OK I'll just say it: the dem establishment wants to lose this election

[restorefreedom]

266. some very good points.

i do think that there are many passionate supporters who want their candidate to win. but i also think that corporate power desires to maintain itself. and for some, that power trandscends party lines.

i would be very curious (your point 5), as to who the president will support if biden and clinton are both in the race.

i like joe, but if his heart is not in it, i hope he does not cave to pressure to "save us."

i disagree with you on point 4. i think letting the repubs get so much unimpeded air time is hurting the dems and we might lose some ge voters we will not get back.

as to point 1, traditionally the establishment tends to regain ground over time. but it sure looks like this cycle is not playing by any of the traditional rules.

and i agree with you on 2, that some really want biden in.