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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: It won't make the problems go away [View all]zipplewrath
(16,698 posts)32. no, we're going to disucss them
        But we're going to discuss them in the context of the last 10 or 15 years.
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        It's not a choice BETWEEN dealing with voter suppression OR recognizing that the party is in crisis.
        Ken Burch
        Jan 2017
        #6
      
        
        If a party loses due to voter suppression and/or russian infilitration and/or FBI meddling
        boston bean
        Jan 2017
        #9
      
        
        That is EXACTLY what Pat McCrory did in NC, too. DMVs never processed voter registrations
        blm
        Jan 2017
        #46
      
        
        RT bullshit was being spread here pretty thickly- and some people still buy that crap...
        bettyellen
        Jan 2017
        #2
      
        
        But someone did undermine our candidates.  How about adopting this unoffical rule:
        FSogol
        Jan 2017
        #10
      
        
        Yeah, because candidates will always run against the person who isn't in the race.
        zipplewrath
        Jan 2017
        #17
      
        
        We can't.  There a lot of us here who can't admit our campaign was less than perfect.
        dionysus
        Jan 2017
        #13
      
        
        I don't know if bernie could have won the GE, but i figure he would have stood just a good
        dionysus
        Jan 2017
        #18
      
        
        You mistake me for someone who care what a conservadem thinks, gush gallop aside.
        dionysus
        Jan 2017
        #52
      
        
        The label "far left" has little to do with their objectives - it's their mind set
        CajunBlazer
        Jan 2017
        #55
      
        
        When you start creating strawman and shove words in other people's mouths, you lose credibility.
        emulatorloo
        Jan 2017
        #58
      
        
        Gerrymandering and voter suppression?! We just going to ignore those factors now? tia
        uponit7771
        Jan 2017
        #24
      
        
        BULL FUCKIN SHIT !!! Comey, Voter suppression and Russia all the rest of the postmortems are guessin
        uponit7771
        Jan 2017
        #22
      
        
        Gerrymandering and voter suppression?! We just going to ignore those factors now?     tia
        uponit7771
        Jan 2017
        #30
      
        
        Their replies make it clear they don't understand gerrymandering and voter suppression...
        NCTraveler
        Jan 2017
        #37
      
        
        +1, we've got to do the 50 state thing all county thing ... without voter suppression and 
        uponit7771
        Jan 2017
        #39
      
        
        As a Floridian, I get the enormous importance of local elections and gerrymandering.
        NCTraveler
        Jan 2017
        #41
      
        
        OK, zip - how long have firms like Crosscheck been around and used by GOP vote suppression machine?
        blm
        Jan 2017
        #49
      
        
        Crosscheck blocked the votes of hundreds of thousands in swing states. That is the BIGGEST reason.
        blm
        Jan 2017
        #28
      
  