OK I'll just say it: the dem establishment wants to lose this election

[NanceGreggs]

267. For an "evidence-based person" ...

... you sure rely heavily on your own opinion rather than "evidence".

Let's deal with some facts for a change.

Hillary entered this primary race with incredible poll numbers of support among Democrats, and beating all probable GOP contenders handily.

When BS announced, his supporters immediately started calling for HRC to "drop out" because she couldn't win - despite those poll numbers, which BS supporters simply chose to ignore.

Despite still being the clear front-runner, BS supporters continue to state that Hillary is unpopular. Again, any polls saying the opposite are simply dismissed as being inaccurate or irrelevant.

The fact that BS can't get a single endorsement from his Congressional colleagues is put down to every one of them being "terrified" of blowback from the "Clinton machine". No quarter is given to the idea that his colleagues don't think he's presidential material - no, it's got to be something else, something nefarious and conspiratorial.

And the PTB in the Dem Party are all part of that conspiracy, determined to take a good man down - who, as of this writing, is still far behind the front-runner in support.

Allow me to play Devil's Advcocate. It would seem that those who want to "lose this election" are the same people who think the front-runner - still HRC - should be abandoned, and replaced by a self-identified socialist who wants to lead the party he has disparaged for decades and still refuses to be a member of, the guy who can't get a single colleague to endorse him, the guy who can't get any traction with the AA demographic (which he is going nowhere without), the guy who is still lagging behind HRC in the polls - all based on the premise that he's the one who can win the GE - all evidence to the contrary.

Many BS supporters here have declared that they will NOT vote for Hillary is she is the nominee. I have not seen any HRC supporters declaring they will NOT for Bernie is he is the nominee.

Now, tell me again who is willing to lose this election: the voters behind the front-runner who will vote for whoever the Dem nominee winds up being, or the voters who think the front-runner should be ditched and replaced by the guy who is still lagging behind her in the polls?

Do I believe that every BS supporter is willing to lose this election? No, of course not. But do I believe that there are people who are allegedly BS supporters who are more than happy to advise their "fellow Democrats" to support the man who is at this point the least likely to win the GE between the two choices.

It's rather difficult to take people seriously when they speak "based on the evidence" - and then completely ignore any evidence that doesn't align with their own opinion - or reality.