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Gothmog

(167,911 posts)
12. Tell your amusing views to Nate Silver
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 02:06 PM
Sep 2015

Nate and company still do not think that Bernie will be the nominee http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/bernie-sanders-new-hampshire/

So why do I still think Sanders is a factional candidate? He hasn’t made any inroads with non-white voters — in particular black voters, a crucial wing of the Democratic coalition and whose support was a big part of President Obama’s toppling of Clinton in the 2008 primary. Not only are African-Americans the majority of Democratic voters in the South Carolina primary (a crucial early contest), they make up somewhere between 19 percent and 24 percent of Democrats nationwide. In the past two YouGov polls, Sanders has averaged just 5 percent with black voters. Ipsos’s weekly tracking poll has him at an average of only 7 percent over the past two weeks. Fox News (the only live-interview pollster to publish results among non-white voters in July and August) had Clinton leading Sanders 62-10 among non-white Democrats in mid-July and 65-14 in mid-August. Clinton’s edge with non-whites held even as Sanders cut her overall lead from 40 percentage points to 19.

There are other indications that Sanders is unlikely to win the nomination. He hasn’t won a single endorsement from a governor, senator or member of the U.S. House of Representatives (unlike Obama at this point in the 2008 campaign). Sanders is also well behind in the money race (again, unlike Obama). These indicators haven’t changed over the past month.

But even if you put aside those metrics, Sanders is running into the problem that other insurgent Democrats have in past election cycles. You can win Iowa relying mostly on white liberals. You can win New Hampshire. But as Gary Hart and Bill Bradley learned, you can’t win a Democratic nomination without substantial support from African-Americans.

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Sorry... quickesst Sep 2015 #2
That isn't nice. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #4
You are right of course.... quickesst Sep 2015 #10
Biden will be the nominee if there is an implosion in the Clinton campaign Gothmog Sep 2015 #3
That's my take BainsBane Sep 2015 #6
Biden has never been able to catch fire. Hillary, on the other hand? reddread Sep 2015 #8
Are you still beating that old drum? hedda_foil Sep 2015 #9
Tell your amusing views to Nate Silver Gothmog Sep 2015 #12
Those screwed by the bankruptcy bill by two of those candidates are a BIG demographic! cascadiance Sep 2015 #13
Translation: "Bernie makes... demwing Sep 2015 #25
K&R! marym625 Sep 2015 #5
The premise is true musiclawyer Sep 2015 #7
She is +35 nationally. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #11
And not long ago, she was +55. (nt) jeff47 Sep 2015 #14
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And falling pinebox Sep 2015 #18
this is the new stuff today roguevalley Sep 2015 #17
BENGHAAAAAAAAAAZI!!!!!!!! Howdy Gowdy says thanks! Metric System Sep 2015 #22
Unfortunately for Hillary all to many people think the jwirr Sep 2015 #23
*runs through the thread...* BooScout Sep 2015 #16
LMAO! They wish. leftofcool Sep 2015 #19
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LOL and completely correct. jwirr Sep 2015 #21
K & R L0oniX Sep 2015 #24
geez, can't people grow up still_one Sep 2015 #26
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