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JDPriestly

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7. From what I read on this board, most Black people do not understand the extent to which
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 05:49 PM
Aug 2015

having the "right" that is in the view of racists, the racist view on race is a matter of achieving standing and self-respect for the racists.

We have to shift that view, that social understanding.

Please tell me if I am wrong what you see as the problem with racism and the solutions to it.

Because I have been asking DUers who are Black to explain that to me, and I have not received any answers that make sense to me.

I think that the unbounded cruelty that we see in some of the videos of racist police officers abusing their Black victims is a very frightening indication about deep problems in our society.

That anger is focused on Black victims, but it cannot possibly be related in fact to the simple color of a person's skin. So how can it be explained.

Telling white people to stop it does not seem to work.

We have a lot of laws in place to prevent the brutality. They don't seem to work.

We have anti-discrimination laws. They don't work.

What is the answer?

If I am wrong, I would like to know more about why I am wrong and what is right.

I do not pretend that my analysis is perfect or even right. But I hope that it sets off a discussion beyond just the "you are wrong," and "that is a racist analysis."

Blacks and whites have been trying to improve race relations in our country for decades now and we have come a long way, but we are still in big trouble on this issue.

I would love to read your understanding of the issue of racism.

I mean that sincerely. So far, the statements I have read on DU have not seemed to really grasp it to me.

Again, I think that the problem with racism is that white racists find their sense of social place in the organization of their society to depend on viewing Black people and other people of color as beneath them on the social ladder.

If that view of their sense of social place could be changed, then we could at least drastically reduce racism.

I say that because I remember that I had a lower place in the social pyramid in the South by virtue of being a Yankee. My Jewish friends also had a lower place by virtue of being Jewish.

So it is in my view the existence of that pyramid in the South which is more defined than it is elsewhere in the country that makes it so difficult to lose racist attitudes.

I'm sorry if that offends DUers, but I think that when we have a problem in our country that is as severe as the problem of racism is that we should not censor our attempts to get to the causes of them and perhaps even find a cure.

I will be interested in hearing your thoughts on the issues I am raising.

If I am wrong and am shown where I am wrong in my thinking, I will be the first to admit it. But just saying I am wrong without backing it up with a good explanation as to why is insufficient somehow.

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Their strategy on who to back is awful. mmonk Aug 2015 #1
From a Texas Democrat, your post is sad and wrong Gothmog Aug 2015 #2
Yes. I think I pointed out that I do not know anything about Texas or the Western Southern JDPriestly Aug 2015 #4
The California change is very very recent and I applaud it Gothmog Aug 2015 #9
Thanks for the great post. It really broadened my understanding. I hope a lot of people read it. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #20
There is so much absurd about this brer cat Aug 2015 #3
From what I read on this board, most Black people do not understand the extent to which JDPriestly Aug 2015 #7
"it cannot possibly be related in fact to the simple color of a person's skin" For real? Metric System Aug 2015 #11
It's so hard for me to believe. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #23
Are you sure you understood the post? s/he is saying that it is a problem jwirr Aug 2015 #36
You are characterizing the OP as saying that brer cat Aug 2015 #37
Yes, I read that to mean that there is nothing wrong with the black jwirr Aug 2015 #38
Posted to for later. 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #5
I would love to read your response to this. Thanks. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #8
As would I Gothmog Aug 2015 #10
Whoa! The pressure is on ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #12
Remember. I base this on my subjective experience of many years ago. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #16
I'm still digesting it and probably won't get to writing until this weekend .. 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #25
I am hoping that you will add your experience and deep understanding to it. I was so young. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #26
Corporate Democrats + Republicans = Success for the 1% N/T Skwmom Aug 2015 #6
I'm a Tennessean and that debutante pyramid system was never whispered to me. Fawke Em Aug 2015 #13
Interesting. How do we change this? JDPriestly Aug 2015 #17
An OP titled 'understanding southern society' filled with this kind of generalizing, appalachiablue Aug 2015 #14
Are you from the South? JDPriestly Aug 2015 #18
Interesting, but too long RobertEarl Aug 2015 #15
Thanks. I know my post is too long. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #19
Bernie will take NC RobertEarl Aug 2015 #21
I'm very happy to see this: JDPriestly Aug 2015 #22
We have two templates for winning candidates in the South Recursion Aug 2015 #24
We run barely Democrats in the South, but because it is the South they are far more JDPriestly Aug 2015 #27
What do do with the South? Garrett78 Aug 2015 #28
I couldn't download the first link, but I especially liked this: JDPriestly Aug 2015 #30
Southerners view themselves as individualists. BKH70041 Aug 2015 #29
Do you think that they think of themselves as individualists because they don't want to think JDPriestly Aug 2015 #31
I've never noted what you describe at all. BKH70041 Aug 2015 #32
I think Democrats should fight hard for the South, if they want to be a national party. Period. NYCButterfinger Aug 2015 #33
Wow. Right or wrong this is one of the best thought out post I have ever jwirr Aug 2015 #34
This is so racist. moobu2 Aug 2015 #35
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