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In reply to the discussion: Clinton plans Tuesday meetings with all Hill Democrats [View all]karynnj
(60,489 posts)76. In the first, she is using the demand for single payer as a threat - saying if you don't have
something like her plan, by 2000 (note that is still in the Clinton years - Bush was sworn in in 2001) there would be so much demand for single payer, that would happen.
As to 2008. I didn't see the link, but found the article as you had the reporter, the paper and date (thanks)
However, here is what she says of single payer:
MRS. CLINTON: You know, I have thought about this, as you might guess, for 15 years and I never seriously considered a single payer system. Obviously, I listened to arguments about its advantages and disadvantages, and many people who I have a great deal of respect for certainly think that it is the only way to go. But I said, as you quoted me, that we had to do what would appeal to and actually coincide with what the body politic will and political coalition building was. So I think if you look at most public opinion surveys, even from groups of people who you would think would be pretty positive towards single payer, Americans have a very skeptical attitude. They dont really know that Medicare is a single payer system. They dont really think about that. They think about these foreign countries that they hear all these stories about, whether theyre true or not, which theyre often not. And so talking about single payer really is a conversation ender for most Americans, because then they become very nervous about socialized medicine and all the rest of this. So I never really seriously considered it.
Here's the link to the full article - http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/27/us/politics/27text-health.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 - which is good. In fact, Obama, Clinton and Edwards were ALL speaking of nearly the same proposal. In fact, ANY one of them would have likely ended with the same system -- because Congress actually designed what could pass. In fact, the plans they proposed looked a lot like Dean's and especially Kerry's (Kerry's reinsurance of catastrophic costs is important to making preexisting illnesses coverable in a reasonable way.)
I have no problem with what Clinton said - her plan, Obama's plan etc were what could pass at a time of an unusual majority in Congress.
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So you leverage a result of Republican obstructionism to ridicule Democratic solidarity?
LuvLoogie
Jul 2015
#27
Considering the dismal public opinion of Congress, no 'endorsements' might be a good thing. eom
Purveyor
Jul 2015
#86
That's one way to go out on the top of one's game, I guess. But unlikely. n/t
freshwest
Jul 2015
#50
A "closed door" session with no reporters and no reporting. No cell phones and no notes taken.
cherokeeprogressive
Jul 2015
#17
LOL. That pic reminds me of business cards handed out by real estate agents.
cherokeeprogressive
Jul 2015
#22
A "closed door" session with no reporters and no reporting. No cell phones and no notes taken.
AlbertCat
Jul 2015
#96
A previously posted article indicates several key candidates already met with the union
Sheepshank
Jul 2015
#23
I don't think it was part of her duties as SoS. And she hasn't held an official position since.
freshwest
Jul 2015
#43
You and I are both right, I won't argue on the details, but here are her words:
freshwest
Jul 2015
#73
In the first, she is using the demand for single payer as a threat - saying if you don't have
karynnj
Jul 2015
#76
Sorry that didn't format right, but I'm too busy to correct it now. We're on the same page.
freshwest
Jul 2015
#82
But let's not forget the effort she put in to lead a health care task force when Bill was
calimary
Jul 2015
#83
Even so, was there ANYBODY ELSE ANYWHERE who was willing to stick his or her neck out
calimary
Jul 2015
#98
If the Dems in Congress have to endorse her, because of the "D", if they have to be
djean111
Jul 2015
#26
Who said the Dems in Congress "HAVE" to endorse her? If she didn't meet with them no doubt....
George II
Jul 2015
#100
Well it is Hillary and some here have to see the dark side in anuthing she does.
hrmjustin
Jul 2015
#34