2016 Postmortem

Armstead

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37. Google is your friend

Sun Oct 11, 2015, 11:28 AM

Oct 2015

I am sure as the campaigns progress, Bernie will be making proposals.

In the meantime if you are truly sincere about wanting to learn about his positions and policies, there is plenty of statements, votes, policy proposals and other information about Sanders available, going back to the early 1990's.

There's this wonderful website called Google. There are also others called You Tube, Bing, etc.

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Bernie Sanders ‘Mistaken’ With Criticism Over Action During Financial Crisis, Ben Bernanke Says [View all] portlander23 Oct 2015 OP

When We Stand Together - No Citizen Need Settle For A Failed Federal Reserve - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Oct 2015 #1

As an economist, lets think about this for a moment... JaneyVee Oct 2015 #2

Agree. Anyway, banks too big to fail are OUR FAULT. Hortensis Oct 2015 #3

Banks should have been nationalized, their assets seized, their KingCharlemagne Oct 2015 #4

yes Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #6

Yeah, I'm sure a huge govt power grab of private wealth will resonate with voters. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #10

No he wasn't, but his vote against the bailout would have been a national disaster if others had still_one Oct 2015 #19

Stockholders and bondholders were allowed to escape KingCharlemagne Oct 2015 #46

Agreed, but that wasn't Bernanke's directive, it was to halt the collapse. The justice department still_one Oct 2015 #56

Bernanke was nothing more than a bagman for the 1% - nt KingCharlemagne Oct 2015 #60

Nope. You and I disagree. He helped prevent the second great depression. Have a nice day still_one Oct 2015 #61

You have fallen victim to the Post hoc, ergo propter hoc fallacy. (Because KingCharlemagne Oct 2015 #69

have a good evening still_one Oct 2015 #82

+3 AOR Oct 2015 #65

+2 AOR Oct 2015 #64

Wow! Sounds like a Tea Party line...whose "private wealth?" Human101948 Oct 2015 #25

Bernie isn't even suggesting that scenario. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #30

I pointed out what actually happened... Human101948 Oct 2015 #54

I'm not defending too big to fail. My point is... JaneyVee Oct 2015 #71

What would have happened if the government took them over and guaranteed them... Human101948 Oct 2015 #75

Ok, so that's one point. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #81

How is it a "grab" if the government purchases the shares at fair market value? Jim Lane Oct 2015 #67

It would have went over swimmingly with everyone but the Tea Party AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #78

Agreed. The assets seized and the bank nationalized. KansDem Oct 2015 #39

So why hasn't Bernie suggested this? JaneyVee Oct 2015 #41

Sanders suggested the equivalent when he argued that banks should be broken up and not allowed to KingCharlemagne Oct 2015 #48

Precisely... KansDem Oct 2015 #62

Yes, no one is arguing against that. My point is... JaneyVee Oct 2015 #72

Breaking up the banks makes them more valuable. joshcryer Oct 2015 #87

Good points all. I was rather sloppy and lazy in my KingCharlemagne Oct 2015 #90

+100 nt 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #43

+1 AOR Oct 2015 #63

So during the financial crisis, bankers hasn't been arrested and given their due process Time_Lord Oct 2015 #5

Banks repayed their loans. But... JaneyVee Oct 2015 #8

Here Time_Lord Oct 2015 #12

That's not a policy proposal. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #15

Okay.. here is Bernie's official stance. Time_Lord Oct 2015 #18

How about a written policy proposal? JaneyVee Oct 2015 #21

How about actions he has already taken? Time_Lord Oct 2015 #22

And one of his actions was irresponsible and reckless and JaneyVee Oct 2015 #31

Which one? The one that voted against the bailout? Time_Lord Oct 2015 #34

Follow this scenario: JaneyVee Oct 2015 #38

That riversedge Oct 2015 #44

Intellectually-dishonest debate tactic 4e: your resume is not big enough for you to comment. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #47

Bankers after bankers after bankers after bankers after bankers Time_Lord Oct 2015 #45

So you in no uncertain terms subscribe to the idea that the banks are too big to fail? Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #53

No, that has nothing to do with my original point, which JaneyVee Oct 2015 #70

Here's why Armstead Oct 2015 #42

Google is your friend Armstead Oct 2015 #37

Is this the new Not Good Enough, Bernie! talking point from Camp Weathervane? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #68

You're an economist now too? Fearless Oct 2015 #9

You're making the same argument rightwingers use to privatize SS. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #13

Wait? Are you or are you not an economist? I ask because you implied you were. Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #55

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!? Fearless Oct 2015 #84

JaneyVee has one message: Bernie Bad! demwing Oct 2015 #89

I think you responded to the wrong post. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #91

The one you responded to was however. Fearless Oct 2015 #93

It would have been a disaster. Millions of people would have been destroyed. We would have gone still_one Oct 2015 #11

Still, it was the bankers fault that they caused the Great Recession Time_Lord Oct 2015 #26

The prime directive was to prevent a complete economic collapse, and avoid even more panic. still_one Oct 2015 #29

Why do you present a binary choice? It was not 'do this or do nothing'. What has been done to Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #17

The binary choice was reflective of the circumstances JaneyVee Oct 2015 #24

The binary choice is a function of groupthink which is reinforced by a threat... Human101948 Oct 2015 #58

I agree, and its not too late to tighten market regulations... JaneyVee Oct 2015 #73

we could have bailed out the customers cojoel Oct 2015 #23

+Infinity! - nt KingCharlemagne Oct 2015 #36

We did bail out the customers. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #74

+1, I don't believe how much winger crap is repeated about the baillouts on this forum its like uponit7771 Oct 2015 #80

it was a side effect cojoel Oct 2015 #94

New York enid602 Oct 2015 #33

EXACTLY. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #35

London enid602 Oct 2015 #49

The ones who have the most criticsm for the actions don't have to think, they're already rich so the uponit7771 Oct 2015 #79

Elizabeth Warren's own oversight of TARP... joshcryer Oct 2015 #88

Good points, but... JaneyVee Oct 2015 #92

When it comes to an important vote... joshcryer Oct 2015 #95

That's Mr.-takin' to you, buddy! appal_jack Oct 2015 #7

Obviously you have no concept how many people lives would have been destroyed if they didn't do the still_one Oct 2015 #14

Too big to fail. Time_Lord Oct 2015 #28

Dodd/Frank tries to address that, not completely however, but definitely a step in the right still_one Oct 2015 #51

Playing on fears; unqualified expert opinion. Nope. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #50

Hello my friend. Ben Bernanke does have the credentials. It wasn't fear mongering. still_one Oct 2015 #52

Why is this tool quote-worthy now? whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #16

Because Camp Weathervane thinks it helps their gal? WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #32

Bernanke Faux pas Oct 2015 #20

I have to laugh when he says regulators and Congress didn't see it coming. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #27

Have people here forgotten Michael KingCharlemagne Oct 2015 #40

The Big Short: Inside the Doomsday Machine? WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #76

They and their cheerleaders ABSOLUTELY think we're complete idiots Hydra Oct 2015 #83

Exactly, and that fucking 45-minute mushroom cloud. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #86

Bernanke's assessment is "mistaken." nt LWolf Oct 2015 #57

"Ben Bernanke Says"???? Bwahahahahahhahhaha. 99Forever Oct 2015 #59

Why do I think if people like Bernie had been able to wield more power Vinca Oct 2015 #66

Ben 'Binary Thinking' Benanke strikes again. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #77

Please find the post I did here about how Sanders sold out Ron Paul when they Gloria Oct 2015 #85