2016 Postmortem

potone

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107. Yes, you are right.

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 04:01 PM

Nov 2016

The cavalier attitude toward the loss of manufacturing jobs and the declining membership of unions is deeply disturbing and counter-productive. We really need to ditch the DLC/New Democrat ideology and get back to our roots as a party. The party is becoming moribund; if it isn't reformed it will die and be replaced by a new party. This is a crisis.

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Rural Democrats: Party Ignored Us, Suffered the Consequences [View all] mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2016 OP

Here's an outreach strategy for them.... Aviation Pro Nov 2016 #1

Holy crapoli. Are you campaigning for Cynic of the Month? Buzz Clik Nov 2016 #3

Rural voters are more likely to listen to whoever actually takes the time to come talk to them NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #17

lol Cosmocat Nov 2016 #21

1 gollygee Nov 2016 #22

Yes, he listened to them. That doesn't mean he cared or intends to do for them.. NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #53

HE didn't "show up" Cosmocat Nov 2016 #133

Once again... NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #136

Pence, Don Jr. and Eric all campaigned in my rural area. n/t OhioBlue Nov 2016 #124

And Hillary supporters campaigned in my rural area Cosmocat Nov 2016 #131

Are you in one of the rust belt states? NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #137

Yeah, Trump went to them with the campaign of Make America White Again. Hoyt Nov 2016 #54

This shit is getting beyond old NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #55

I feel your frustration! OnionPatch Nov 2016 #69

I dare them to switch out "rural" for the word black, Mexican, muslim or gay NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #71

Yep. Exactly. OnionPatch Nov 2016 #78

I'm glad I'm not the only one able to see the hypocrisy NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #79

I've been a Democrat my whole life. OnionPatch Nov 2016 #88

I'm just beyond frustrated with the elitist attitude NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #95

Believe what you want to believe. Trump didn't start leading in his primary until he called for Hoyt Nov 2016 #70

How is stereotyping rural Americans different from stereotyping any other group? NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #74

You expressed your exasperation earlier. Here's mine -- in the past 8 years, I've probably had 100 Hoyt Nov 2016 #86

It's the mention of skin color at all, that starts those arguments. Sunlei Nov 2016 #94

You were NOT calling out certain behavior by a few people NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #97

Are you an "ignorant white wing racist." If not, I am not talking about you. Should be obvious. Hoyt Nov 2016 #106

You replied to my comment, which was.... NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #113

My post stated what I believe Trump did going to "rural" areas. I still believe I'm right Hoyt Nov 2016 #116

What you said operates on the unfair and false assumption that white voters in the rust belt NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #117

Do you honestly believe his strategy was other than to appeal to ignorant white wing racists? Hoyt Nov 2016 #118

Once again...this is NOT about Trump's strategy because this thread is about VOTERS NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #121

Lumped in HassleCat Nov 2016 #93

I hear you, I know EXACTLY where your coming from.. virginia mountainman Nov 2016 #125

1 jack_krass Nov 2016 #126

So it's no factor then? RonniePudding Nov 2016 #138

He connected with them, I agree. Sunlei Nov 2016 #59

Not sure it was really so much about any connection as it was that because he showed up NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #77

No candidate had to show up in rural areas to win. They connected or not by what was said. Sunlei Nov 2016 #83

It's actually been way longer than 8 years of lies about Hillary NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #123

They already had their minds made up. Trump just reinforced their bigotry. duffyduff Nov 2016 #115

YEP Cosmocat Nov 2016 #20

So nothing is the Clinton campaign's fault? Goblinmonger Nov 2016 #36

Take a number. The line of groups complaining about being ignored is growing. Buzz Clik Nov 2016 #2

Or maybe the DNC can change what it's doing Goblinmonger Nov 2016 #37

If you don't like what's happening at the DNC, take over. It's not impossible. Buzz Clik Nov 2016 #52

Equally if the DNC can't be bothered to woo voters anymore, the party will also be a spectator. Kentonio Nov 2016 #72

The system dictates who gets attention and who does not. Buzz Clik Nov 2016 #85

Completely depends on a number of factors. Kentonio Nov 2016 #87

Or maybe we're just flinging shit in random fashion trying to assign blame where it doesn't belong. Buzz Clik Nov 2016 #89

Aww it sucks when DU isn't just an echo chamber for you anymore, doesn't it. Kentonio Nov 2016 #90

Your simplistic choice is one of the most "bless your little heart" things I've read this week LanternWaste Nov 2016 #134

Wow. So much petulance in so few words! Buzz Clik Nov 2016 #135

Take that, you Democrats. yallerdawg Nov 2016 #4

Nothing like that was posted in the OP. Why are you projecting such nasty rhetoric on someone KittyWampus Nov 2016 #12

The title of the piece? yallerdawg Nov 2016 #18

The OP is talking about rural Democrats Goblinmonger Nov 2016 #39

More like rural Democrats ignored Clinton. yallerdawg Nov 2016 #47

But Bill Clinton knew that she needed to target working class whites more Goblinmonger Nov 2016 #50

In the three states which cost us the election... yallerdawg Nov 2016 #57

I thought Bernie was supposed to deliver the millenials. Goblinmonger Nov 2016 #60

He did and he helped Hillary change a lot but there wasn't enough time or change from 'status quo D. Sunlei Nov 2016 #91

Post removed Post removed Nov 2016 #5

Sort of like, love it or leave it. How about you move out of the city and repopulate the rural areas KittyWampus Nov 2016 #10

Never gonna happen SoCalNative Nov 2016 #11

And societies change. Your attitude and comment is disgusting. Trash Democrats living in rural areas KittyWampus Nov 2016 #14

It is a flat out lie to say Obama and the Democrats have ignored rural America for eight years. LonePirate Nov 2016 #30

Are you suggesting they got the resources they needed from the DNC and Clinton Campaign? KittyWampus Nov 2016 #31

Oh, never mind. It's already been removed. NT mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2016 #13

You'll be the ones suffering the greatest. Sad and pathetic. onecaliberal Nov 2016 #6

Where does it say the writer voted for Trump? You are blaming Democrats who need support KittyWampus Nov 2016 #16

DU seems to be in full fuck poor, white rural voters mode. Ace Rothstein Nov 2016 #19

It doesn't say that the writer voted for Trump, as you know. potone Nov 2016 #24

Ding Ding Ding - we have a winner hueymahl Nov 2016 #42

Not to mention urban folks who are told... Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #73

Yes, you are right. potone Nov 2016 #107

What the heck is the end game? Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #109

there is no shortage of poor bashing here. Cobalt Violet Nov 2016 #66

I am blaming people who think voting for trump is going to help them in any way shape form onecaliberal Nov 2016 #108

Really nice hissy-fit, rural Democrats. Paladin Nov 2016 #7

Where does it say these rural Democrats voted Trump? The commentary in this thread is DISGUSTING KittyWampus Nov 2016 #15

All it takes liquid diamond Nov 2016 #100

If you want to get pissy, aim your angst at rural independents Amishman Nov 2016 #101

It's your fault we voted for a psychopath. TwilightZone Nov 2016 #8

I think these are the voices that need to be heard and the Democrats who need to step up. KittyWampus Nov 2016 #9

Agreed. NT hueymahl Nov 2016 #43

Yup. Kentonio Nov 2016 #76

I don't live in a rural area. Despite that, I'm not going to make the mistake of... Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #23

Farm subsidies and gun control TwilightZone Nov 2016 #27

Ugh. That's what I feared about farm subsidies. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #29

I can second TwilightZone's experience. Montana wheat farmers all wanted their Nay Nov 2016 #68

What rural Democrats? frazzled Nov 2016 #25

You expressed it better than I could have. TonyPDX Nov 2016 #26

Agreed. TwilightZone Nov 2016 #28

Wow. That's some elitist BS right there. Goblinmonger Nov 2016 #40

Agreed hueymahl Nov 2016 #45

Yeah, I expect better on DU Goblinmonger Nov 2016 #48

As Roosevelt himself said, "If those country bumpkins want electricity, they can move to the city." mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2016 #62

What's elitist about factual demographics? frazzled Nov 2016 #49

Disagree hollowdweller Nov 2016 #44

Yep. hueymahl Nov 2016 #46

Jesus, the Democrats you live turned GOPer because they felt "Democrats are for minorities only." Hoyt Nov 2016 #111

They are outnumbered but we need their votes geek tragedy Nov 2016 #56

My rural congressional district has voted D for 28 years. PotatoChip Nov 2016 #110

So they say now that they saw the electoral disaster coming... Orsino Nov 2016 #32

If they didn't vote, voted for Trump Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2016 #33

Yes, just keep doing the same thing Goblinmonger Nov 2016 #41

They went for Obama both elections, and then Sanders won. Then they went trump. Sunlei Nov 2016 #34

Obama lost the rural vote in both elections frazzled Nov 2016 #80

It was the 22 states and rustbelt areas I meant. I know the 2 million less than 300k a year "rural f Sunlei Nov 2016 #84

There is a phrase for that Egnever Nov 2016 #35

1,000 liquid diamond Nov 2016 #102

My sentiments exactly. Paladin Nov 2016 #104

1 uponit7771 Nov 2016 #127

They get ignored and the Democratic Party suffers the consequences? benld74 Nov 2016 #38

I am torn on this get the red out Nov 2016 #51

Agreed, and the article is putting forth a much different argument than... Garrett78 Nov 2016 #65

Does not apply to Nevada. Both candidates ignored rurals and HRC won. ffr Nov 2016 #58

I was speaking to a co-worker who said he voted for trump Ohioblue22 Nov 2016 #61

That article makes more sense than DU's popular "working class whites" narrative. Garrett78 Nov 2016 #63

I think you've summed up the whole marybourg Nov 2016 #92

Thanks. There's some conflation going on here, so... Garrett78 Nov 2016 #99

So they shoot themselves in the foot as revenge treestar Nov 2016 #64

Yeah I saw the big ass "Loggers for Trump" on the Olympic Pennensula. ismnotwasm Nov 2016 #67

Wha, wha wha. Fucking whiny rubes. stopbush Nov 2016 #75

Couldn't agree more. Dr. Mullion Blasto Nov 2016 #82

It fills me with so much fury reading the responses to this op. Kentonio Nov 2016 #81

plus 1,000 melman Nov 2016 #103

Thank You. (nt) PotatoChip Nov 2016 #112

Thank You! NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #122

and many are sick of the post that justify rural area cutting off their noses to spite their faces.. uponit7771 Nov 2016 #128

This. n/t ms liberty Nov 2016 #130

Well, in my rual area Dems are really Republicans. wisteria Nov 2016 #96

+1, which is why it's a fool's errand to chase these clods RonniePudding Nov 2016 #139

I will liquid diamond Nov 2016 #98

And Trump's appeal to rural America: GeorgeGist Nov 2016 #105

Oh, b.s. We never had the rural vote. duffyduff Nov 2016 #114

Chuck Schumer said that for every vote they lost in rural Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Wisconsin jfern Nov 2016 #119

former PA Dem chair was a rural guy DeminPennswoods Nov 2016 #120

Well worth reading. lovemydog Nov 2016 #129

Yeah, OK. joshcryer Nov 2016 #132