Really? It took this incredible ass this long? What a surprise! NNadir Nov 2016 #159

I imagine some people around here are going to lose their shit when they have.. aidbo Nov 2016 #175

He was cozy with Bernie upaloopa Nov 2016 #178

so are most sane people ibegurpard Nov 2016 #182

Fuck him. D23MIURG23 Nov 2016 #193

Stupid level of hatred on this board, and barely an ounce of graciousness. JCanete Nov 2016 #198

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I too am tired of demonizing people. lovemydog Nov 2016 #205

Good! UCmeNdc Nov 2016 #213

Gee, that's big of him lillypaddle Nov 2016 #216

Here is the link Helen Borg Nov 2016 #217

No, we despise him because he's a Republican grifting dumb progressives and pushing GOP agendas. BobbyDrake Nov 2016 #231

Cenk is one of the many examples forjusticethunders Nov 2016 #232

Wow! He can just order millions of people around like that! Helen Borg Nov 2016 #236

the problem with your argument is that "Cenk Uygur" and "intelligent debate" are opposites. BobbyDrake Nov 2016 #247

Yeah Gothmog Nov 2016 #237

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