2016 Postmortem

HassleCat

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76. Here is the question.

Fri Jan 6, 2017, 11:34 PM

Jan 2017

We suspect election fraud when the results in machine precincts deviate from results in paper ballot precincts. We have seen states where exit polls match results in paper ballot precincts, but vary considerably for machine precincts where there is no paper trail. If this happened in 2016, we should suspect election fraud. It could be done by someone hacking into the machines, and "someone" might be the Russians. Or not. He's anyone bothered to figure out of the gap between exit polls and results is wider in places where votes were counted electronically? Of so, there is reason to think the Russians might have jimmies the election. If not, then it's likely that nobody had a finger on the scales, Russians or otherwise.

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What will it take for the Proofers to see what happened here? [View all] LaydeeBug Dec 2016 OP

In the post-fact era I doubt Putin on camera laughing at what dumbasses we were would be enough. Pholus Dec 2016 #1

Putin could shoot someone in public on Wall Street and get away with it... Sancho Dec 2016 #2

Lights Out Zoonart Dec 2016 #3

How about even the slightest bit of evidence? One shred mythology Dec 2016 #4

Again...I ask...honestly...I know you like to follow me around LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #5

Zero intelligence agencies SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #8

Wisconsin was not fairly recounted!!!!! ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #10

And which counties were those? n/t SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #18

Yes correct! triron Dec 2016 #20

Those counties MichMary Dec 2016 #25

Wrong. They ARE connected to the internet! ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #59

I skimmed this "article" HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #63

The authors don't agree... ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #65

Thank you. cwydro Dec 2016 #11

I see...so you won't be even a little bit surprised if there was indeed fraud in Hillary's LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #13

Exactly n/t SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #17

They probably hacked in for preparation Turbineguy Dec 2016 #52

Are you serious? Tavarious Jackson Dec 2016 #15

very...but only with me it seems, lol LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #32

17 intelligence agencies Hekate Dec 2016 #33

E-mails were leaked, MichMary Dec 2016 #6

No one at all thinks the machines were tampered with? I do LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #14

How? n/t MichMary Dec 2016 #22

Please melman Dec 2016 #24

It just might not be a good idea, lest you diminish yourself. LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #75

Not how. THAT. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #37

I do too... Blanks Dec 2016 #27

Not really so odd MichMary Dec 2016 #31

Yes, he knew, and that was hims walking her into it...he pulled LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #38

Maybe Trump was projecting. lapucelle Dec 2016 #51

I do dflprincess Jan 2017 #77

The emails were hacked & then leaked True_Blue Dec 2016 #19

Probably tried, MichMary Dec 2016 #23

But voter files *are* LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #39

Aaaaaaaand . . .? MichMary Dec 2016 #44

You weren't paying attention during the recounts then. pnwmom Dec 2016 #29

thank you for this. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #40

That's not really what the article said SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #41

It's a huge problem that 26 states use systems with this option. n/t pnwmom Dec 2016 #48

It's not a problem unless SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2017 #54

And you just trust all those states not to have done that? It's a problem pnwmom Jan 2017 #55

How so? n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2017 #57

they explained, "how so" LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #87

I wonder what the 26 states are?? triron Dec 2016 #42

The proof of Trump's collusion with the Russians will come... ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #7

I haven't seen a lot of questions... Blanks Dec 2016 #28

52% of all Democrats believe the Russian's hacked the vote tallies in Trump's favor ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #9

and half of the repubs believe Trump's claim he really won the popular vote onenote Dec 2016 #12

Many of us were able to deduce that the Russians were deliberately trying to get Trump elected - ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #61

My "motive" is to make sure we have the strongest case against Trump onenote Jan 2017 #62

yes triron Dec 2016 #21

Maybe some evidence..... former9thward Dec 2016 #16

The intelligence agencies aren't disputing the hack of the US Elections commission. pnwmom Dec 2016 #49

No intelligence agency has said the Russians were behind the Election Assistance Commission breach onenote Jan 2017 #56

We do NOT know the breach occured after election day. We only know pnwmom Jan 2017 #64

There is zero DECLASSIFIED, RELEASED evidence!! ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #60

The people claiming the hack are the ones pretending former9thward Jan 2017 #66

not so much a secret now, but I've been happy to fight FOR you nt LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #72

Please don't. former9thward Jan 2017 #78

Don't worry, I will...but you should LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #79

not true triron Jan 2017 #67

If you are going to hang your hat on exit polls former9thward Jan 2017 #68

oddly, they still *do* them. Funny that they only disagree when it's the KGOPB LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #73

There's a slim chance the Russians hacked our electronic voting machines. ... spin Dec 2016 #26

Former programmer Phoenix61 Dec 2016 #30

Check out these two threads for plenty of evidence of threats and potential for hacking. Amaryllis Dec 2016 #34

It's a fact that Russia interfered in our democracy True_Blue Dec 2016 #35

I was pretty sure it would be stolen when I read that RUssia had hacked into voter registration Amaryllis Dec 2016 #36

What mischief could they have triron Dec 2016 #43

Like Crosscheck, yes, but Amaryllis Dec 2016 #46

Finally! Ligyron Jan 2017 #81

You have to believe that the losing party in each state accepted the hacking HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #45

I got really involved in this whole issue after the stole the 2004 election and it is dang near Amaryllis Dec 2016 #47

You don't understand melman Dec 2016 #50

Omg! cwydro Dec 2016 #53

"Proofers" are the new "birthers" of the left... Blue_Tires Jan 2017 #58

kick for visibility triron Jan 2017 #69

Serioously...what *NOW*??? nt LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #70

I believe all of that might have happened... NCTraveler Jan 2017 #71

Nothing. They aren't looking for proof. They are looking for a reality that is NOT what we stand for AgadorSparticus Jan 2017 #74

Here is the question. HassleCat Jan 2017 #76

Hotel receipts, empty condom packages, your friends say they've seen them together... wyldwolf Jan 2017 #80

So the Russians kudzu22 Jan 2017 #82

Really? I mean...REALLY???? LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #83

Are you insinuating that Russia hacked voter machines? Exilednight Jan 2017 #84

Seriously? Pissed yet? What's it gonna take? LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #85

Now? triron Jan 2017 #86

This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Jan 2017 #88

What we know of the hacking isn't that way. apnu Jan 2017 #89

Clapper testimony included several points. He said that both the DNC and the Clinton campaign 24601 Jan 2017 #90

This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Jan 2017 #91