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2016 Postmortem

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Armstead

(47,803 posts)
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 12:03 AM Jul 2015

So it's a pile on by progressives of the most progressive candidate out there [View all]

Apparently Bernie Sanders, who has spent his whole life fighting for social and economic justice, is not good enough for cettain contingents because he has not made Race the centerpiece of his campaign -- at least he has not packaged it in an acceptable way.

Therefore he is to be tossed into the trash heap of candidates who are not good enough to represent progressive positions.

Can soneone enlighten me as to who is acceptable? The bar keeps getting raised and shifted so I don't know who the hell is going to pass the litmus test.

Personally, Bernie has been my main man since way back, when he was one of a lonely handful of very rare progressives in the House. And even among them, he was often alone out there on the limb standing up for truly progressive issues...Back when it was a dirty secret to talk about what was really happening to Americas poor, working and middle classes.

It is so depressing that now some are condeming him for not being pure enough....

And as a lefty, I hate it when people pull that "purity" line...And here I am doing it.

It feels like falling down the rabbit hole.

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Bernie is a pro and has handled worse. He'll deal with it with courage, dignity and JDPriestly Jul 2015 #1
Oh I'm not worried about him Armstead Jul 2015 #4
Many are sincerely passionate about it, but I have seen many HRC supporters opportunistically GoneFishin Jul 2015 #2
They hope it moves our attention from Hillary's quiet elephants in the room: marble falls Jul 2015 #36
It is not a pile on by Progressives, do not be fooled, it is obvious where these attacks are sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #3
Yeah, not progressives RobertEarl Jul 2015 #5
Bingo. Just today in GD & GDP, you can view posts from those bashing Sanders and supporters stranger81 Jul 2015 #9
Wait, wut????????? Find with Koch brothers? But bash Sanders? cui bono Jul 2015 #19
Here: stranger81 Jul 2015 #27
that is blatantly dishonest dsc Jul 2015 #40
The poster said they don't care about the stranger81 Jul 2015 #68
You are calling out bravenak brer cat Jul 2015 #41
I can read. So can everyone else here. stranger81 Jul 2015 #66
Yes.... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #95
Agreed. stranger81 Jul 2015 #96
Try again mcar Jul 2015 #87
It says what it says. stranger81 Jul 2015 #88
+1 cui bono Jul 2015 #18
Nor liberals, either. -none Jul 2015 #55
Bernie 's got this! He is a tough politician. He will turn it into a win. ALBliberal Jul 2015 #6
trust in yourself, the rest pay cash reddread Jul 2015 #7
It's mostly the same small handful of people, with some exceptions. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #8
The big blow up is less about Sanders than it is those purporting to speak FOR him. MADem Jul 2015 #13
Well, I support him, but I'm not his spokesman. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #14
My reference had more to do with how people who aren't presently onboard his campaign MADem Jul 2015 #70
They purport to speak for him? Really? Or do they just speak? merrily Jul 2015 #64
I don't think Sanders wants a lot of the "speaking" some of his fans are pushing out. MADem Jul 2015 #65
Ah, so YOU purport to speak for Sanders, to know what he wants, but not to defend him, merrily Jul 2015 #71
+1000! Puglover Jul 2015 #74
What part of the phrase "I don't think" would lead you to conclude that I was expressing ANYTHING MADem Jul 2015 #75
Busted. bvar22 Jul 2015 #81
Teh ignore button works wonders. Tommymac Jul 2015 #10
Oh My Goodness ... Trajan Jul 2015 #102
Know what you mean. Been here 11+ years - don't post much. Tommymac Jul 2015 #104
They're not progressives. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #11
Yep...I've had it passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #15
Good for you. Gotta pace yourself. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #16
it's not so much a matter of who is "acceptable", but of being totally fed up Skittles Jul 2015 #12
Questionable, yet completely transparent. Especially with the new talking point: cui bono Jul 2015 #20
That new talking point is so sad and pathetic one has to laugh. Vattel Jul 2015 #29
"Past record doesn't matter" HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #47
Wait a minute. bvar22 Jul 2015 #82
I hope we don't miss the boat because of shortsightedness by some people world wide wally Jul 2015 #17
Corporatists, not progressives doing the attacking dreamnightwind Jul 2015 #21
No, it is not a pile on BainsBane Jul 2015 #22
Why do you keep bothering? Let these people think whatever the hamster that powers their brains tell Number23 Jul 2015 #23
You're right, of course BainsBane Jul 2015 #24
They don't want us. We don't need them. Number23 Jul 2015 #25
Jury results merrily Jul 2015 #42
Sorry, your tab is going to turn yellow again. Agschmid Jul 2015 #45
No, you don't know that. What you actually know is that you complained merrily Jul 2015 #46
It's META, thats not a mis-representation. Agschmid Jul 2015 #48
Your yellow tab comment was misrepresentation merrily Jul 2015 #49
. Agschmid Jul 2015 #50
Oh, please do search for at least a couple. merrily Jul 2015 #52
Who am I? Agschmid Jul 2015 #54
Um, no. The group hosts are in charge of challenging what gets posted in a group, not every merrily Jul 2015 #61
Actually... Agschmid Jul 2015 #63
You did not get blocked from that group because of me. I had nothing to do with that. merrily Jul 2015 #69
Can you please link me all the similar requests you've made to all the posters who have posted cui bono Jul 2015 #86
No. Agschmid Jul 2015 #93
So it doesn't matter if they do it? That's the theme here on DU lately. cui bono Jul 2015 #94
It absolutely matters that they do it. Agschmid Jul 2015 #103
Bernie hosts did the right thing and locked it, thanks. Agschmid Jul 2015 #44
Kind of makes you wonder why it was worthy of even being posted in the exalted Bernie Sanders Number23 Jul 2015 #77
Indeed. Like this guy is a paid right winger.... MADem Jul 2015 #72
White progressives claim ownership to the word progressive now. And apparently everyone that doesn't Number23 Jul 2015 #76
Ain't that the truth! MADem Jul 2015 #78
That's taking victimhood to a whole new level of insane accusations. Here's Cha Jul 2015 #108
Point out one quote where either Sanders or O'Malley said BLM is "rude, thugs, and right-wing plant" marble falls Jul 2015 #59
I didn't say they did BainsBane Jul 2015 #73
The anti-Bernie folks are not progressives. democrank Jul 2015 #26
Politics is a very dirty game. PeteSelman Jul 2015 #28
Their is a very real race problem. But it is being successfully exploited by the right wing of the GoneFishin Jul 2015 #30
It's dirty campaigning by the dirty campaigners. 99Forever Jul 2015 #31
Good post Armstead. Thank you Autumn Jul 2015 #32
Its not about Bernie. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #33
Please consider making this an OP snpsmom Jul 2015 #34
+1 n/t FSogol Jul 2015 #35
Excellent post Andy823 Jul 2015 #37
I'm a Bernie supporter and I agree with you. myrna minx Jul 2015 #43
+1000000 Bobbie Jo Jul 2015 #51
I can only speak for myself but... Armstead Jul 2015 #53
If Bernie supporters want Bernie to win the primary ... JoePhilly Jul 2015 #62
...and the reverse is also True. bvar22 Jul 2015 #83
Nowhere did I suggest she would be able to stop violence and racism in the US. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #85
No. bvar22 Jul 2015 #111
Hey Joe. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #91
What is economic democracy? BainsBane Jul 2015 #101
Good post! Agschmid Jul 2015 #60
Excellent observations, JoePhilly. lovemydog Jul 2015 #99
Much appreciated. nt JoePhilly Jul 2015 #109
"Its not about Bernie." Thank you so much for this, JoePhilly!! they're making bernie the victim Cha Jul 2015 #107
Thanks. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #110
If people want to win people's hearts and minds maybe they shouldn't accuse them of "race nagging." DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #38
Unfortunatley, O'Malley isn't getting much attention. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #39
No, it's not. Stop being so damn defensive and hyperbolic. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #56
My fantasy-- oldandhappy Jul 2015 #57
I was perfectly happy hating Republicans and everything they stand for... Jester Messiah Jul 2015 #58
if you find yourself hating black activists and their allies more than Republicans, this definitely geek tragedy Jul 2015 #84
And no heat DonCoquixote Jul 2015 #67
I don't see a pile on at all. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #79
Kochs and their minions and apologists are the enemy. Not Bernie. eom JEB Jul 2015 #80
Are you calling Black Lives Matters minions to the Kochs? BainsBane Jul 2015 #97
There arn't any liberals bashing Sanders Doctor_J Jul 2015 #89
"Bashing" BainsBane Jul 2015 #100
You conflate disagreeing with Bernie's detractors with being racist .. Trajan Jul 2015 #105
You keep pretending this is all about Hillary and Sanders BainsBane Jul 2015 #106
We all see what we want to see postatomic Jul 2015 #90
Spot on BainsBane Jul 2015 #98
Huge K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #92
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