2016 Postmortem

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts) Fri Jul 10, 2015, 08:57 PM Jul 2015

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Still waiting for a hard-nosed analysis of how Sanders can [View all]

~~even hit 10%~~

~~even hit 15%~~

~~even hit 20%~~

~~even hit 25%~~

even hit 30%. OK? 30%.

The unrealistic Left needs to understand that this game is exclusively about raising more than $2 billion -- without doing what we in the 0.01% want him to do, Sanders won't even make a ~~teeny~~ ~~tiny~~ ~~small~~ ~~fairly-small~~ moderate dent in Hillary's numbers.

Regards,

TWM

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Still waiting for a hard-nosed analysis of how Sanders can [View all] MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 OP

As Obama proved, Hillary is just not a great campaigner. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #1

lolwut? JaneyVee Jul 2015 #4

Ronnie Ray-Guns was the greatest Campaigner in US history, lying sack of orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #7

Where am I? JaneyVee Jul 2015 #11

W orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #15

What do you mean by "following me"? JaneyVee Jul 2015 #16

sheesh. close your blinds AnAzulTexas Jul 2015 #43

The last 2 threads I realized was you, I thought I was Having the same conversation, orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #67

Too bad she didn't get to be President. eom Cleita Jul 2015 #8

We're talking about campaigning. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #13

Hillary beat Obama on popular vote? passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #33

Fine point, but... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #47

I don't object to your opinion that she is a fine campaigner passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #49

Part of being a good campainer is asking your field team to double check Exultant Democracy Jul 2015 #93

Depending upon the criteria used, either one had more popular votes... George II Jul 2015 #110

Unfortunately she hired the worst field team in recent history Exultant Democracy Jul 2015 #92

Uhm... kenfrequed Jul 2015 #161

Yep, as soon as Rahm was tapped I knew what would happen in 2010 Exultant Democracy Jul 2015 #162

We've seen Hillary this campaign less than Dick Cheney in 2004 . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #5

The election is almost 2 years away. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #9

At this point the election is in March . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #14

Plenty of time. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #17

I don't know how you guys can stand it LiberalLovinLug Jul 2015 #91

I don't know about reality but it's a show . MSM doesn't rule up there like here . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #132

16 months eom LiberalElite Jul 2015 #120

You know she was campaigning for nomination in 2007-08, right? Scootaloo Jul 2015 #130

This is like the Bugs Bunny cartoon John Poet Jul 2015 #68

LOL! Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #2

Is this open to the public or just K-Street aficionados ? orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #3

money alone doesn't win elections. retrowire Jul 2015 #6

It's like deja vu all over again artislife Jul 2015 #10

I take it you won't be voting for her if she wins nomination? JaneyVee Jul 2015 #18

You know what? Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #20

+1000 BeanMusical Jul 2015 #22

Oh no...you refuse the loyalty oath. zeemike Jul 2015 #32

Yeah, like I'm not already on "The List." Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #36

The "loyalty oath" meme ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #55

it's not a meme it is hyperbolic sarcasm. zeemike Jul 2015 #70

You sound like you haven't been around here too long, you should know better. A Simple Game Jul 2015 #76

It's quite simple. NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #121

And your last sentence proves one of my points, thanks. n/t A Simple Game Jul 2015 #136

That putting my country first ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #141

My point is that you vote for party before country. A Simple Game Jul 2015 #154

It's not justification ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #158

So now I see your problem, you are stuck in a box. A Simple Game Jul 2015 #159

A Republican is a Republican. NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #160

It's a not-so clever way to try to bait someone into violation of the TOS. So it amounts to rhett o rick Jul 2015 #101

One of them posted to me artislife Jul 2015 #102

If HRC does win the nomination, it would be interesting to see their next move. nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #103

some have even publicly complained to skinner about how basically disloyal Sanders Warren Stupidity Jul 2015 #111

One might think that if they didn't want to hear what Sen Sander's supporters had to say, rhett o rick Jul 2015 #119

OFFS how childish of them. Reminds me of school snitches trying to score brown nose points. L0oniX Jul 2015 #124

Is saying one will not vote for the Dem nominee ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #122

I will be glad to help you with that question. I am a bit surprised that you had to ask, rhett o rick Jul 2015 #133

Another great example ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #140

But a small group of far-right economic extremists have co-opted our party, MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #144

Those rules don't come into play UNTIL John Poet Jul 2015 #149

The discussion is not about rules ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #151

I AM talking about the TOS John Poet Jul 2015 #152

I'd respond with "message hidden by jury decision"... L0oniX Jul 2015 #123

Well, these days, what gets alerted on and hidden ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #131

Vote for Bernie and I will remove the gnat ...I promise L0oniX Jul 2015 #135

Hahaha! NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #148

I think I love you!. +100 840high Jul 2015 #44

Well, what a nice thing to say! Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #45

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #62

Well put tavalon Jul 2015 #66

Then don't. jeff47 Jul 2015 #82

The same thing that cost Hagan her seat. AlbertCat Jul 2015 #87

You describe exactly what I did. jeff47 Jul 2015 #88

who can't inspire voters to bother getting to the polls, AlbertCat Jul 2015 #118

No kidding. 99Forever Jul 2015 #74

true heaven05 Jul 2015 #77

Glad someone pointed that out. malthaussen Jul 2015 #79

I think they are keeping a list of all that respond that they won't support HRC if rhett o rick Jul 2015 #99

Yeah, Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #112

It's like being back in grade school all over again. L0oniX Jul 2015 #125

+1! Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #104

Let Taz Hot Kevin from WI Jul 2015 #134

Well, dang! Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #137

Just got clued in that you are baiting me to get banned artislife Jul 2015 #23

You might wanna get around to reading the TOS Flying Squirrel Jul 2015 #58

I will be voting for democrats artislife Jul 2015 #59

THEY are not-so cleverly trying to bait non-HRC supporters into violating the TOS. nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #100

Thanks for the heads up.... artislife Jul 2015 #60

Will someone from DU be standing behind me John Poet Jul 2015 #71

No but there are inner bowl toilet cams and mics being implanted as we speak. L0oniX Jul 2015 #126

In that case, I better John Poet Jul 2015 #150

If HRC wins the Nomination I really, reallly, really will vote for her.... Katashi_itto Jul 2015 #114

It's 3 AM and I want to talk to Hillary! John Poet Jul 2015 #69

Bwahahahahah L0oniX Jul 2015 #127

some of us, like me, mooseprime Jul 2015 #12

I like your posts too, you old phlegm-cutter you. Scuba Jul 2015 #19

One poll of many has him at 25%, all the others have him at 19% or less.... George II Jul 2015 #21

every poll that comes out....He is rising. n/t virtualobserver Jul 2015 #25

No more Maple leaf? nt. druidity33 Jul 2015 #34

I guess he realized calling him Canadian wasn't quite the "gotcha" he thought it was. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #84

+1 Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #106

one detail in this poll destroys the rich white liberal only meme...... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #24

Hmmmm DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #46

Every new poll that I see has Bernie rising compared to the previous version of the same poll virtualobserver Jul 2015 #48

That's not what the Huffington Post Poll Of Polls indicates: DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #50

Hillary hasn't been running since 2012 virtualobserver Jul 2015 #51

Senator Sanders has risen but HRC has remained in the high 50s , low 60s DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #52

from your link, you can see the downward trend on the chart for her virtualobserver Jul 2015 #53

She's lost four points since April, when the race heated up. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #63

I actually think she believes she ran in 92...nt artislife Jul 2015 #54

Hillary has been running for President... bvar22 Jul 2015 #107

K&R. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #26

Kicked Enthusiast Jul 2015 #27

I love the way you use humor and facts to cut through the BS. R. P. McMurphy Jul 2015 #28

I've been thinking about this Plucketeer Jul 2015 #29

Tonight, I rec a MannyGoldstein thread. Hiraeth Jul 2015 #30

THAT IS A VIOLATION OF THE TOS! L0oniX Jul 2015 #128

automatic MannyG kick ENGAGE. navarth Jul 2015 #31

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #35

Not positive it will be Hillary in the primary but it will not be Bernie. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #37

Really? How did you get to that conclusion? morningfog Jul 2015 #39

Bernie just can't draw the big crowds. The Rolling Stones just drew a crowd of 40,000 in Detroit. tclambert Jul 2015 #38

Bernie hasn't campaigned in Detroit yet. morningfog Jul 2015 #40

If he pulls in more people than the Stones that would be truly awesome. tclambert Jul 2015 #42

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #41

Maybe he could appear on stage with them Mnpaul Jul 2015 #75

That's worth a LOL. malthaussen Jul 2015 #81

cuz all is supporters are chanting "WE think he CAN, WE think he CAN" and helping him up the Hill fed-up Jul 2015 #56

sensible as always ibegurpard Jul 2015 #57

What about the nomination? Capn Sunshine Jul 2015 #61

There's an enormous number of people saying "I like Bernie, but he can't win" jeff47 Jul 2015 #85

So get the ground game going... Man of Distinction Jul 2015 #146

Our poll experts were touting that he would not BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #64

Kos is a whore. John Poet Jul 2015 #72

#100 rec. #Bernt. AtomicKitten Jul 2015 #65

And besides... 99Forever Jul 2015 #73

God, not this shizzle again! She's earned it! R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #116

Captain Yossarian can go home after 25 missions... malthaussen Jul 2015 #78

Catch 2016? nt MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #80

Bernie Minderbinder says Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #83

Most people vote emotionally, just like they buy emotionally. Logic often lags behind as to how libdem4life Jul 2015 #86

Any challenger from the left was going to start with 30% support Fred Friendlier Jul 2015 #89

But it was this challenger artislife Jul 2015 #96

Bernie didn't start with an automatic 30%. bvar22 Jul 2015 #109

I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me how a 72-year-old Arkana Jul 2015 #90

Simple - Bernie explains what he means by democratic socialism TBF Jul 2015 #97

Yes, because the right will definitely make that distinction. Arkana Jul 2015 #115

"And what does he do for money, pray tell"? TBF Jul 2015 #153

Like this guy did. bvar22 Jul 2015 #157

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #94

this is not about Sanders vs Clinton azureblue Jul 2015 #95

Combined they are too old - TBF Jul 2015 #98

Since I became aware of The Clintons, bvar22 Jul 2015 #108

This is why I hope Hillary, should she win the nomination, gets a good leftist VP -- senz Jul 2015 #143

I refuse to be her Vice President. bvar22 Jul 2015 #155

LOL, thanks, bvar22. After having just gotten barred from a thread, I needed a good laugh. ;-) senz Jul 2015 #156

People are talking about the general election iandhr Jul 2015 #105

two words: The Internet fbc Jul 2015 #113

Just watch the goal post movers, they are running around frantically trying to be in the right place sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #117

Those goal posts have NOS powered monster truck castors. L0oniX Jul 2015 #129

Lol! sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #138

All is well!!! MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #145

Lol, I believe that will be the fate of the goal post movers before this all over. Flat on the sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #147

Yes, Manny these are the interpretations: sadoldgirl Jul 2015 #139

When people close to HRC start giong after Bernie, I know I'm on the right path. Avalux Jul 2015 #142