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2016 Postmortem
Showing Original Post only (View all)Bernie Sanders did NOT ... NOT say ditch identity politics !!! [View all]
Last edited Tue Nov 22, 2016, 08:24 AM - Edit history (1)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/11/22/1602890/-Bernie-Sanders-identity-politics-economic-populism-and-the-Democratic-PartyI'll conceded I don't see how in context of this election the woman comment was needed at all... what the fuck was he thinking!?
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Sanders could've said "here's the way you can be the 2nd Latino Senator and please fight for the middle class as hard as you can and you'll win big" was spot on without the other words around it.
But this is from Sanders speech (not click bate stories)
In other words, one of the struggles that youre going to be seeing in the Democratic Party is whether we go beyond identity politics. I think its a step forward in America if you have an African-American head or CEO of some major corporation. But do you know what? If that guy is going to be shipping jobs out of this country and exploiting his workers, doesnt mean a whole hell of a lot if hes black or white or Latino.
I still feel that soreness of Cornell West (that was some bullshit) but lets agree that we don't care what package the person comes in if they're going to do 95% of the same thing the republicans are going to do then fuck em .... no matter what their identity is.
your take?
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        I agree, I would like to see a video... the link I posted is the whole thing transcribed though
        uponit7771
        Nov 2016
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        Hmmmm, so "here's the way you can be the 2nd Latino Senator and please fight for the middle
        uponit7771
        Nov 2016
        #10
      
        
        I think that worst thing in this election is finding out that misogyny exists on the left as well as
        Demsrule86
        Nov 2016
        #73
      
        
        The lesson of history is NOT that there should be no serious contest for the nomination.
        Ken Burch
        Nov 2016
        #78
      
        
        It was never Hillary or nothing.  She was never the only possible winner we had.
        Ken Burch
        Nov 2016
        #81
      
        
        The politico link I posted had this word for word, I do agree the woman part was NOT needed at
        uponit7771
        Nov 2016
        #6
      
        
        "...how is it that he doesn't recognize white nationalism as identity politics?" True point...
        uponit7771
        Nov 2016
        #9
      
        
        Wonderful advice. Too bad that Sanders and his diehards didn't heed it before the election.
        lapucelle
        Nov 2016
        #130
      
        
        Anyone who weaponized a presidential election vote by staying home or going third party
        lapucelle
        Nov 2016
        #128
      
        
        Yeap, Obama and Clinton weren't progressive "enough" and to some that was a call for outright ...
        uponit7771
        Nov 2016
        #13
      
        
        Unfortunately, not being white males and advocating for non-white, non-male interests
        forjusticethunders
        Nov 2016
        #15
      
        
        Bernie apparently doesn't think race and gender are the most defining factors
        ismnotwasm
        Nov 2016
        #16
      
        
        I'm closer to the Marxist Left but I am well aware we have intersectionality issues to work out
        forjusticethunders
        Nov 2016
        #47
      
        
        The issue is women's autonomy, women are their own persons who make their own decisions
        forjusticethunders
        Nov 2016
        #75
      
        
        "racists and sexists:"  From what I hear on DU, there are plenty right here, whatever the class.
        Eleanors38
        Nov 2016
        #103
      
        
        What "common good" can be achieved from normalizing a racist/sexist by working with them?
        MADem
        Nov 2016
        #104
      
        
        I would agree with your proposal, but it wouldn't come near matching 40+ millions.
        Eleanors38
        Nov 2016
        #121
      
        
        Often identity politics is a turnstile of approval, not a path to policy and action.
        Eleanors38
        Nov 2016
        #106