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2016 Postmortem

bigtree

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8. maybe progressives need a new label

Reply to Hortensis (Reply #7)

Fri Oct 9, 2015, 12:04 PM

Oct 2015

..'liberal' is the term I'd give Hillary. She just hasn't been aligned with the depth and breadth of most progressive politics and policies in the past decade or so, and her rhetorical embrace of some of the tenets of progressive policy is either compromised by timidity or politics, or part of an election season conversion.

That's not as damning to me as it may be to others, but there must be a way to define her policy and politics from the tenor and content of the Sanders and O'Malley candidacies. I don't think Sen. Clinton is speaking the same language.

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Martin O'Malley's Comprehensive, Progressive Trade Policy [View all] bigtree Oct 2015 OP

Good for O'Malley! Hopefully putting this out there will help focus Hortensis Oct 2015 #1

there was a lot of talk before the campaigns began about the need for progressive challenges bigtree Oct 2015 #3

Bigtree, remember, O'Malley is FREE to challenge. Since he's a Democrat, Hortensis Oct 2015 #5

I understand that folks can't be aware of his every effort bigtree Oct 2015 #6

Well, hers is a third, after all. Remember, progressivism refers Hortensis Oct 2015 #7

maybe progressives need a new label bigtree Oct 2015 #8

Bigtree, liberal and progressive have well established meanings. Hortensis Oct 2015 #10

the term certainly did evolve from liberalism, for whatever reason bigtree Oct 2015 #11

Sorry, charlie. I'm a progressive liberal, just like generations of Hortensis Oct 2015 #12

well, we really differentiate ourselves by the views and positions we hold and promote bigtree Oct 2015 #13

My FIL was a progressive conservative Republican (the "conservative" Hortensis Oct 2015 #14

no one is 'hijacking' the term bigtree Oct 2015 #15

Honest Answer Armstead Oct 2015 #22

tell me though bigtree Oct 2015 #23

I've seen him...It's been limited but... Armstead Oct 2015 #24

K & R. n/t FSogol Oct 2015 #2

This is excellent artislife Oct 2015 #4

This is an incredible plan. Thanks for sharing. askew Oct 2015 #9

'detailed' is his O'M in this campaign bigtree Oct 2015 #16

sorry ass response to these excellent proposals bigtree Oct 2015 #17

Clearly, politics. elleng Oct 2015 #19

it's hard to accept there are so few here willing to post about O'Malley bigtree Oct 2015 #20

I agree, it IS hard to accept, bigtree, elleng Oct 2015 #30

Supporters of other candidates here are so unsure of their candidate that FSogol Oct 2015 #25

Okay, part of the problem is skepticism against these elephantine "free trade" agreements Armstead Oct 2015 #26

I think addressing the 'new baroque frameworks' is central to changing the corrupting process bigtree Oct 2015 #27

Anything that focuses and CLARIFIES trade policy and agreements is good Armstead Oct 2015 #28

I'll give you that, Armstead, elleng Oct 2015 #31

'As president, Governor O’Malley will support free trade agreements—but only elleng Oct 2015 #18

—trade can open new markets for U.S. businesses, lift standards for workers in developing countries, bigtree Oct 2015 #21

So right, elleng Oct 2015 #32

Hurray for real, lifelong progressive Democrats! McCamy Taylor Oct 2015 #29

IMAGINE THAT! elleng Oct 2015 #33

KICK elleng Oct 2015 #34