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JDPriestly

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23. It's so hard for me to believe.

Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:33 AM

Aug 2015

I used to live in a country in which to be Turkish was to be viewed as an outcast. Black was OK, but Turkish??????

A European country in which the Turkish were the immigrants, the outcasts, the "guest" workers, the folks who did the dirty work. And so the Turkish children and their families really had a rough time.

If you were partly or totally African-American or African, you were viewed as rather interesting and exotic and were far more acceptable than someone Turkish. Although being a born citizen of the country was viewed as the best. Even I suffered there although I am white.

I don't want to say that race is unimportant to people in that country. They do not accept any outsiders all that readily, but being of African descent is not the big problem that it is here. Being of Turkish descent was a bigger problem when I lived there.

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The DLC's Failed Southern Strategy and Understanding Southern Society [View all] JDPriestly Aug 2015 OP

Their strategy on who to back is awful. mmonk Aug 2015 #1

From a Texas Democrat, your post is sad and wrong Gothmog Aug 2015 #2

Yes. I think I pointed out that I do not know anything about Texas or the Western Southern JDPriestly Aug 2015 #4

The California change is very very recent and I applaud it Gothmog Aug 2015 #9

Thanks for the great post. It really broadened my understanding. I hope a lot of people read it. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #20

There is so much absurd about this brer cat Aug 2015 #3

From what I read on this board, most Black people do not understand the extent to which JDPriestly Aug 2015 #7

"it cannot possibly be related in fact to the simple color of a person's skin" For real? Metric System Aug 2015 #11

It's so hard for me to believe. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #23

Are you sure you understood the post? s/he is saying that it is a problem jwirr Aug 2015 #36

You are characterizing the OP as saying that brer cat Aug 2015 #37

Yes, I read that to mean that there is nothing wrong with the black jwirr Aug 2015 #38

Posted to for later. 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #5

I would love to read your response to this. Thanks. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #8

As would I Gothmog Aug 2015 #10

Whoa! The pressure is on ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #12

Remember. I base this on my subjective experience of many years ago. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #16

I'm still digesting it and probably won't get to writing until this weekend .. 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #25

I am hoping that you will add your experience and deep understanding to it. I was so young. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #26

Corporate Democrats + Republicans = Success for the 1% N/T Skwmom Aug 2015 #6

I'm a Tennessean and that debutante pyramid system was never whispered to me. Fawke Em Aug 2015 #13

Interesting. How do we change this? JDPriestly Aug 2015 #17

An OP titled 'understanding southern society' filled with this kind of generalizing, appalachiablue Aug 2015 #14

Are you from the South? JDPriestly Aug 2015 #18

Interesting, but too long RobertEarl Aug 2015 #15

Thanks. I know my post is too long. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #19

Bernie will take NC RobertEarl Aug 2015 #21

I'm very happy to see this: JDPriestly Aug 2015 #22

We have two templates for winning candidates in the South Recursion Aug 2015 #24

We run barely Democrats in the South, but because it is the South they are far more JDPriestly Aug 2015 #27

What do do with the South? Garrett78 Aug 2015 #28

I couldn't download the first link, but I especially liked this: JDPriestly Aug 2015 #30

Southerners view themselves as individualists. BKH70041 Aug 2015 #29

Do you think that they think of themselves as individualists because they don't want to think JDPriestly Aug 2015 #31

I've never noted what you describe at all. BKH70041 Aug 2015 #32

I think Democrats should fight hard for the South, if they want to be a national party. Period. NYCButterfinger Aug 2015 #33

Wow. Right or wrong this is one of the best thought out post I have ever jwirr Aug 2015 #34

This is so racist. moobu2 Aug 2015 #35